[albie]

ALex just coudln't deal with the house. End of. A bit of tongue wagging/kisses from Perez would not force anyone out. Get with the program. Perez was not that bad in the house.

[Niamh.]

Well, from what happened after he left, i think it's fair to say Alex was probably on edge for different reasons

[ebandit]

man sitting on cliff edge............push

while their position was hazardous it was still the push that did it

Mark L

[Vanessa]

Originally Posted by Niamh.

Well, from what happened after he left, i think it's fair to say Alex was probably on edge for different reasons

Yes and no one picked up on it, apart from Perez.

[Niamh.]

Originally Posted by Vanessa

Yes and no one picked up on it, apart from Perez.

Going into CBB was a bad choice for Alex anyway if he was that fragile. You are going to get stressed out and annoyed in there, it isn't a holiday camp. I wish him the best with his recovery though and hope that he takes proper responsibility for his relapse

[Vanessa]

Originally Posted by Niamh.

Going into CBB was a bad choice for Alex anyway if he was that fragile. You are going to get stressed out and annoyed in there, it isn't a holiday camp. I wish him the best with his recovery though and hope that he takes proper responsibility for his relapse

I agree. Recovering addicts should not be on BB. It's a pressured environment.

[MTVN]

Originally Posted by Vanessa

Yes and no one picked up on it, apart from Perez.

Well if Perez did know that Alexander wasn't in a good place then it makes it worse that he was deliberately trying to wind him up

[Glenn.]

Originally Posted by MTVN

Well if Perez did know that Alexander wasn't in a good place then it makes it worse that he was deliberately trying to wind him up

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[Vanessa]

Originally Posted by MTVN

Well if Perez did know that Alexander wasn't in a good place then it makes it worse that he was deliberately trying to wind him up

It wasn't deliberate. That night he asked BB to open the door for ages, but they ignored him. He explained he was coughing near the door to wake people up, so that BB would open the door.

[MTVN]

Originally Posted by Vanessa

It wasn't deliberate. That night he asked BB to open the door for ages, but they ignored him. He explained he was coughing near the door to wake people up, so that BB would open the door.

Sorry I don't buy that, and even if its true its still very selfish imo the way he stood directly over Alexander's bed doing it and carried on even as Alex woke up and told him to move. It wasn't just that either, he also stood there blowing kisses at him and would follow him around when Alexander tried to move away from him.

[Vanessa]

Originally Posted by MTVN

Sorry I don't buy that, and even if its true its still very selfish imo the way he stood directly over Alexander's bed doing it and carried on even as Alex woke up and told him to move. It wasn't just that either, he also stood there blowing kisses at him and would follow him around when Alexander tried to move away from him.

Alex bed was near the door. Perez never targeted him on purpose. Alex also taunted Perez a lot.

[MTVN]

Originally Posted by Vanessa

Alex bed was near the door. Perez never targeted him on purpose. Alex also taunted Perez a lot.

Still don't buy it but either way its selfish, Perez's needs and well being do not come above those of the others though I'm not surprised he was happy to screw his housemates over to get what he wants from BB, he did it all series

[muchadoaboutnothing]

Originally Posted by Vanessa

Alex bed was near the door. Perez never targeted him on purpose. Alex also taunted Perez a lot.

I'm glad you mentioned that Vanessa. I recall (in the highlights I think) where Alex taunted and teased, even goading, Perez when he (Perez) was locked in that cage, and I'm sure this was seen by Nadia and Alicia. So when Hopkins (in the kitchen area) was asking Perez for an apolog in relation to Alexanders exit, Nadia and Alica made a reference to how Alex was not as innocent as Hopkins was making him out to be. Hence Kav trying to push Nadia to explain why Perez shouldn't apologise but Nadia said she wasn't going to say anything as Alex was no longer in the house, Alicia agreed with her.

[Caballo]

Originally Posted by Vanessa

It wasn't deliberate. That night he asked BB to open the door for ages, but they ignored him. He explained he was coughing near the door to wake people up, so that BB would open the door.

Errrrrrrrrrrr ok!

[Vanessa]

Originally Posted by muchadoaboutnothing

I'm glad you mentioned that Vanessa. I recall (in the highlights I think) where Alex taunted and teased, even goading, Perez when he (Perez) was locked in that cage, and I'm sure this was seen by Nadia and Alicia. So when Hopkins (in the kitchen area) was asking Perez for an apolog in relation to Alexanders exit, Nadia and Alica made a reference to how Alex was not as innocent as Hopkins was making him out to be. Hence Kav trying to push Nadia to explain why Perez shouldn't apologise but Nadia said she wasn't going to say anything as Alex was no longer in the house, Alicia agreed with her.

[Niamh.]

Originally Posted by muchadoaboutnothing

I'm glad you mentioned that Vanessa. I recall (in the highlights I think) where Alex taunted and teased, even goading, Perez when he (Perez) was locked in that cage, and I'm sure this was seen by Nadia and Alicia. So when Hopkins (in the kitchen area) was asking Perez for an apolog in relation to Alexanders exit, Nadia and Alica made a reference to how Alex was not as innocent as Hopkins was making him out to be. Hence Kav trying to push Nadia to explain why Perez shouldn't apologise but Nadia said she wasn't going to say anything as Alex was no longer in the house, Alicia agreed with her.

yep

[MTVN]

Alex's taunting was reactionary though, he was imitating Perez's behaviour towards him by blowing kisses at him in that cage

[Kazanne]

Originally Posted by MTVN

Well if Perez did know that Alexander wasn't in a good place then it makes it worse that he was deliberately trying to wind him up

Spot on.

[Niamh.]

Originally Posted by MTVN

Alex's taunting was reactionary though, he was imitating Perez's behaviour towards him by blowing kisses at him in that cage

From what we saw, it seemed like Perez really liked Alex at the start, then Alex decided to berate him a few times about being an attention seeker etc, I believe it was Alex who started the Feud they had

[Kazanne]

Originally Posted by Caballo

Errrrrrrrrrrr ok!

Most of us know it was deliberate.

[bitontheslide]

Amazing how short some peoples memories can be

Perez behaved disgustingly to Alex, it was obscene the way he hounded and goaded him, no other word for it. Perez was an unpleasant man, all this talk of him being funny or entertaining is just complete bollocks.

[joeysteele]

I never thought Perez got Alexander out, he riled him no doubt at times but Alexander was also peeved with others too, namely Ken who had used the word negro.

Alexander,if he didn't want to go out, I doubt anyone could have made him or set it up,Alexander had people he could talk to in there and did so, therefore had a 'protective' base.

Alexander had been saying he wanted out after only the 3rd day,I think he had many reasons why he didn't want to be there and I also think right from the start, he was likely wishing he hadn't agreed to it.

He left of his own accord for in my view, other reasons,probably nothing to do with any of the housemates.
Housemates have had to put up with far worse than he had to, even in the usual BB series.
For instance Aaron had Jay and the wolf pack or whatever it was called, always on his back, getting at him and on a daily basis too.
He just got on with it,stuck with it and he wasn't that used to high public life like Alexander is.

[arista]

Originally Posted by albie

ALex just coudln't deal with the house. End of. A bit of tongue wagging/kisses from Perez would not force anyone out. Get with the program. Perez was not that bad in the house.

But he mad Alex call him a *********


Perez was pissing Alex off
so many of us would say no Perez
Alex would have stayed.

[Niamh.]

Originally Posted by arista

But he mad Alex call him a *********


Perez was pissing Alex off
so many of us would say no Perez
Alex would have stayed.

He made Alex call him a ******t?? He's the only one responsible for his mouth and what comes out of it

[Liam-]

He didn't actually call him a ****** though