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Old 29-03-2015, 01:13 PM #1
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Default Labour's Lucy Powell Loses Her Cool

Just answer his questions
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she is not clear.

And Lucy he is nothing like Paxo

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She did very well and he is very much like paxo... he gave Ed a very unfair stuffing.
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She did very well and he is very much like paxo... he gave Ed a very unfair stuffing.
That is very true, and I think despite that Ed came out better than Cameron did.
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What a vile old hag calling out Andrew Neil saying he does not live in the real world and she does?

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It's ok to harangue some MPs and insist they give full and frank responses to all financial aspects of their policies... but ask IDS about welfare reforms and it's a different story. Funny that.
She is living in the real world, where is he getting those figures 50p tax rate could raise nothing?....

According to the IFS lowering from 50p to 40p lost 1 billion so why is it not safe to say that this wouldn't work in reverse? Now that the old measures of tax evasion/avoidance are being exposed and closed?

HMRC’s estimate of taxable income elasticity in line with IFS
estimate from 1980s and other estimates from academic literature
– Suggests cutting to 45p cost Ł100 million a year, and cutting back to
40p would cost about Ł1 billion a year

http://www.ifs.org.uk/budgets/budget...amesbrowne.pdf
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What a vile old hag calling out Andrew Neil saying he does not live in the real world and she does?

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Are we talking about her talking to Andrew Neill today, she never lost her cool at all, she was assertive and right in what she was saying and was not in any way losing her cool.

She was simply determined not to be sidetracked and got all the points she wanted to across, I am actually glad to see some politicians standing up more to interviewers who are often asking them stupid questions.
Andrew Neill to be fair however does go at all politicians and does balance it more fairly.

I was really impressed with her interview with him this morning, far better than the old pals act with the other Andrew, namely Marr and Ian Duncan Smith earlier in the day.

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Looking at the details, it appears that labour intend to raise around 1 billion through tax rises and the rest of the deficit will be handled by cuts. The potential tax raising revenue is trivial So, quite frankly, it doesn't bode well whoever gets in. The next 5 years are likely to be a lot harsher on everyone than the last 5 years.
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Are we talking about her talking to Andrew Neill today, she never lost her cool at all, she was assertive and right in what she was saying and was not in any way lsoing her cool.

She was simply determined not to be sidetracked and got all the points she wanted to across, I am actually glad to see some politicians standing up more to interviewers who are often asking them stupid questions.
Andrew Neill to be fair however does go at all politicians and does balance it more fairly.

I was really impressed with her interview with him this morning, far better than the old pals act with the other Andrew, namely Marr and Ian Duncan Smith earlier in the day.
telling Andrew Neill that he does not live in the real world and she does?



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telling Andrew Neill that he does not live in the real world and she does?



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For ages now I have thought from the ridiculous questioning at times that most current interviewers don't live in the real world.
Let's have some interviews done with questions asked by some ordinary charity organisation representative that have to pick up the pieces of what governments do across the board to people and their lives, then perhaps more relevant questions will get asked and interviews become more meaningful.
For me what she said was right and well done to her.

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Neil is a genius at scrutinising and punching holes through all parties claims, whether they're Tory, Labour, Lib Dem, Green, Ukip etc. etc. She did lose her cool a bit IMO in the face of informed and serious scruples over Labour policies. Politicians should expect no less.
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That is very true, and I think despite that Ed came out better than Cameron did.
ed came out as shallow as usual. tbe clown over saw a labout government that created a society in which the gap between rich and poor was bigger than for 200 years. whilst Cameron is a wolf., milibland is a wolf in sheeps clothing. all hes about is champagn socialism, cover ups, government waste, jobs for the boys. he even made a total mess fo the vat question. why too \if milibland was for the working classes did he not ask Cameron...WILL YOU BRING VAT DOWN? vat is an enslavement tax on the working classes
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ed came out as shallow as usual. tbe clown over saw a labout government that created a society in which the gap between rich and poor was bigger than for 200 years. whilst Cameron is a wolf., milibland is a wolf in sheeps clothing. all hes about is champagn socialism, cover ups, government waste, jobs for the boys. he even made a total mess fo the vat question. why too \if milibland was for the working classes did he not ask Cameron...WILL YOU BRING VAT DOWN? vat is an enslavement tax on the working classes
Well no one is likely ever going to bring vat down since it is one of the easiest and quickest ways of raising funds for the treasury.
The Labour party have not been a party that raises VAT however in govt;or even to extend it.
That has often been done by Conservative govts;

As for Ed Miliband overseeing the Labour govt; rather selective and unfair in my view.
He only became an MP in 2005,he wsn't there for nearly two thirds of its time in govt:

The only mess he made of the VAT question was to not follow it up with were the Conservatives planning to,if not to raise it,(which I still doubt and think they would),then were they planning to extend it to things currently free of VAT, like they did during this parliament.
I wonder what Cameron's answer would have been to that,if he even bothered to think about answering instead of going off on some other totally unrelated issue.

AS for covering up, he doesn't sound ike he is covering up things to me, he has said clearly he believes the Labour govt' was wrong not to regulated the Banks stronger, he stated very clearly in his interview, that Labour got immigration very wrong and he also stated the Iraq involvement was wrong to do too, especially with no plan for the consequences afterwards.
That is far from covering up, it ios refeshing to hear a leader say, this was wrong and that was wrong, and they were big issues he was saying were wrong too.

Ed Miliband would have been far from my choice as leader of the party but I was really impressed with his performance and I agree with the poll done in the days after the interviews, where those who saw the event, 49% felt he was honest in the interview to Cameron only being seen as to I think 28% honest.

Leaders of parties rarely, if ever, admit things were got wrong, he has said that as to 3 issues now and that is refreshing to hear, far from covering anything up, he is happy to acknowledge what was got wrong as well as praising what was done right.

The other thing I liked,was when he said he wanted to move Labour on from the 'new' Labour thing of Tony Blair.
Something else I agree with and again very honest of him too.

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Leaders of parties rarely, if ever, admit things were got wrong, he has said that as to 3 issues now and that is refreshing to hear, far from covering anything up, he is happy to acknowledge what was got wrong as well as praising what was done right.

Hmm, well he wasn't directly responsible for the previous labour governments, so its pretty easy to say they were wrong. It would be a different story entirely if we were reviewing his term in office.

I'm not a fan of any of the leaders of the parties at the moment, and they are all very mediocre in the general scheme of things. They don't have any fresh ideas, in fact, they really don't seem to have any ideas. Both the major parties are predicting that he deficit will be gone during the lifetime of the next government. They haven't a chance in hell of achieving that, so its impossible to take anything else they spout seriously
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another champagne socialist, who hates the working class, hates the st george flag,and thinks that being a patriot is racist, I do not want another socialist party, ruling us with an iron fist with left wing liberal dictatorship, to giving into a minority of thugs just for a vote,
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Hmm, well he wasn't directly responsible for the previous labour governments, so its pretty easy to say they were wrong. It would be a different story entirely if we were reviewing his term in office.

I'm not a fan of any of the leaders of the parties at the moment, and they are all very mediocre in the general scheme of things. They don't have any fresh ideas, in fact, they really don't seem to have any ideas. Both the major parties are predicting that he deficit will be gone during the lifetime of the next government. They haven't a chance in hell of achieving that, so its impossible to take anything else they spout seriously
I couldn't agree more as to the leaders of the parties being poor,particularly the main 3.
As to the deficit, this present govt; said it would be a disaster if it was not totally cleared by 2014/5 and that it would be under their policies.
Well it isn't,it is at best half gone, thanks to them manipualting how it is now measured as opposed to how the deficit was measured in 2010.

There is no disaster because it isn't either.

I see no need to rush to do so,it could have been chipped way at for 15 to 20 years if necessary,then sparing some of the severe cuts that were brought in by this govt;

The thing is however, the one fact is that one of the 2 leaders, Cameron or Miliband have to be PM after may 7th.
Of the choice I know who I would now prefer by miles too.
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