[Vicky.]

Originally Posted by LeatherTrumpet

DAVID Cameron has urged England’s xenophobes to focus on Scottish people.

In a St George’s Day message, the Tory leader said it was time for the country to put aside its ‘long and much-loved history of loathing the French and Germans’.

He added: “Recently we have seen marvellous new grudges spring up against the Romanians and Bulgarians, developing a whole range of racist stereotypes that barely existed three years ago.

“But don’t forget the Scots. These people – illegal immigrants in our country, give or take a few hundred years – want to steal our money and destroy our way of life.

“Let them be your scapegoat for the ills of the modern age, the demonic ‘other’ scampering around your brain as you pour your wisdom onto the internet.”

Xenophobe Martin Bishop said: “They speak English, sort of. Apart from that they’re basically Mexicans.”

Have a slight feeling this is a satire article

[LeatherTrumpet]

Originally Posted by Vicky.

Have a slight feeling this is a satire article

an element of

[LeatherTrumpet]

mind you that "joke" Cameron made about AS yesterday

[Kizzy]

I'd be more inclined to believe the mash to the mail

[MTVN]

[LeatherTrumpet]

Originally Posted by MTVN

Is that the same Fiscal Studies that failed to see the worlds largest recession coming?

[MTVN]

[joeysteele]

Originally Posted by MTVN

Well the BBC do set up the links so if they go off it must be more to do with them than at the other end.

Anyway,Labour MPs don't worry about being cut off, they just walk off if they don't want to continue,as Chukka Ummunah did with Dermot Murnaghan.

Chris leslie was at the time still doing, marginally only just, better than Gauke was.

The truth is it is a daft line of questioning,the voters are not getting the full details and none of them are going to eevr give the full answers before the elections is over.
That is why I am happy neither main party will get an overall majority,despite supprting strongly one of them.

The answers given now could likely be irrelevant if neither get an overall majority and are made to 'really' think again on some main issues.
That is the sad state of UK politics at this time.

I loved Andrew Neill's response however,especially when at the end, he said something like, 'well we are coming to the end of our time but it doesn't matter as I'm not getting anywhere'.

No one will either, this side of the election.

[MTVN]

Originally Posted by joeysteele

Well the BBC do set up the links so if they go off it must be more to do with them than at the other end.

Anyway,Labour MPs don't worry about being cut off, they just walk off if they don't want to continue,as Chukka Ummunah did with Dermot Murnaghan.

Chris leslie was at the time still doing, marginally only just, better than Gauke was.

The truth is it is a daft line of questioning,the voters are not getting the full details and none of them are going to eevr give the full answers before the elections is over.
That is why I am happy neither main party will get an overall majority,despite supprting strongly one of them.

The answers given now could likely be irrelevant if neither get an overall majority and are made to 'really' think again on some main issues.
That is the sad state of UK politics at this time.

I loved Andrew Neill's response however,especially when at the end, he said something like, 'well we are coming to the end of our time but it doesn't matter as I'm not getting anywhere'.

No one will either, this side of the election.

It's a shoddy situation for sure, the electorate has very little idea of the precise plans of every parties and none of them are being clear with their figures. It's little wonder that they all seem to crumble under pressure from Neil because none of the parties are willing to be clear about their claims.

[Kizzy]

All parties are being pressed for figures, except the conservatives who are allowed to continually pluck figures from the air without question.

[joeysteele]

Originally Posted by MTVN

It's a shoddy situation for sure, the electorate has very little idea of the precise plans of every parties and none of them are being clear with their figures. It's little wonder that they all seem to crumble under pressure from Neil because none of the parties are willing to be clear about their claims.

I think he just tries to get one of them to slip up and let something out, however I think this is how it will be to polling day now.
No voter being made any the wiser at all and that is really not a good thing.

I am personally not too bothered as to the cutting of the deficit as I am of the view it should be done more slowly so as to limit the amount of cuts needed to do so quicker.

I do however have to add, I think it really way out of order, to have announced 12 billion of cuts to welfare,only say where 2 billion will be made,then to add that they will not be touching pensions or pensioners extra's in anyway at all.
Which then only leaves jobseekers,which is a pittance anyway now and then the sick and disabled benefits that can be hit.
To leave those groups in people in limbo as to what they intend to do to their entitlements until after the election is over,I find that beyond belief.

[bitontheslide]

Originally Posted by MTVN

It's a shoddy situation for sure, the electorate has very little idea of the precise plans of every parties and none of them are being clear with their figures. It's little wonder that they all seem to crumble under pressure from Neil because none of the parties are willing to be clear about their claims.

The problem that the main 2 parties have is that if they told the truth about the scale of the cuts/tax rises required to remove the deficit in the time scale they have committed to, no sane person in the country would vote for them. So they then have a choice to live in la la land like some of the other parties or decline to go in to specifics. The reality is that the deficit will still be with us in 5 years time, as neither would dare do what's necessary. They have made a point this election about how dedicated they are to the economy, and to now say the deficit will still be here would make them look stupid.

[Jøsh]

I just heard E4 is closing on election day from 7am til 7pm.

[Kizzy]

[Livia]

Didn't see much of Gordon Brown defending his record five years ago. But then, it's hard to defend the indefensible.

[Kizzy]

Is this thread not for the discussion of the 2015 election?

[bitontheslide]

Originally Posted by Kizzy

Is this thread not for the discussion of the 2015 election?

[Kizzy]

touche

[Jarrod]

I would have voted for Plaidd - but I miss the voting by two weeks due to my birthday.

[MTVN]

Very cheap point scoring from Miliband today, not heard a peep from him about post-conflict planning and now suddenly he starts ranting about it 2 weeks before the election when the migrant drownings have just happened hmm. And this from the man who voted 4 times against an enquiry into the Iraq war...

Anyway the disaster of Libya was the decision to intervene in the first place not just what happened after, and that decision was fully supported by Labour at the time

[smudgie]

Originally Posted by MTVN

Very cheap point scoring from Miliband today, not heard a peep from him about post-conflict planning and now suddenly he starts ranting about it 2 weeks before the election when the migrant drownings have just happened hmm. And this from the man who voted 4 times against an enquiry into the Iraq war...

Anyway the disaster of Libya was the decision to intervene in the first place not just what happened after, and that decision was fully supported by Labour at the time

It looks like it has backfired on him, not a good word to be said for it on the daily politics today.

[Kizzy]

was the post conflict planning his remit..he supported the intervention but was the aftermath really in his control?
The tories wouldn't want an inquiry into the sinking of the Belgrano before the election either for some perspective.

[MTVN]

Originally Posted by Kizzy

was the post conflict planning his remit..he supported the intervention but was the aftermath really in his control?
The tories wouldn't want an inquiry into the sinking of the Belgrano before the election either for some perspective.

No but the issue more is for him to start lecturing on post-intervention planning 4 years after the intervention when until today he has not raised the issue in any meaningful way, it smacks of opportunism and point scoring, particularly given his own and his party's record in post-intervention planning in Iraq and Afghanistan

[arista]

Originally Posted by bitontheslide

Love the Scotty Dog

[Kizzy]

So what?... All the election is based on atm is point scoring. Boris the bumbler and mr Gray the adulterer making slur after slur as well as the PM insisting that labour and the SNP are 'pickpockets'.
He is as entitled to an opinion, as he wasn't personally responsible for those either.