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farcical

all she is doing is trying bit by bit to change - yes we are leaving to no we are not, to persuade a house that is remain
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all she is doing is trying bit by bit to change - yes we are leaving to no we are not, to persuade a house that is remain

Yes its all that Rich Women's fault
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The knives are out for May now from her own cabinet after today's performance

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-48366977

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The prime minister is facing growing calls to resign amid a backlash against her Brexit plan from Conservative MPs.

Several cabinet ministers have told the BBC that she cannot stay, with one saying it is "the end of the line".

Others, though, insist Theresa May should push on with her plan to put her Withdrawal Agreement Bill to a vote.

Mrs May's own MPs have been unhappy with the concessions she has set out in the bill, but she has called for "compromise on all sides".

The BBC's political editor says Home Secretary Sajid Javid has asked to see the PM to push her to remove the second referendum vote requirement contained in the Withdrawal Agreement Bill.

Foreign Secretary Jeremy Hunt has also requested a private meeting with the PM.

Both men are seen as possible contenders to be the next Conservative leader.

Laura Kuenssberg also said the so-called "Pizza Club" of Brexiteer cabinet members met while Mrs May was answering questions in the House earlier - a move she described as "a bad omen for the PM".
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it's called democracy Arista and rule of law upheld by the courts
law of the land as you're so fond of saying
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One of the bonuses of the Hard No Deal Brexit we are now going to have by default is more jobs for British workers

The withdrawal agreement which will never ever get through the House of Commons, thanks to the Real Brexit Party voting it down, alternatively known as the Labour Party, has the rights for EU nationals. When we crash out with No Deal, AS WE ARE GOING TO DO, the EU nationals will no longer have the right to work in this country and all employers will have to dismiss them on the spot with no recompense.

This means that all their jobs will go to British workers.

So thanks to the Real Brexit, sorry Labour Party and Jeremy Corbyn it will be as a neighbour of mine, who supports No Deal for this reason, British Jobs for British workers ONLY!!!

I also suspect he means Whites only as well from some of the things he said, my neighbour that is
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More of Project fear on industrial strength steroids!!!!

When we leave on No Deal under Prime Minister Boris, we will have Ł350 a week for the NHS, this has been proved true and it would not have been put on that bus if it we not so, but the evil experts have hidden it from Google!!!

When we leave on no deal, all the EU nationals will have no right to work, and will have to be sacked with no redundancy and then all their jobs will be snapped up by proper British workers, and we no what we mean by "Proper British" don't we - We mean Whites only, because that's what we voted for on 23 June 2016


Well that's what some leavers I have spoken to would have us believe. I have a neighbour who believes all immigrants and black people come to take our benefits and mug our "white" pensioners. He was quite vociferous about it, British jobs for British workers, and by his tone of voice he meant white British.

This is what that first referendum did to our country, it has legitimised racism and yet Leave voters refuse to countenance that. I know this to be true, as on Saturday 25 June 2016 I was at the opening of Vicolo a new coffee shop attached to Tyneside Cinema, when the EDL came marching right passed our alley way in a victory march and then held a rally at the Monument.
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More of Project fear on industrial strength steroids!!!!

When we leave on No Deal under Prime Minister Boris, we will have Ł350 a week for the NHS, this has been proved true and it would not have been put on that bus if it we not so, but the evil experts have hidden it from Google!!!

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Well that's what some leavers I have spoken to would have us believe. I have a neighbour who believes all immigrants and black people come to take our benefits and mug our "white" pensioners. He was quite vociferous about it, British jobs for British workers, and by his tone of voice he meant white British.

This is what that first referendum did to our country, it has legitimised racism and yet Leave voters refuse to countenance that. I know this to be true, as on Saturday 25 June 2016 I was at the opening of Vicolo a new coffee shop attached to Tyneside Cinema, when the EDL came marching right passed our alley way in a victory march and then held a rally at the Monument.
When did the EDL become the face of wanting to leave the EU?

Another snob calling everybody who wants to be an independent country, a racist.
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...excellent videos, Girth.....I’ve only watched two of them so far...just to echo Sticks’ words...I recall just after the EU referendum, I was chatting with an elderly lady in the village I used to live in...she had proudly voted OUT because it was apparently becoming impossible to get a medical appointment at her surgery as the pesky immigrants were prone to taking all of the appointments and this was becoming a real issue especially for elderly people like her...as well as for OUR CHILDREN ...anyways i was obviously curious about this so our conversation grew as I questioned some specific stuff...and the conclusion was that in all of her medical appointments and time spent in the surgery waiting room..?...she had never once seen what she felt could possibly be an immigrant, pesky or otherwise...that also fits with one of the vids of areas of low multi cultural population being some of the more anti immigration, having not actually experienced the positivities of multi culture..?...


...anyways...all very depressing, this unstoppable train we seem to be on with nothing positive to vote for and the popular vote being fear......
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I was walking to the shop one day and I saw millions of remoaners beating up people of colour, just because they were people of colour.

Are you calling me a liar?
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When did the EDL become the face of wanting to leave the EU?

Another snob calling everybody who wants to be an independent country, a racist.
I was there when the EDL had their victory march.

It was not a prearranged EDL march, it was a victory march because of the leave vote
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It was not a prearranged EDL march, it was a victory march because of the leave vote
What percent of the country are EDL?
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Does that matter, the EDL saw the referendum one on race and immigration, and so did many others, including the neighbour I referred to earlier

All thanks to Nigel Farage, who was effectively branded a racist by Allen Sked, the real founder of UKIP in a 2014 article in the Guardian.
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Does that matter, the EDL saw the referendum one on race and immigration, and so did many others, including the neighbour I referred to earlier

All thanks to Nigel Farage, who was effectively branded a racist by Allen Sked, the real founder of UKIP in a 2014 article in the Guardian.
I don't believe anybody viewed the referendum on race, and what is wrong with viewing it on immigration?
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...excellent videos, Girth.....I’ve only watched two of them so far...just to echo Sticks’ words...I recall just after the EU referendum, I was chatting with an elderly lady in the village I used to live in...she had proudly voted OUT because it was apparently becoming impossible to get a medical appointment at her surgery as the pesky immigrants were prone to taking all of the appointments and this was becoming a real issue especially for elderly people like her...as well as for OUR CHILDREN ...anyways i was obviously curious about this so our conversation grew as I questioned some specific stuff...and the conclusion was that in all of her medical appointments and time spent in the surgery waiting room..?...she had never once seen what she felt could possibly be an immigrant, pesky or otherwise...that also fits with one of the vids of areas of low multi cultural population being some of the more anti immigration, having not actually experienced the positivities of multi culture..?...


...anyways...all very depressing, this unstoppable train we seem to be on with nothing positive to vote for and the popular vote being fear......

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err no Boris, its far from clear given there was only one Brexit party (not counting Ukip as they guy didnt even turn up for his own count ) and many parties that supported remain
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Well that's what some leavers I have spoken to would have us believe. I have a neighbour who believes all immigrants and black people come to take our benefits and mug our "white" pensioners. He was quite vociferous about it, British jobs for British workers, and by his tone of voice he meant white British.

This is what that first referendum did to our country, it has legitimised racism and yet Leave voters refuse to countenance that. I know this to be true, as on Saturday 25 June 2016 I was at the opening of Vicolo a new coffee shop attached to Tyneside Cinema, when the EDL came marching right passed our alley way in a victory march and then held a rally at the Monument.
Yup. A fair few I know have started being openly racist, instead of 'hiding it' as they did before, its depressing as **** how many 'friends' have turned out to be utter tosspots and did basically see the vote as 'well more than half the country hates immigrants too..ha'

Of course not all leavers are racist, and there are legitimate reasons for the vote. But sadly, it seems a hell of a lot voted because 'immimgrants'..and even think that a deal is possible where we keep free trade but rid the country of immigrants and basically say 'no, we are closed'. Meanwhile British people should of course be able to emmigrate elsewhere.

I actually know a few older people who are exactly the same as Ammis example. Also about doctors appointments they cannot get because immigrants, yet will admit they have never seen anyone they would class as 'an immigrant' (read, person who is not white) in the waiting room, so it makes no sense at all to say you can't get an appointment because the immigrants are taking over. Yet, they stick to that belief..

I know one who thinks her pension will be taken from her because so many immigrants are arriving from Syria (so..refugees instead.. not that that these people seem to recognise the difference) and getting benefits so the country cannot afford pensions anymore. Quite where she got that from, **** knows.

The immigrants situation is odd because basicaslly, they are taking all our jobs, while simultaneously coming here specifically to not work and claim benefits. It simply can't be both. But it is apparently..

I thought you were a 'no dealer' sticks? Unless you are one of the 'few' who voted leave, want no deal but can still call out the obvious racism in a lot of voters I guess.
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Alf how did Tommy do? Could you bring us up to date?
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