[Vanessa]

Originally Posted by y.winter

Maybe I got it wrong from his VT, but I find Cristian a bit of a vain "lad". I don't know, I don't really like the guy at the moment...

Aaron seems like that to me and i didn't like the name dropping. Christian seems like a nice lad so far. Of course it's still early days.

[andybigbro]

Originally Posted by Niamh.

I was just kidding btw But why is it unlikely?

I think it's unlikely because of they're appearances. Which is wrong I know but most guys that look like Cristian are typically going to be friends with "lads" rather a guy that's overweight.

For instance I could see Danny and Cristian being a more obvious friendship than Cristian and Jack.

But who knows they could have a lot in common.

[Vanessa]

Originally Posted by andybigbro

I think it's unlikely because of they're appearances. Which is wrong I know but most guys that look like Cristian are typically going to be friends with "lads" rather a guy that's overweight.

But who knows they could have a lot in common.

Their personalities seem very different. Jack is quite outgoing, while Chrstian seems more shy and reserved to me.

[Niamh.]

Originally Posted by andybigbro

I think it's unlikely because of they're appearances. Which is wrong I know but most guys that look like Cristian are typically going to be friends with "lads" rather a guy that's overweight.

For instance I could see Danny and Cristian being a more obvious friendship than Cristian and Jack.

But who knows they could have a lot in common.

Do you think so? ah people don't make friends based on looks, do they? I don't know about that at all

[andybigbro]

Originally Posted by Niamh.

Do you think so? ah people don't make friends based on looks, do they? I don't know about that at all

Sometimes they do! I mean I wouldn't but you typically see a group of "lads" out all primed with their hair and clothes. They don't take out an overweight guy to the clubs.

Take last years BB. Winston and Ash bonded from the get go!

[Pete.]

Boremance?

[Fetch The Bolt Cutters]

christian probably latching on to the runt of the litter to be seen as a nice guy

[Ammi]

Originally Posted by andybigbro

Sometimes they do! I mean I wouldn't but you typically see a group of "lads" out all primed with their hair and clothes. They don't take out an overweight guy to the clubs.

Take last years BB. Winston and Ash bonded from the get go!

..so would you say..(and this is just a general question..)..is it more allowed to judge house-mates/what we think they're like as people on their physical appearance if they're more stereotypically 'pretty' perceived as good looking but less acceptable to judge them on appearance if they're not deemed so physically attractive... it's just interesting...

[andybigbro]

Originally Posted by Ammi

..so would you say..(and this is just a general question..)..is it more allowed to judge house-mates/what we think they're like as people on their physical appearance if they're more stereotypically 'pretty' perceived as good looking but less acceptable to judge them on appearance if they're not deemed so physically attractive... it's just interesting...

No I think it's equal. A good looking person is typically hated from the get go. A girl is called a slut a guy is called an arrogant prick. Whereas if they are deemed unattractive they are typically left until they are known more to be judged.

Having said that, those who are typically overweight usually get an initial "fave" reaction. For example Jack in this series, Wolfy in BB14, Laura BB8 etc

[con]

Originally Posted by andybigbro

Sometimes they do! I mean I wouldn't but you typically see a group of "lads" out all primed with their hair and clothes. They don't take out an overweight guy to the clubs.

Take last years BB. Winston and Ash bonded from the get go!

I don't get what you're trying to say at all?? I am a bit overweight ( am working on it) lol but I am one of ''the lads'' and I go to clubs. My friends are all different sizes and no one judges like you just described? Infact I can actually pull alot quicker than most of the lads as well.

[con]

Jack actually seems like one the most normal ''Lads'' in there from what I've seen so far.

[Vanessa]

Originally Posted by con

Jack actually seems like one the most normal ''Lads'' in there from what I've seen so far.

Yes, very likable. I'm glad he's friends with Christian.

[andybigbro]

Originally Posted by con

I don't get what you're trying to say at all?? I am a bit overweight ( am working on it) lol but I am one of ''the lads'' and I go to clubs. My friends are all different sizes and no one judges like you just described? Infact I can actually pull alot quicker than most of the lads as well.

I'm not saying this is the case for most people. It's just what is stereotyped.

You tend to see a group of guys who are all into fitness who bond etc. it's happened in previous series such as Dale and Stuart (BB9) and Winston and Ash (BB15)

I'm not saying someone overweight cannot be a "lad". I'm just saying I thought it would be an unlikely friendship because of previous series.

[DrunkerThanMoses]

How does this mean they are forming a friendship? They are in the pool. So if the twins and Sarah did the washing up together would we automatically say they are bonding and this is the friendship of the series?

[Ammi]

Originally Posted by andybigbro

No I think it's equal. A good looking person is typically hated from the get go. A girl is called a slut a guy is called an arrogant prick. Whereas if they are deemed unattractive they are typically left until they are known more to be judged.

Having said that, those who are typically overweight usually get an initial "fave" reaction. For example Jack in this series, Wolfy in BB14, Laura BB8 etc

..yeah I understand what you're saying that either way there would be criticism of some type also to the person who criticised even if it was about that housemate's character..oh you're just jealous/you don't like them because they're attractive or...you only like the attractive ones so that's why you don't like them/type thing...I'm not sure about the instant fave reaction bit though because I think that can also work the same either way as well ...oh she/he's hot, I like them...

[andybigbro]

Originally Posted by DrunkerThanMoses

How does this mean they are forming a friendship? They are in the pool. So if the twins and Sarah did the washing up together would we automatically say they are bonding and this is the friendship of the series?

It's just speculation. But yeah there are bonding of course they are! You have to at this stage.

[andybigbro]

Originally Posted by Ammi

..yeah I understand what you're saying that either way there would be criticism of some type also to the person who criticised even if it was about that housemate's character..oh you're just jealous/you don't like them because they're attractive or...you only like the attractive ones so that's why you don't like them/type thing...I'm not sure about the instant fave reaction bit though because I think that can also work the same either way as well ...oh she/he's hot, I like them...

Yeah that's true. However, the instant fave thing was referring to majority. It appears those "bigger" have an easier time getting a majority of the initial fave reaction.

[con]

Originally Posted by andybigbro

I'm not saying this is the case for most people. It's just what is stereotyped.

You tend to see a group of guys who are all into fitness who bond etc. it's happened in previous series such as Dale and Stuart (BB9) and Winston and Ash (BB15)

I'm not saying someone overweight cannot be a "lad". I'm just saying I thought it would be an unfriendly friendship because of previous series.

That makes a bit more sense,

[Vanessa]

Originally Posted by andybigbro

Yeah that's true. However, the instant fave thing was referring to majority. It appears those "bigger" have an easier time getting a majority of the initial fave reaction.

True, but it's not always a good thing. Initial favourites rarely win, i think. But he will do well.

[waterhog]

Originally Posted by Vanessa

I love friendships in the House.

me to - and we must remember the pure boredom in the house. they have no music no tv or anything. so it falses you to either get on with your HM or take the argumentative road.

i think its a much better bath to be easy going and get on with everyone.

the question is - is there anyone in this house that just can not get on with anyone no matter what ?

[andybigbro]

Originally Posted by con

That makes a bit more sense,

Thanks! I'm sorry I realised my post came across quite ignorant at first but that wasn't the point I was trying to make!

[Vanessa]

Originally Posted by waterhog

me to - and we must remember the pure boredom in the house. they have no music no tv or anything. so it falses you to either get on with your HM or take the argumentative road.

i think its a much better bath to be easy going and get on with everyone.

the question is - is there anyone in this house that just can not get on with anyone no matter what ?

So fari don't think so, but it's too early too tell. Usually even the hated ones have friends in there.

[Ammi]

Originally Posted by andybigbro

Yeah that's true. However, the instant fave thing was referring to majority. It appears those "bigger" have an easier time getting a majority of the initial fave reaction.

...maybe that's because it's more the way now that we have more 'model'/'celeb' types so it's refreshing when it's someone more 'general public'..that's just on first impressions because we haven't got to know their characters yet, so there is not so much to discuss with that..

[Ammi]

Originally Posted by andybigbro

I'm not saying this is the case for most people. It's just what is stereotyped.

You tend to see a group of guys who are all into fitness who bond etc. it's happened in previous series such as Dale and Stuart (BB9) and Winston and Ash (BB15)

I'm not saying someone overweight cannot be a "lad". I'm just saying I thought it would be an unlikely friendship because of previous series.

....so it's less to do with physical appearances and more having a general common interest in terms of something like body building etc...

[andybigbro]

Originally Posted by Ammi

...maybe that's because it's more the way now that we have more 'model'/'celeb' types so it's refreshing when it's someone more 'general public'..that's just on first impressions because we haven't got to know their characters yet, so there is not so much to discuss with that..

No I agree! I often see myself finding the "bigger" housemates funny! Which again is a stereotype that big people are full of laughter.

First impressions can either be soon on, but they can also be completely wrong! And I think that is why it is so great that you get to see characters develop on this show. That's why I love Big Brother