[just thinkin]

he has turned into an idiot - voting him into the bunker has gone to his head. he now thinks everybody loves him - and his vendetta against harry in the bunker was awful. More awful was the way she got treated when they went into the house - gang mentality. Why would you do that to a person. Felt so bad for her. If he doesn't cop on he's going to be sorry.

[Vicky.]

What do you mean the way she was treated? I saw her refuse to welcome the newbies..thats it? I don't blame her as I wouldn't have been all hugs and kisses but it (again) was her who chose to isolate herself...

Also Marc seems no different to how he has ALWAYS been?

[just thinkin]

don't agree there. the girl was slated from the diary room - she was probably in shock first at seeing them in the diary room and then the vile that came out about her. Marc and his clique completely ignored her and the others ran to lick ass... not a way to isolate and treat any person......remember the comment from marc in the diary room about when sam said simon felt isolated -he said.....WHY DON'T YOU SUPPORT HIM THEN.....marq is beginning to get kicked off the pedestal. you do not do that to a person no matter how your personalities clash.

[RodHull]

Originally Posted by just thinkin

don't agree there. the girl was slated from the diary room - she was probably in shock first at seeing them in the diary room and then the vile that came out about her. Marc and his clique completely ignored her and the others ran to lick ass... not a way to isolate and treat any person......remember the comment from marc in the diary room about when sam said simon felt isolated -he said.....WHY DON'T YOU SUPPORT HIM THEN.....marq is beginning to get kicked off the pedestal. you do not do that to a person no matter how your personalities clash.

She stood there and made no effort to go over, its a game show at the end of the day she could have just milled around with her 'mates' who had no reason NOT to go over.

No no Harry is ruthless she has no mates or friends in there she knows exactly what shes doing, this is a girl who went from being homeless to where she is now shes a survivor I dont believe for one millisecond a man like Marc or woman like Helen intimidate her at all. It suits her to play the victim. Its her schtick since the tits and fanny thing got old...

[jennyjuniper]

Originally Posted by just thinkin

he has turned into an idiot - voting him into the bunker has gone to his head. he now thinks everybody loves him - and his vendetta against harry in the bunker was awful. More awful was the way she got treated when they went into the house - gang mentality. Why would you do that to a person. Felt so bad for her. If he doesn't cop on he's going to be sorry.

This gang mentality you are so angry about is exactly what Harry and her cronies were up to with Simon. Harry tried to pretend she was frightened of Marc to turn the other housemates against him and then as soon as he left the house she and the others turned the 'gang mentality' on Simon.
She is a user, not just with Nick, who incidentally should grow some balls, but with the other housemates as well and they are too thick to realise that they are being played.

[rusticgal]

They shouldn't have let Helen make the announcement. The others would have kept it brief. Helen just couldn't stop all the bile coming out her mouth...because she's a nasty bitch and was in her element. Had I been one of the others I would have felt really uncomfortable as it went on and on...it wasn't a nomination it was an attack....Helens good at that when it's not face to face..


....and I don't even like Harry.

[Ellen]

Originally Posted by rusticgal

They shouldn't have let Helen make the announcement. The others would have kept it brief. Helen just couldn't stop all the bile coming out her mouth...because she's a nasty bitch and was in her element. Had I been one of the others I would have felt really uncomfortable as it went on and on...it wasn't a nomination it was an attack....Helens good at that when it's not face to face..


....and I don't even like Harry.

Disagree, the only one who probably would have shortened it would have been Brian.

[Vicky.]

Originally Posted by rusticgal

They shouldn't have let Helen make the announcement. The others would have kept it brief. Helen just couldn't stop all the bile coming out her mouth...because she's a nasty bitch and was in her element. Had I been one of the others I would have felt really uncomfortable as it went on and on...it wasn't a nomination it was an attack....Helens good at that when it's not face to face..


....and I don't even like Harry.

Only Brian would have IMO.

And BB purposely asked Helen as they KNEW she would be the harshest of them all I expect them to ask Nikki when it comes to Jacks turn...

[just thinkin]

Originally Posted by jennyjuniper

This gang mentality you are so angry about is exactly what Harry and her cronies were up to with Simon. Harry tried to pretend she was frightened of Marc to turn the other housemates against him and then as soon as he left the house she and the others turned the 'gang mentality' on Simon.
She is a user, not just with Nick, who incidentally should grow some balls, but with the other housemates as well and they are too thick to realise that they are being played.

i thought that was Sam....not harry. I am not a fan of harry but what happened on tv last night was disgusting...marq should be ashamed of himself. I don't get this 'user' bit either. Nick is just as much of a user, but he's more slimy about it. Let's not fall for the 'poor nick' line - he's not as dumb as he's making out. He's playing a good game that guy and you are all falling for it.

[Vicky.]

Originally Posted by just thinkin

i thought that was Sam....not harry. I am not a fan of harry but what happened on tv last night was disgusting...marq should be ashamed of himself. I don't get this 'user' bit either. Nick is just as much of a user, but he's more slimy about it. Let's not fall for the 'poor nick' line - he's not as dumb as he's making out. He's playing a good game that guy and you are all falling for it.

Why Marc only? As I understand, noone stayed with her when she decided to sit alone

[chuff me dizzy]

The guests have been watching the show before they went in,Marc hasn't made them hate Harry,she's down that all on her own

[Pete.]

He clearly didn't watch the show last year and therefore does not know how poisonous Hellen is. If he knew he would not have got close to her

[Vicky.]

Originally Posted by Petemitch

He clearly didn't watch the show last year and therefore does not know how poisonous Hellen is. If he knew he would not have got close to her

I think he did, as he said to her (once he clicked on who she was) that she was a **** but he loved her. It took her to say 'I won last year;' for him to realize who she was mind

I think honesty is important to Marc..and while Helen IS a nasty bitch, noone can say she is not honest. If only she had some sort of filter for quite how far she goes with her honesty, then it would be an admirable quality really...

[Pete.]

Originally Posted by Vicky.

I think he did, as he said to her (once he clicked on who she was) that she was a **** but he loved her. It took her to say 'I won last year;' for him to realize who she was mind

I think honesty is important to Marc..and while Helen IS a nasty bitch, noone can say she is not honest. If only she had some sort of filter for quite how far she goes with her honesty, then it would be an admirable quality really...

But he asked what Brian and Helen's names were?

[Vicky.]

Originally Posted by Petemitch

But he asked what Brian and Helen's names were?

A bit later than that...when she said she won last year, it seemed to click

[MrWong]

Here for Helen dragging Marc into the gutter.

[Pete.]

Originally Posted by MrWong

Here for Helen dragging Marc into the gutter.

Never ever going to happen, Helen never turns on her allies

[just thinkin]

Originally Posted by chuff me dizzy

The guests have been watching the show before they went in,Marc hasn't made them hate Harry,she's down that all on her own

yes they had...and helen said she liked Harry when she came in.... i rest my case.

[Macie Lightfoot]

Originally Posted by Vicky.

I think honesty is important to Marc..and while Helen IS a nasty bitch, noone can say she is not honest.

umm did we all forget when she heard Ashleigh and Chris praising her and then ran around the house and confronted them for slagging her off? What a truth teller

[Vicky.]

Originally Posted by Macie Lightfoot

umm did we all forget when she heard Ashleigh and Chris praising her and then ran around the house and confronted them for slagging her off? What a truth teller

Yup..I did forget that. Infact I forgot it so much I still dont remember it now

[Macie Lightfoot]

She overheard Ashleigh and Chris talk about how they were initially afraid of Helen but actually like her now, and then Helen ran to Ash and Winston and Mark and went off about how they were talking **** about her (which they weren't), and then confronted them about it.

Being loud and abrasive gives off the impression that Helen is Honest and Real, but she often only speaks half-truths, the validity of which can't be challenged because she'll just shout WELL THAT'S WHAT I HEARD or THAT'S HOW I FEEL.

[MrWong]

Originally Posted by Petemitch

Never ever going to happen, Helen never turns on her allies

That's not what I mean't.

Helen's a nasty cow and if Marc carries on blowing smoke up her arse and being all buddy buddy, it could affect his popularity.

[sosadbbend]

Originally Posted by RodHull

She stood there and made no effort to go over, its a game show at the end of the day she could have just milled around with her 'mates' who had no reason NOT to go over.

No no Harry is ruthless she has no mates or friends in there she knows exactly what shes doing, this is a girl who went from being homeless to where she is now shes a survivor I dont believe for one millisecond a man like Marc or woman like Helen intimidate her at all. It suits her to play the victim. Its her schtick since the tits and fanny thing got old...

Good for her! No false pretenses (like everyone else)

[Withano]

If Marc fans are still Marc fans after all the disgusting things that he's said, I don't think his popularity will decrease as quick as his time in the bunker, unfortunately

[Robodog]

Marc is still the only genuinely entertaining HM in there.

The others have all really run out of steam.

Think of them all, one by one.. They all seem really flat.

The house without Marc would be a very dry TV show indeed.