[LeatherTrumpet]

Originally Posted by armand.kay

**** i hope he has many years prison rape and attacks ahead of him

No if that state does sadly not have the death pen then he will be protected and lauded by the Ayran Brotherhood

[Toy Soldier]

Originally Posted by LeatherTrumpet

No if that state does sadly not have the death pen then he will be protected and lauded by the Ayran Brotherhood

Until he befriends a black inmate whilst working in the laundry room, and over the years of his incarceration they develop a strong bond that causes him to see the horrible errors in who he was before. Being truly repentant, he'll be released, only to find out that - tragically - his previously intelligent and sensitive younger brother has been gripped by the hatred and intolerance that once infected his heart.

[Ithinkiloveyoutoo]

"I cannot believe how hard people are working to discount it"..I know bae...I know

Youtube video

https://www.youtube.com/watch?t=228&v=SaW47WxcwPQ

[Ithinkiloveyoutoo]

Originally Posted by Samuel.

Actually, finding the cause is absolutely important to attempting to prevent these horrific events from happening.

He's wearing the cause and pretty much recited his reason for doing what he did. End of story.

Racism. End of.

[Ithinkiloveyoutoo]

Originally Posted by Samuel.

Well yeah I think it's a fair assumption that someone committing a massacre has mental issues...

Then so do all muslims you all so quickly call terrorist. Every race is a terrorist except when white people do it there MUST be some mental issues there. Sigh supremacy is still so real.

White people don't have some sort of special brain. If A muslim can be called just pure evil for commiting a disgusting act, then so can white people. Evil is evil. I know people with mental illness but none of them go on a rampage.

He sat with them for an hour before acting. Cold and calculated. Enough with the mental illness bull. There's a lot of them out there they're not all mentally ill.

[LeatherTrumpet]

Originally Posted by Ithinkiloveyoutoo

"I cannot believe how hard people are working to discount it"..I know bae...I know

Youtube video

https://www.youtube.com/watch?t=228&v=SaW47WxcwPQ

Noble words John but no solutions

Its easy to sit and identify problems and take the check


Lets see him do a show where he tells us what needs to be done and how he is going to do it...

[Samuel.]

Originally Posted by Ithinkiloveyoutoo

Then so do all muslims you all so quickly call terrorist. Every race is a terrorist except when white people do it there MUST be some mental issues there. Sigh supremacy is still so real.

White people don't have some sort of special brain. If A muslim can be called just pure evil for commiting a disgusting act, then so can white people. Evil is evil. I know people with mental illness but none of them go on a rampage.

He sat with them for an hour before acting. Cold and calculated. Enough with the mental illness bull. There's a lot of them out there they're not all mentally ill.

You all

What a ridiculous statement. I have never expressed those opinions.

You're looking at it the wrong way. If it is underlying racism, then it's muslims and black people that are being painted wrong in cases of criminal activity, not vice versa.

I know people without mental illness but none of them go on a rampage either. What's your point?

Something has clearly gone wrong somewhere, and simply labelling him as evil to explain it is only for convenience and a way of justifying his actions without having to believe that anybody and everybody could be capable of doing the exact same - that is something society is in denial about and it does no good in preventing these events from happening. In fact the further you push people out, the more likely they are to act out.

"Evil" really has no meaning. Are ISIS evil? Willing to bet the vast majority think they're doing the right thing, they certainly don't think of themselves as evil quite the opposite. It's a matter of perspective.

[armand.kay]

Originally Posted by Ithinkiloveyoutoo

I see they're already playing the mentally ill card. When they're white they're always mentally ill. Even before they caught this man today, even before they knew him, they were already going on about him being mentally ill.

This

[LeatherTrumpet]

Originally Posted by Ithinkiloveyoutoo

Then so do all muslims you all so quickly call terrorist. Every race is a terrorist except when white people do it there MUST be some mental issues there. Sigh supremacy is still so real.

White people don't have some sort of special brain. If A muslim can be called just pure evil for commiting a disgusting act, then so can white people. Evil is evil. I know people with mental illness but none of them go on a rampage.

He sat with them for an hour before acting. Cold and calculated. Enough with the mental illness bull. There's a lot of them out there they're not all mentally ill.

"Then so do all muslims you all so quickly call terrorist."


er what?

We call terrorists the ones who behead, burn and blow up people

rightly so, but who are we calling that are not?

[arista]

Originally Posted by Ithinkiloveyoutoo

"I cannot believe how hard people are working to discount it"..I know bae...I know

Youtube video

https://www.youtube.com/watch?t=228&v=SaW47WxcwPQ

http://www.huffingtonpost.co.uk/2015...tml?1434701209
Video NOT Blocked on this above private copy
Bang On Right John

[arista]

The Racist Killer
wants to Start a War of White Killing Blacks

His mates confirmed that.

Ref : CNN America & FoxNewsHD

[MTVN]

I do think there's a point to be made that when a white person commits ideological murder then it is all too easily dismissed as just mental illness - it's often happened whether it's this guy, Anders Breivik, David Copeland, Timothy McVeigh etc. Not many people would say that the Charlie Hebdo shooting was not a hate crime or not a terrorist attack because the killers were simply mentally ill people. Just as it is necessary to acknowledge the ideological element behind Islamic extremism so it is important to acknowledge this shooter's motivations. There is a broader conversation to be had here over the prevalence of racism and white supremacism. It absolutely is a hate crime.

[Niamh.]

Obama made a great speech about this and the need to change gun laws in the states. Pity he's not listened to

[MTVN]

^ I was surprised at how frank Obama was actually, American politicians would normally shy away from saying what he said. I suppose he can afford to be now his presidency is coming to an end. I think I saw somewhere that it was about the 14th time Obama has had to address the nation after a mass shooting. 14 times in 7 years.

[Niamh.]

Originally Posted by MTVN

^ I was surprised at how frank Obama was actually, American politicians would normally shy away from saying what he said. I suppose he can afford to be now his presidency is coming to an end. I think I saw somewhere that it was about the 14th time Obama has to address the nation regarding a mass shooting. 14 times in 7 years.

Wow that is shocking. It's a disgrace really that the laws aren't tightened up. Did I hear that this guy had gotten that gun as a birthday present just recently? Good on Obama though

[MTVN]

Originally Posted by Niamh.

Wow that is shocking. It's a disgrace really that the laws aren't tightened up. Did I hear that this guy had gotten that gun as a birthday present just recently? Good on Obama though

Yeah a present from his Dad I think :/

[Mokka]

Originally Posted by arista

http://www.huffingtonpost.co.uk/2015...tml?1434701209
Video NOT Blocked on this above private copy
Bang On Right John

Thank you for that link arista... What Jon said mirrors my sentiments to a T.... but I do have to say, that I am surprised you agree with him arista, because of many of your posts on here and threads you start. The inbreed racial hatred in the south, and in many other pockets of the US, that has never gone away has deep seeded routes in their police departments, and yet just because they are white men wearing badges, I have see you defend them time and time again.

[LeatherTrumpet]

Originally Posted by MTVN

^ I was surprised at how frank Obama was actually, American politicians would normally shy away from saying what he said. I suppose he can afford to be now his presidency is coming to an end. I think I saw somewhere that it was about the 14th time Obama has had to address the nation after a mass shooting. 14 times in 7 years.

He looked truly pissed off but resigned to the fact he can do zilch about it

[arista]

Originally Posted by Mokka

Thank you for that link arista... What Jon said mirrors my sentiments to a T.... but I do have to say, that I am surprised you agree with him arista, because of many of your posts on here and threads you start. The inbreed racial hatred in the south, and in many other pockets of the US, that has never gone away has deep seeded routes in their police departments, and yet just because they are white men wearing badges, I have see you defend them time and time again.

I follow him alot.
John talks Great Sense

Of course Viacom has stopped the UK having his show
which made me very angry

[Livia]

Originally Posted by LeatherTrumpet

No if that state does sadly not have the death pen then he will be protected and lauded by the Ayran Brotherhood

South Carolina has the death penalty, fortunately.

This is what happens when you have an archaic 'right to bear arms'. Every murderous, deranged psycho has the right to own a lethal weapon.

[Ithinkiloveyoutoo]

Originally Posted by LeatherTrumpet

"Then so do all muslims you all so quickly call terrorist."


er what?

We call terrorists the ones who behead, burn and blow up people

rightly so, but who are we calling that are not?

James Eagan Holmes is just one example of a man that was called anything but a terrorist.

[arista]

Originally Posted by Livia

South Carolina has the death penalty, fortunately.

This is what happens when you have an archaic 'right to bear arms'. Every murderous, deranged psycho has the right to own a lethal weapon.

yes Kill Him
is the Best

[Ithinkiloveyoutoo]

Originally Posted by Samuel.

You all

What a ridiculous statement. I have never expressed those opinions.

You're looking at it the wrong way. If it is underlying racism, then it's muslims and black people that are being painted wrong in cases of criminal activity, not vice versa.

I know people without mental illness but none of them go on a rampage either. What's your point?

Something has clearly gone wrong somewhere, and simply labelling him as evil to explain it is only for convenience and a way of justifying his actions without having to believe that anybody and everybody could be capable of doing the exact same - that is something society is in denial about and it does no good in preventing these events from happening. In fact the further you push people out, the more likely they are to act out.

"Evil" really has no meaning. Are ISIS evil? Willing to bet the vast majority think they're doing the right thing, they certainly don't think of themselves as evil quite the opposite. It's a matter of perspective.

That that is the reasoning they work hard to attach to white male terrorists.

"Something has clearly gone wrong somewhere, " Just listen to what he has said and what people that know him have said about his views on white and blacks and there lies the answer. He probably read several past stories on lynching blacks for inspiration.

""Evil" really has no meaning. Are ISIS evil? " yes!

[LeatherTrumpet]

Originally Posted by Ithinkiloveyoutoo

James Eagan Holmes is just one example of a man that was called anything but a terrorist.

he was a mass murderer with no cause but his own. Do you understand the difference between lone mass murderers and terrorists?

[Ithinkiloveyoutoo]

Originally Posted by LeatherTrumpet

he was a mass murderer with no cause but his own. Do you understand the difference between lone mass murderers and terrorists?

http://www.theguardian.com/commentis...rrorism-racism


Why don't Americans call mass shootings 'terrorism'? Racism

The refrain of denial – the urge to define white people’s terrorist acts as anything but – is an effort to protect the idea that you can be a racist and not kill people


When tragedies happen, it’s natural for people to come together in the spirit of protecting each other. So after the massacre at Emanuel African Methodist Episcopal Church in Charleston, South Carolina, people responded in an effort to make sense of seemingly nonsensical violence – to provide comfort in the midst of confusion.

But for some people, their attempt to make sense of violence was more about rejecting the blatantly obvious - that the shooter was a racist intent on perpetrating an act of terrorism - than it was to comfort a community in pain.

Despite the fact that Charleston Police Chief Greg Mullen said early on that “this is a hate crime” and that a witness reported that suspect Dylann Roof said to the black people he killed, “you rape our women and are taking over our country”, conservative columnist AJ Delgado maintained that the “odds would favor [the crime] NOT being racial”, Republican presidential candidate Lindsey Graham called him a “whacked-out kid” and suggested he was “looking for Christians to kill them, and USA Today referred to him as a “lone wolf”. The Daily Beast described the killer – a man who reportedly sat with a bible study group for an hour before he started to kill people – as “quiet and soft spoken”, averring that he had black friends on Facebook, even as his nine victims remained unnamed and uncelebrated.


What happened at the Charleston, South Carolina, church shooting?
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The excuses to call a white, male mass-killer anything but “a terrorist” are familiar – they’re part of a refrain repeated over and over again when a horrific crime intended to terrify a group of people is committed by a white man. It’s a refrain of denial. (The same denial happened when Elliot Rodger penned a misogynist manifesto before his killing spree: He’s not sexist, he’s just crazy!)

But the question, especially for white people who engage in the excuse-making, is: why are you so intent on defining situations like those in Charleston as not-terrorism? Why are you so invested in the idea that the crime was not one of hatred?

A white man apparently planned and allegedly carried out a terrorist act against a historic black church and its members. He used racist language while doing so, and has been pictured wearing a jacket covered in racist, white supremacist patches. We all know what these things mean; we know what the motivation for this massacre was. So how could anyone with sense see all of these things and still maintain that race wasn’t necessarily a factor, and terror wasn’t the intent?

It’s difficult to imagine anything else but that you are protecting the idea that you can be racist and not kill people. While it may be true that not all virulent racists are mass murderers, defending the public image of racists in the wake of a massacre devalues the lives taken.

And when you bend over backwards to make sure that white men who commit racist violence can maintain their humanity at the expense of the full measure of justice for their victims, we send a clear message about who is worth protecting and who isn’t.

Even though right wing domestic terror is as big a threat to the nation as terror from abroad, we’ll likely continue to widely hear Roof described as “crazy” or a “lone wolf”. What we won’t hear as broadly is how violence against people of color – especially, as my colleague Rebecca Carroll so brilliantly wrote, violence in the protection of white womanhood – is part of the United States’ historical legacy, that it is systematic, that it is organized, and that is has yet to end. Violence against people of color is only as “crazy” as America is and has been.

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