[BB4fan]

Originally Posted by qwerty42

I feel marcs anger. he didn't do anything wrong. Briasn started all arguments and contradicted himself

Brian caused the arguments, but he never really had any way of expressing himself like an actual adult instead he threw a strop after screaming random abuse at the pair, placed the blame on Helen and Marc, then ran to the diary room crying because he couldn't handle Helen and Marc defending themselves.

He was causing arguments for the sake of causing them just so he could look like a hero, but instead he came off looking like the aggressor who tried to hard. His plan to look like the hero backfired because he lost a lot of fans and really gained nothing from his stupidity.


Then there was his frozen duck thing. Wtf was he even doing...??? He clearly has serious anger issues and he needs some help.

[sampvt]

He is perfect for this show and is a 100% wind up merchant and master debater. He didn't do that much wrong against Brian but was guilty by association to Helen so he has a point but he is being slated from all corners and must be applauded for standing his ground. He has Danny in a spin and Cristian is **** scared of him. If Danny gets ejected like he should, Marc will befriend them all and drop the bad boy image as his job will be done. Its Danny that's ruining that house, not Marc.

Marc goofs around, Danny steps in and plays the hero, the feathers fly and the mood is lowered to the gutter and Marc gets the bad man tag. If Danny just butted out and let Marc rant away, it wouldn't be that bad.

[Vicky.]

Originally Posted by mimosveta

where is this even coming from, that Brian attacked first? Most fights were shown pre-edited, for most of them you can't even say what the fight is about, just that everyone's screaming at Brian. Original fight started after Helen rained terror over crying Chloe which bothered Brian and he attempted to stop Helen, so then Helen and Marc turned terrorizing on Brian instead.

Now you could argue that it was Brian butting in, that they were clearly targeting Chloe, that it had nothing to do with Brian, but if you are honest with your self, that would be very cynical thing to claim. Defending someone isn't attacking.

Who started all fights after that is really hard to tell cause we get to see 45 minutes out of 24 hours, and typically only the juiciest details, no warm up, just faults, no foreplay.

It's easy to claim "I didn't do nothing" after the fact, but you don't get to apologize to BB if you didn't do anything. Which he totally did

Because from what we actually saw...the majority of the time, it was Helen and Brian going at each other, then Brian said something about/to Marc, Marc answered...and it went from there?

[marlobrando2]

It seems back in January when Jeremy was ejected from the house, Danny wasn't Chloe's biggest fan... and twitted.

Danny Whisker
@Chloe_Goodman unlucky ********! Let's hope the public bully you in the street.

Twitter has really taken a turn against him with lots of previous tweets sharing the rounds!

In the house he pretended to be Mr protector of female.

[MrWong]

Originally Posted by JamesBond

You're wrong Mr Wong.

I'm not. It was shown in the highlights.

[Robertocarlo]

Originally Posted by Absorption

"Pyschopath" not ringing any bells, then?

The great thing about Marc is his ability to wind people up, like the older brother who knows how to get the younger one to react, then sits back all innocently and says, "Mum, look what (....) is doing!"

I think all this unfounded sympathy for Brian and Nikki as opposed to hostility to Marc and Helen is down to a form of Mass Hysteria. Mass Hysteria is often used by despicable politicians like Adolph Hitler when, for example, he whipped up a hysteria about the Jews to justify his genocide. Now I know this isn't quite the same thing in the case of BB but the same tactics are being used. We are getting a continual, drip drip drip of poison from BBOTS and it's totally biased audience and panel night after night against Marc and latterly Helen. None of their accusations have any foundation in fact or evidence. They choose only to show negative things about Marc now to justify their irrational liking of Brian and Nikki? The public and audience along with may of the HMs react as a herd, not wishing to be the odd one out, agreeing and lapping up everything that's fed to them without thinking for themselves. So the words "sheep" are a good analogy to describe them and Mass Hysteria is certainly at work here. Thank goodness thought that many on here along with Harry and Charley are not being fooled.

[Livia]

Knock it off with the Hitler analogies, would you?

[Ammi]

Originally Posted by Robertocarlo

I think all this unfounded sympathy for Brian and Nikki as opposed to hostility to Marc and Helen is down to a form of Mass Hysteria. Mass Hysteria is often used by despicable politicians like Adolph Hitler when, for example, he whipped up a hysteria about the Jews to justify his genocide. Now I know this isn't quite the same thing in the case of BB but the same tactics are being used. We are getting a continual, drip drip drip of poison from BBOTS and it's totally biased audience and panel night after night against Marc and latterly Helen. None of their accusations have any foundation in fact or evidence. They choose only to show negative things about Marc now to justify their irrational liking of Brian and Nikki? The public and audience along with may of the HMs react as a herd, not wishing to be the odd one out, agreeing and lapping up everything that's fed to them without thinking for themselves. So the words "sheep" are a good analogy to describe them and Mass Hysteria is certainly at work here. Thank goodness thought that many on here along with Harry and Charley are not being fooled.

....hmmm, I don't go with that at all because my opinions on housemates are only on the HL show/I've watched very little BBOTS this year and on the occasions I have, like last night, I often have disagreed with the panel....especially when they call housemates evil and satans etc....

[the truth]

he did call him a psychopath amongst many other things....he also ignored him in the den and talked over him and didn't allow him a voice

[sungrass]

The thing is people clearly didnt watch Brians interview on bbots where he described the childish games Marc and Helen were playing. He was trying to avoid them - completely and they would follow him whereever he went trying to get him to loose it so they could call him a physcho! I wish people watched the interview

[Miss Nicole]

Originally Posted by sungrass

The thing is people clearly didnt watch Brians interview on bbots where he described the childish games Marc and Helen were playing. He was trying to avoid them - completely and they would follow him whereever he went trying to get him to loose it so they could call him a physcho! I wish people watched the interview

Selective memories, I'm sure Emma will remind everyone when she interviews Marc.

[Griffin5779]

Originally Posted by Absorption

"Pyschopath" not ringing any bells, then?

The great thing about Marc is his ability to wind people up, like the older brother who knows how to get the younger one to react, then sits back all innocently and says, "Mum, look what (....) is doing!"

really? is there is a quote where he calls him a pyschopath? please cite the quote

[JamesBond]

Originally Posted by MrWong

I'm not. It was shown in the highlights.

No Mr Wong the highlights showed something quite contradictory. It showed Brian acting like a crazy man and being called exactly what he is.

People are trying to make out that Marc called him that for no reason.

[ItWasJustBanter]

Originally Posted by Griffin5779

really? is there is a quote where he calls him a pyschopath? please cite the quote

There is.

It was in response to Brian acting like a complete lunatic, though I'm not sure he was acting.

[MrWong]

Originally Posted by JamesBond

No Mr Wong the highlights showed something quite contradictory. It showed Brian acting like a crazy man and being called exactly what he is.

People are trying to make out that Marc called him that for no reason.

Well I'm not saying that. I'm saying that calling someone psycho when they are already upset is goading.

Anyway, I initially brought up the fact that Marc called Brian a psycho because on last nights highlights Marc insisted that he never said anything bad about Brian. When clearly he did.

[JamesBond]

Originally Posted by MrWong

Well I'm not saying that. I'm saying that calling someone psycho when they are already upset is goading.

Anyway, I initially brought up the fact that Marc called Brian a psycho because on last nights highlights Marc insisted that he never said anything bad about Brian. When clearly he did.

He never said anything unprovoked and never meant it in a malicious way, it was more like chill out youre making a show of yourself you ****ing psycho. So in Marc's head he didn't really do anything wrong, and I happen to agree with him.

[MrWong]

Originally Posted by JamesBond

He never said anything unprovoked and never meant it in a malicious way, it was more like chill out youre making a show of yourself you ****ing psycho. So in Marc's head he didn't really do anything wrong, and I happen to agree with him.

Marc never said that though.

He said that he didn't say anything bad about Brian.

You can interpret his psycho comment as caring, to me it looked like goading, especially as Helen had already used the insult herself about Brian.

[Absorption]

Originally Posted by JamesBond

He never said anything unprovoked and never meant it in a malicious way, it was more like chill out youre making a show of yourself you ****ing psycho. So in Marc's head he didn't really do anything wrong, and I happen to agree with him.

Ah, okay. He never said it. But, if he did, it wasn't in a malicious way. Was it, by any chance, "just banter"?

[Absorption]

Originally Posted by Robertocarlo

I think all this unfounded sympathy for Brian and Nikki as opposed to hostility to Marc and Helen is down to a form of Mass Hysteria. Mass Hysteria is often used by despicable politicians like Adolph Hitler when, for example, he whipped up a hysteria about the Jews to justify his genocide. Now I know this isn't quite the same thing in the case of BB but the same tactics are being used. We are getting a continual, drip drip drip of poison from BBOTS and it's totally biased audience and panel night after night against Marc and latterly Helen. None of their accusations have any foundation in fact or evidence. They choose only to show negative things about Marc now to justify their irrational liking of Brian and Nikki? The public and audience along with may of the HMs react as a herd, not wishing to be the odd one out, agreeing and lapping up everything that's fed to them without thinking for themselves. So the words "sheep" are a good analogy to describe them and Mass Hysteria is certainly at work here. Thank goodness thought that many on here along with Harry and Charley are not being fooled.

BBBOTS does nothing to influence my opinions, only lower slightly each day my optimism for the human race.

I think any comparisons with Hitler (that would be Adolf) are a little bit out of order, although I take your point that the BB fanbase does seem to cross the line from 'panto villain booing' to somthing a bit more worrying at times.

The series (and production team) has taken a much more negative turn over the last couple of years and unfortunately hysteria tends to flourish more significantly in such a context.

All that said, Marc is no innocent. His stated plan was to go in and 'mix it up' and this is what has happened. However, this has consequences and he doesn't like it when he's hit by the fallout.