[Griffin5779]

Originally Posted by MrWong

He was irate, with good reason.

If some gobby chav said I looked like a rapist/murderer and then her little lapdog chimed in with psycho comments I'd use demeaning language also.

i said he used it before..but i guess the excuse is "i knew she was going to say i lookeg like a murder"

[Griffin5779]

Originally Posted by Livia

Marc isn't well-liked in the house, they mostly seem to find him antagonistic. That's because they're living with him and not seeing 50 minutes of edited footage every night.

antagonistic? you mean irritating? i'm sure he is...how many have scaled the walls?

still..no examples of marc antagonizing brian

[JamesBond]

Originally Posted by ItWasJustBanter

Excyowse moi. Oi would loike too 'av a reasoned debate.

Look on Nicks face says it all, he's like Brian just calm down man.

[sosadbbend]

Originally Posted by Griffin5779

Anyone with examples of Marc antagonizing Brian post them here

I'm especially interested in any examples that show he irritated Brian more then the other housemates)

I saw Brian whining and complaining in the Diary room, I saw Brian being really nasty and bitchy about Helen and and marc behind their back, and I saw several arguments. most of the arguments where started by Brian and he was loud, aggressive and nasty in all of them..aside from from the one time helen made those inappropriate comments (which marc disagreed with seconds after they passed her lips) i saw very little that either of the two did aimed at Brian.

yet still every show is people repeating the same "you antagonized brian" comment..over and over...and i've yet to see a housemate, a guest or anyone on the forum give a concrete example. in fact i've seen several make comments like ' well i didn't see but you must have' or ' he went over the wall you must have'

it is incredible frustrating for me...imagine what it must be like for marc..in the house..unable to see how its been presented on tv..and having to defend himself against claims when no one can give him examples..

and then he gets comments like "well its over now just let it go"

"yes you have been convicted of murder and no one has given any proof (beside you look like a murder)..but you should just let it go, spend your 20 years in jail and except being branded as killer the rest of your life"

please provide ME examples of marc antagonizing Brian so i can move on

I'm not wasting my time trawling through old episodes but you can and then you will have your examples.

[the truth]

he called brian a psycho several times, he swore at him umpteen times, he was warned by big brother for swearing and being abusive to brian, he encouraged Helen bullying brian, he sad nothing when she said he looked like a rapist psycho murderer....only later did he claim he didn't agree with her....that's just off the top of my head. hes goaded people all the time calling jade and ashleyne liars when he didn't have a clue what he was on about....jade is a model so marc was lying there....ashleynes affairs on judge reiner is none of marcs business again he called her a liar. he insulted some of the girls the minute he walked in, accusing one girl of having sexually transmitted diseases etc etc what an ignorant lying deluded ignorant bullying bore

[Griffin5779]

Originally Posted by sosadbbend

I'm not wasting my time trawling through old episodes but you can and then you will have your examples.

so no example then..thank you

[Jannigran]

Great post griffin, I've been screaming at the telly for those that keep bringing it up to back this accusation with an example , and they can't so I'm not hopeful that you'll find your answer here but thanks for trying.

[Griffin5779]

Originally Posted by the truth

he called brian a psycho several times, he swore at him umpteen times, he was warned by big brother for swearing and being abusive to brian, he encouraged Helen bullying brian, he sad nothing when she said he looked like a rapist psycho murderer....only later did he claim he didn't agree with her....that's just off the top of my head. hes goaded people all the time calling jade and ashleyne liars when he didn't have a clue what he was on about....jade is a model so marc was lying there....ashleynes affairs on judge reiner is none of marcs business again he called her a liar. he insulted some of the girls the minute he walked in, accusing one girl of having sexually transmitted diseases etc etc what an ignorant lying deluded ignorant bullying bore

the only thing you listed that could be remotely called an example of anything is the psycho comment.psycho is informal for crazy..and people say "you are crazy" all the time..marc was hardly making a diagnosis of a mental illness and that comment only occurred well after brian started his victim game and blew up yelling aggressively. marc was only warned by bb cause they had to cover their ass from brian fans as a possible lawsuit when he went over the wall and psycho was the only thing they could find. that and brain said said they made him feel bullyed..do you think if marc made a similar clain danny would be warned? and there are more then i example of people getting right up in marcs face and yelling at him.

he never encouraged her to bully he told her repeatedly to calm down but if you have EXAMPLES of this feel free to share.

no..he didn't immediately scream over her comment..he stood up and turned around to calm the other housemate who were all in an uproar but he took the first chance to distance himself.

he swore..in arguements..when brian became enraged and swore as well

[sungrass]

Personally I want Marc to win. He has been the only entetaining out of the ones left. I think its pretty simple that people who dont 'get' Brians perspective - never saw his series in 2007. So I can imagine what he looks like to them - and its not good but to people who know him, know its genuine. I havent watched every epidode for a while now - only the odd few a week. I missed that Harry saw Helen called a fooking red eyed rodent - I know the HM's were intimidated by Helen.

All in all though no one is going to change anyones mind and we really could do with livefeed!

[Miss Nicole]

If Brian said he felt antagonised then that's all that matters .

[BB4fan]

Brian started on Marc ALL the time. We only have to rewatch the hour show to see who caused what.


That loud mouthed Brian kept on and on.

[Miss Nicole]

If Brian felt antagonised he was being antagonized, that's no doubt why bb gave Marc and Helen a warning , maybe you can't quantify something like that , so giving examples is irrelevant .

[BB4fan]

Originally Posted by Miss Nicole

If Brian said he felt antagonised then that's all that matters .

Of course, so if he murdered someone just as long as he felt antagonized then that's all the matters.

[Fendertele]

Originally Posted by ItWasJustBanter

'You know you've got my f---ing straighteners!, give 'em back now!, you're making me look like a right Psycho with-out 'em!'

[Nancy.]

Griffin and BB4 fan, I agree with everything you've said in here, Well done. Too bad nobody has given you any examples yet but I expected it tbh..

[BB4fan]

Originally Posted by Miss Nicole

If Brian felt antagonised he was being antagonized, that's no doubt why bb gave Marc and Helen a warning , maybe you can't quantify something like that , so giving examples is irrelevant .

You don't think had Brian stayed that he wouldn't have got a warning...??? Or ejected.

He took all his clothes off and Helen felt terrified. She didn't want to enrage him further just read the poor woman's column.

[Miss Nicole]

Originally Posted by BB4fan

Of course, so if he murdered someone just as long as he felt antagonized then that's all the matters.

He didn't murder anyone so that's not relevant.

[BB4fan]

Originally Posted by Miss Nicole

He didn't murder anyone so that's not relevant.

My point is any idiot can cause an argument then run to the diary room with fake tears playing the victim just like Brian.

[Miss Nicole]

Originally Posted by BB4fan

You don't think had Brian stayed that he wouldn't have got a warning...??? Or ejected.

He took all his clothes off and Helen felt terrified. She didn't want to enrage him further just read the poor woman's column.

I can't talk about what might have happened, all I can say is if Brian felt antagonised then that's it and no amount of collecting times and dates and incidents will change that .

[BB4fan]

Originally Posted by Miss Nicole

I can't talk about what might have happened, all I can say is if Brian felt antagonised then that's it and no amount of collecting times and dates and incidents will change that .

But lets be honest here he looked for it time and time again with both Helen and Marc.

Helen did make remarks YES, but with Marc Brian just simply went for him constantly, then played victim simply because Marc wass friends with Helen. His bad temper would indicate to me that he never felt the least bit antagonized.

[AnnieK]

Originally Posted by BB4fan

You don't think had Brian stayed that he wouldn't have got a warning...??? Or ejected.

He took all his clothes off and Helen felt terrified. She didn't want to enrage him further just read the poor woman's column.

How do you know that Helen was terrified? Because she said so. As Brian said he felt antagonised. Can't have one rule for one and another for the other. I am in no way saying Helen wasn't if that's what she said but if that's the case then it follows that equally Brian could feel antagonised about something he experienced

[Miss Nicole]

Originally Posted by BB4fan

My point is any idiot can cause an argument then run to the diary room with fake tears playing the victim just like Brian.

This thread is about listing examples of when Brian was antagonised, what I'm saying is regardless of what anyone thinks about any situation if Brian said he felt that way then he did .

[Miss Nicole]

Originally Posted by BB4fan

But lets be honest here he looked for it time and time again with both Helen and Marc.

Helen did make remarks YES, but with Marc Brian just simply went for him constantly, then played victim simply because Marc wass friends with Helen. His bad temper would indicate to me that he never felt the least bit antagonized.

All of that is only your opinion from your perspective which you are entitled to, but you can't say some one felt or didn't feel a way just because you don't agree with it.

[Miss Nicole]

Helen said she felt scared of Brian .

Brian felt antagonised.

You can't argue either are wrong.

[BB4fan]

Originally Posted by Miss Nicole

This thread is about listing examples of when Brian was antagonised, what I'm saying is regardless of what anyone thinks about any situation if Brian said he felt that way then he did .

Brian went in there to intentionally attack Helen just to play hero to the public but when he attacked her he also attacked Marc with no real relevant input as to what he hated them for. When he actually went at them he wasn't clever enough to outwit Helen so he went to the diary room, played victim and threw a strop blaming everything on them.


When he finally realized that the viewing public may not see him as the hero he wanted to be seen as (and his bad temper) he jumped the wall in a hissy fit, then placed the blame on them.

If your listing reasons as to why he was antagonized by Marc then post the evidence instead of just take his word for it. Re-watch the show and you'll find that it was indeed Brian who went at Helen AND attacked Marc in the process.