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Mitchell · 27-09-2015, 07:06 PM

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I think they should get rid of it and put a better/more stable coaster in it's place

I don't think destroying a 18 million rollercoasters a viable option considering its human error.

I think the accident is horrific and I am so sorry to the girls who have lost their leg, however this is a one in a gazillion freak accident and its a business.

Samuel. · 27-09-2015, 07:07 PM

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Yeah that's my original thinking really. I mean I tend to stick to thinking about things rationally and even knowing that the ride would probably be as safe as - probably safer than - any other ride now... I'd still be massively crapping in my pants if I got on it

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Maybe that could be part of the thrill though? "Come on the smiler! You might lose a limb!"

Same. It's a bit Final Destination... but you know there's going to be people out there dying to get on it now, maybe Alton Towers should lean into it. Get #SmilerSurviver trending, sell some "I survived The Smiler" merchandise.

Dollface · 27-09-2015, 07:08 PM

Tbh, before I had seen the pictures, I probably would have gone on The Smiler despite knowing that an accident occurred on it. But after seeing what it's done to those 2 girls (it's completely altered their lives) I think it would be insulting (to them) if I went on the ride that did that to them, putting my own legs at risk, just for the sake of a quick thrill.

Dollface · 27-09-2015, 07:10 PM

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Originally Posted by Toy Soldier

"The Chomper"

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I think Dollface will love this

Now this is a good idea

Glenn. · 27-09-2015, 07:10 PM

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Originally Posted by LukeB

It is tho, they can knock it down and bulid a new one.. they have done this before.. r.i.p Corkscrew

Corkscrew was over 20yrs old. The Smiler is 2yrs old. Alton Towers will not too down a multi million pound rollercoaster because of a freak accident. One that was human error. The coaster has nothing wrong with it.

Dollface · 27-09-2015, 07:11 PM

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Originally Posted by Quasar

Corkscrew was over 20yrs old. The Smiler is 2yrs old. Alton Towers will not too down a multi million pound rollercoaster because of a freak accident. One that was human error. The coaster has nothing wrong with it.

If the coaster had nothing wrong with it, it would have had something put in place to stop passengers legs from being crushed if an accident was to occur.

Glenn. · 27-09-2015, 07:12 PM

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If the coaster had nothing wrong with it, it would have had something put in place to stop passengers legs from being crushed if an accident was to occur.

The coaster cars aren't supposed to smash into each other to cause that kind of accident. That was the ride operators fault. Not the coaster.

Toy Soldier · 27-09-2015, 07:13 PM

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Originally Posted by Quasar

Corkscrew was over 20yrs old. The Smiler is 2yrs old. Alton Towers will not too down a multi million pound rollercoaster because of a freak accident. One that was human error. The coaster has nothing wrong with it.

It doesn't have anything wrong with it, no, and like I said it's probably one of the SAFEST coasters in the world now (because they will surely triple-check every bolt forever) BUT it's not about whether or not it is physically safe, it's how people's gut will feel when actually faced with the prospect of climbing on. Many people will simply not want to.

...the best rides at Alton Towers are the River Rapids and the Log Flume anyway

. Genuinely hilarious with a group of friends.

Toy Soldier · 27-09-2015, 07:15 PM

AND no one has lost a limb on the rapids. Me and a few friends did get stuck on it for nearly half an hour though. Damn thing got stuck into a corner and every time it was about to float free, the next one came along and bumped us back in

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Glenn. · 27-09-2015, 07:15 PM

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It doesn't have anything wrong with it, no, and like I said it's probably one of the SAFEST coasters in the world now (because they will surely triple-check every bolt forever) BUT it's not about whether or not it is physically safe, it's how people's gut will feel when actually faced with the prospect of climbing on. Many people will simply not want to.

...the best rides at Alton Towers are the River Rapids and the Log Flume anyway

. Genuinely hilarious with a group of friends.

That's the draw of roller coasters. That's the point of theme. When I go onto a rollercoaster allsorts of ideas enter my head about what could go wrong. I still ride them.

MTVN · 27-09-2015, 07:15 PM

Hasn't the Smiler been plagued by technical problems since it was built and even on the day itself there had been issues with it before the accident

Liam- · 27-09-2015, 07:17 PM

Tear down all roller coasters and be done with it, awful things.

LukeB · 27-09-2015, 07:18 PM

no

LukeB · 27-09-2015, 07:19 PM

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Originally Posted by MTVN

Hasn't the Smiler been plagued by technical problems since it was built and even on the day itself there had been issues with it before the accident

Maybe, I can't remember

DemolitionRed · 27-09-2015, 07:19 PM

From what I've been told, every time an empty carriage was circulated round the track, a number of manual checks had to be carried out and ticked off. The person who was meant to be doing these checks ticked off that they had done them, when in fact they hadn't done anything of the sort. This was a disaster waiting to happen because of the sheer lack of vigilance on how staff were performing. The responsibility starts with the lazy ride operator right up to Nick Varney. They are all culpritable.

I think the ride should perhaps open next spring but not before.

Mitchell · 27-09-2015, 07:20 PM

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Originally Posted by MTVN

Hasn't the Smiler been plagued by technical problems since it was built and even on the day itself there had been issues with it before the accident

Every ride in the world has these issues daily to be honest, people just make a huge deal when something like this happens.

Toy Soldier · 27-09-2015, 07:20 PM

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That's the draw of roller coasters. That's the point of theme. When I go onto a rollercoaster allsorts of ideas enter my head about what could go wrong. I still ride them.

Hypothetically - if you were on the smiler when it crashed and lost a leg, would you think "Oh well, that's the risk you take for the thrill"?

I'm not mocking here, genuinely interested, some "extreme sportsmen" (gear-free climbers, base jumpers etc.) who have ended up with serious injuries really do see it that way.

Ashley. · 27-09-2015, 07:20 PM

As long as they get smarter operators, yes, but I think we should wait a bit longer.

LukeB · 27-09-2015, 07:21 PM

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Originally Posted by DemolitionRed

From what I've been told, every time an empty carriage was circulated round the track, a number of manual checks had to be carried out and ticked off. The person who was meant to be doing these checks ticked off that they had done them, when in fact they hadn't done anything of the sort. This was a disaster waiting to happen because of the sheer lack of vigilance on how staff were performing. The responsibility starts with the lazy ride operator right up to Nick Varney. They are all culpritable.

I think the ride should perhaps open next spring but not before.

Yeah I agree with that, It's way too soon to re-open it.. There's always Air,Rita and Oblivion

Glenn. · 27-09-2015, 07:24 PM

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Originally Posted by Toy Soldier

Hypothetically - if you were on the smiler when it crashed and lost a leg, would you think "Oh well, that's the risk you take for the thrill"?

I'm not mocking here, genuinely interested, some "extreme sportsmen" (gear-free climbers, base jumpers etc.) who have ended up with serious injuries really do see it that way.

Well it would be a massive pain in the arse to lose a leg but I would just sue the pants off them and I would be rich.

Toy Soldier · 27-09-2015, 07:26 PM

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Well it would be a massive pain in the arse to lose a leg but I would just sue the pants off them and I would be rich.

True, I'd lose a leg from the knee down for a couple of million to be honest. Above the knee I'd want at least 5 mil.

Glenn. · 27-09-2015, 07:27 PM

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True, I'd lose a leg from the knee down for a couple of million to be honest. Above the knee I'd want at least 5 mil.

Same. It would soften the blow a little. It wouldn't be the end of the world.

Ashley. · 27-09-2015, 07:27 PM

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Well it would be a massive pain in the arse to lose a leg but I would just sue the pants off them and I would be rich.

yeah it probably would hurt a bit

Mitchell · 27-09-2015, 07:27 PM

They've been testing cars around the track with dummies (different weights, different car amounts) and its looking likely to open before the end of the season for the record.

(I still have many friends who are theme park enthusiasts, I was a huge one until I got back into TV majorly.)

LukeB · 27-09-2015, 07:27 PM

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yeah it probably would hurt a bit

A bit?

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