[Kizzy]

He didn't do it for the sport he did it for the tusks.

'Nixon Dzingai, the professional hunter who led the hunt, said the elephant had arrived unexpectedly one morning towards the end of the German’s trip, and they had not realised the size of his tusks until it was too late.
"We did not have to stalk the elephant it just showed up at 7.30 in the morning, before the heat. I was so surprised when we saw how the horns. My client did not ask for this, he just wanted an elephant,'

'In the last ten years elephant numbers have dropped by 62%. There are fewer than 500,000 on the African continent today and conservationists have warned that by the end of the next decade, they could be extinct'

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worl...-Zimbabwe.html

[Ammi]

..it was a legal hunt, which is the point that bitontheslide was making, not condoning..and regardless of whether a 'mistake' was made in shooting that particular elephant or not..because it's all very easy to say when people are rightfully outraged and sickened in something you've taken an active part in...'oh, we didn't realise until it was too late'...and as long as these hunts are allowed legally, these old beasts will be killed, so making them illegal is the only true way to conserve...which hopefully the media worldwide will help with in carrying on reporting them as they have recently...

[Kizzy]

BOTS also made the point it was a basic human instinct too, which is debatable.
The legality of the kill is in question seeing as the beast appears to have originated from somewhere other that where the 'hunter' was permitted to hunt.

[Ammi]

..that's still missing the thing though.. in that as long as these hunts are allowed then these things are very open to happening...if it was out of the permitted area, if that's found to be so, then it won't change that the elephant is dead...the only way to change these deaths is to make them all illegal...so 'mistakes', if it was such, can't happen and there can be no question....

[Kizzy]

I'm not missing anything, the only way to solve the issue would be a universal ban on hunting... that's never going to be agreed upon is it? Heck we can't even manage that here.

[arista]

Yes when all the Animals have Gone
we Will Blame AFRICANS 100%

They take the Fecking Cash

S CUM

[Kazanne]

It's a shame it even happens at all , you would think that with our so called superiority to other species and ability ,to think , feel and understand that no one ever would consider doing such a barbaric thing, I mean seriously, what would any sane thinking person actually benefit from doing that ? as Livia said , send them out with a spear, see how much the cowards would pay then.

[lostalex]

i'm sorry, but i still have a hard time accepting this outcry from people who eat meat every day. i can except it from peta, because at least they are consistent about what comes out of their mouth matches what they put in their mouth. but if you eat any animal products you really can't talk. just because it doesn't look like an animal when you buy it in the grocery store or at a restaurant doesn't change the fact that you are killing animals. and just because you think the animal like a lion or an elephant looks nicer than a cow or a chicken doesn't change it either.

if you are not a vegan I can't take you seriously about your outrage over killing any animal.

[arista]

Originally Posted by lostalex

i'm sorry, but i still have a hard time accepting this outcry from people who eat meat every day. i can except it from peta, because at least they are consistent about what comes out of their mouth matches what they put in their mouth. but if you eat any animal products you really can't talk. just because it doesn't look like an animal when you buy it in the grocery store or at a restaurant doesn't change the fact that you are killing animals. and just because you think the animal like a lion or an elephant looks nicer than a cow or a chicken doesn't change it either.

if you are not a vegan I can't take you seriously about your outrage over killing any animal.

I do that from Cattle thats in Factorys.
thats not running out.


In Africa if All the Big Horn Animals
are killed with big cash
for a Evil trophy photo
Then that nation will Die more.


You can not compare a Big Mac
to a Murdering a Massive Elephant
I hope someone punches this German


Alex Times Have Changed

[lostalex]

Originally Posted by arista

I do that from Cattle thats in Factorys.
thats not running out.


In Africa if All the Big Horn Animals
are killed with big cash
for a Evil trophy photo
Then that nation will Die more.


You can not compare a Big Mac
to a Murdering a Massive Elephant
I hope someone punches this German


Alex Times Have Changed

an elephant is big and powerful and can defend itself. a cow or a chicken raised on a farm is helpless.

[Ammi]

..a bullet when fired at a safe distance can't be defended against, no matter how powerful the animal though...the elephant was as helpless as a lamb...

[lostalex]

Originally Posted by Ammi

..a bullet when fired at a safe distance can't be defended against, no matter how powerful the animal though...the elephant was as helpless as a lamb...

elephants have been around just as long as humans. they could choose to invent guns if they wanted to. they have tusks and much stronger legs, that's not fair either.

[Ammi]

Originally Posted by lostalex

elephants have been around just as long as humans. they could choose to invent guns if they wanted to. they have tusks and much stronger legs, that's not fair either.

..okey doke Alex...'human' was meant to have compassion and empathy but obviously not with game hunters because they prey on helpless in their methods and I doubt they would like to feel such helplessness themselves..they'll take life just for trophies and to say..hey, look what I did...anyways, it's all sadly quite legal so I have no more to add really but I personally don't think that sport/thrill killing and food killing can be equated in the same way at all...animals born to be wild and animals bred for food...

[arista]

Originally Posted by lostalex

an elephant is big and powerful and can defend itself. a cow or a chicken raised on a farm is helpless.

The Cow or Chicken are in Factorys for Food



The Elephant has no power against a Evil Gun Fecker Kraut

[arista]

Originally Posted by Ammi

..a bullet when fired at a safe distance can't be defended against, no matter how powerful the animal though...the elephant was as helpless as a lamb...

Bang On Right
Slick Ammi.


Alex is Wrong on This Topic

[lostalex]

Originally Posted by arista

The Cow or Chicken are in Factorys for Food



The Elephant has no power against a Evil Gun Fecker Kraut

the elephant is much more powerful than a human and elephants atlas live free before they are hunted. , a chicken that has lived in a factory has never known freedom and has no defenses at all.

eating a chicken is far more evil in my opinion.

[arista]

Originally Posted by lostalex

the elephant is much more powerful than a human and elephants atlas live free before they are hunted. , a chicken that has lived in a factory has never known freedom and has no defenses at all.

eating a chicken is far more evil in my opinion.

Wrong that Chicken was made in Factory for Food.


Alex you need this place in LA
http://www.thisisbigbrother.com/foru...d.php?t=290480


No Way in Fecking Hell
can you compare this with that Murdering
of a Rare Animal.



Ammi Sort him out

[Kizzy]

Bit of a non argument comparing animals in the wild to those raised for food.

[Toy Soldier]

Originally Posted by Kizzy

Bit of a non argument comparing animals in the wild to those raised for food.

Why?

[Kizzy]

Originally Posted by Toy Soldier

Why?

The numbers involved, the fact that animals raised for food are not restricted to 2 continents, the ability to reproduce, the ease of raising/feeding/ processing.

[Toy Soldier]

Originally Posted by Kizzy

The numbers involved, the fact that animals raised for food are not restricted to 2 continents, the ability to reproduce, the ease of raising/feeding/ processing.

By this logic, the lives of certain fish are worth more than any human life.

[Kizzy]

Originally Posted by Toy Soldier

By this logic, the lives of certain fish are worth more than any human life.

Why stop at fish? I'm sure there are rarer mollusks or bacteria...

[JoshBB]

I think hunting really needs to be banned. Calling it a 'sport' doesn't cut it for me.. if someone finds enjoyment out of killing harmless animals then they need help.

[arista]

Originally Posted by JoshBB

I think hunting really needs to be banned. Calling it a 'sport' doesn't cut it for me.. if someone finds enjoyment out of killing harmless animals then they need help.

We can not tell Africa what to do.


Unless you are saying take control of each nation
again.

British Empire JoshBB

[Dollface]

Originally Posted by JoshBB

I think hunting really needs to be banned. Calling it a 'sport' doesn't cut it for me.. if someone finds enjoyment out of killing harmless animals then they need help.

They don't need help, they need putting down or locking up for the rest of their pathetic lives