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The X Factor 2015 [S12] Series 12 of ITV's music reality show, The X Factor with judges Simon, Rita Ora, Cheryl and Nick Grimshaw ran from August to December 2015 and was won by Louisa Johnson.

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Old 08-11-2015, 08:23 PM #26
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If people read about this they're more likely to think "typical X Factor", not "wow X Factor I want to watch". If anything this has secured them even lower ratings than usual.
Yeah but a controversial result such as this one gets people talking (it's the top trend on Twitter rn) which should garner more interest for next week.
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So in other words the "that's entertainment" reasoning works for you only when it doesn't involve one of your favourites?
Nope, I've lost favourites in controversial sing-offs before but understood the reasoning and accepted that's what this show is about and a big part of the reason I watch, but when it's pointless...it makes no sense

You don't know who Mason is so you wouldn't know why it's pointless because he's not your stereotypical ~bad~ act that's saved, he's quite good
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She stuck with the type of artist that most represents the genre of music she does and the artist she understands and likes more.. nothing more to it really, having judges with different opinions is the whole point of them being there.
I agree, that what makes a great judge
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She stuck with the type of artist that most represents the genre of music she does and the artist she understands and likes more.. nothing more to it really, having judges with different opinions is the whole point of them being there.
But by the same token, making a choice based on the sing-off is the whole point of having that there. If they're just entitled to disregard that then they might as well scrap it entirely. It's clearly pointless filler in too many instances.
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I agree, that what makes a great judge
that is weird? i never knew sending home a better act made someone a better judge.
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They should've gone to Nick first for the drama
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that is weird? i never knew sending home a better act made someone a better judge.
If he was a better act why didn't he get the votes from the public that got him in the bottom 3?
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I think so, yes.
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If he was a better act why didn't he get the votes from the public that got him in the bottom 3?
The amount of votes they get the how talented they are isn't necessarily linked. Better singers have left plenty of times, it doesn't automatically make them less talented than the one they left against.

But then, "better" is subjective too.
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The amount of votes they get the how talented they are isn't necessarily linked. Better singers have left plenty of times, it doesn't automatically make them less talented than the one they left against.

But then, "better" is subjective too.
But why blame the judges? The public obviously never got behind him and Seann has had two boring shouty songs...he was too theatrical for the show really
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But why blame the judges? The public obviously never got behind him and Seann has had two boring shouty songs...he was too theatrical for the show really
because its a singing competion.

the way the judges act is the reason viewers turn off
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The amount of votes they get the how talented they are isn't necessarily linked. Better singers have left plenty of times, it doesn't automatically make them less talented than the one they left against.

But then, "better" is subjective too.
Due to deadlock 95% of the time.. I blame the public more than I do the judges tbh
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But why blame the judges? The public obviously never got behind him and Seann has had two boring shouty songs...he was too theatrical for the show really
If you believe the judges shouldn't be at all held accountable then why did you insult Simon last week when he saved Kiera based on the sing-off?

And I never absolved the voters, I count myself among those who shouldn't have assumed certain people were safe.
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She sent him home because that's what the producers wanted. It always goes to Deadlock when it's two acts of the same category in the bottom two because it's more dramatic. Mason will cause more controversy so they saved him for the promo.

The judges don't decide who stays and who goes, it's the producers.
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I saw Mason perform live at the 6 chairs challenge and he was one of those who stood out to me. There's just something about him.
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I saw Mason perform live at the 6 chairs challenge and he was one of those who stood out to me. There's just something about him.
Yeah, he brings in the headlines and promo. That's why the producers kept him.
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I saw Mason perform live at the 6 chairs challenge and he was one of those who stood out to me. There's just something about him.
Rita said the same thing didn't she? before voting to save him
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Nick sabotaged Seann.
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Nick sabotaged Seann.
The judges have no power apart from Simon.
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Yeah, he brings in the headlines and promo. That's why the producers kept him.
Same reason they kept Katie Waissel so many times. At least Mason can actually sing.
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Rita said the same thing didn't she? before voting to save him
yes, she did.
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Same reason they kept Katie Waissel so many times. At least Mason can actually sing.
The later has anything to do with the former so why bring it up like it's a counter argument?
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Why's nobody questioning the fact it was Nick's vote that sent it to deadlock and the public who didn't vote for him?

That's hardly Rita's fault.
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Why's nobody questioning the fact it was Nick's vote that sent it to deadlock and the public who didn't vote for him?

That's hardly Rita's fault.
You have a point.
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Why's nobody questioning the fact it was Nick's vote that sent it to deadlock and the public who didn't vote for him?

That's hardly Rita's fault.
But the producers decided to take it to Deadlock to get the result they wanted. They look at the voting figures and tell that judges to act accordingly.
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