[Jamie89]

I've just got a couple of questions about chat threads. I'm just wondering why they get closed basically? And if they get closed, when are new ones made? And if anyone can make them and if you need to get permission first? Just the general rules of them I suppose, I couldn't find anything in the FAQ section. (I'm not talking specifically about last nights chat thread that got closed btw, I'm just curious to know the rules in general)

[Will.]

It's all rather confusing tbh

[Niamh.]

last night the chat thread got closed because of arguing, in that case people are not permitted to start up a new one.

Normally generally speaking they get closed when a mod thinks they're big enough could be anywhere between 3000-5000 posts really. When it's decided to close the thread, those posting in the Chat thread usually decide amongst themselves who will start the new one and it's started pretty much as soon as the old one is closed

The reason they get closed when they get too big is that bigger threads can slow the forum a bit I think

[Jamie89]

Originally Posted by Will1999

It's all rather confusing tbh

Oh good it's not just me It would just be nice to know is all, I saw a new chat thread before and thought 'oh yay, that's good' lol, but then I saw it had been closed too. I'm just curious more than anything

[Jamie89]

Originally Posted by Niamh.

last night the chat thread got closed because of arguing, in that case people are not permitted to start up a new one.

Normally generally speaking they get closed when a mod thinks they're big enough could be anywhere between 3000-5000 posts really. When it's decided to close the thread, those posting in the Chat thread usually decide amongst themselves who will start the new one and it's started pretty much as soon as the old one is closed

The reason they get closed when they get too big is that bigger threads can slow the forum a bit I think

Ok that's good to know, thanks Niamh. You know if they're closed because of arguing though, and we can't set up a new one... when do new ones get set up after that, and is it only mods/staff that are able to do it?

[Will.]

Niamh kindly explained to me some of it on VM today after my chat thread got closed.

I sort of get it but at the same still a little confused.

[Niamh.]

Originally Posted by Jamie89

Ok that's good to know, thanks Niamh. You know if they're closed because of arguing though, and we can't set up a new one... when do new ones get set up after that, and is it only mods/staff that are able to do it?

A new one gets started when the mod who closed the original one decides. In that case they may just open the old one

[Niamh.]

Originally Posted by Will1999

Niamh kindly explained to me some of it on VM today after my chat thread got closed.

I sort of get it but at the same still a little confused.

What exactly is confusing you Will?

[Will.]

Originally Posted by Niamh.

What exactly is confusing you Will?

The whole when you can open one.

So if a new one can be made, the mods will post in a previous chat thread saying they we can make one?

[Jamie89]

Originally Posted by Niamh.

A new one gets started when the mod who closed the original one decides. In that case they may just open the old one

Ok thanks

Originally Posted by Will1999

The whole when you can open one.

So if a new one can be made, the mods will post in a previous chat thread saying they we can make one?

I think what Niamh's saying is that if they're closed for arguing then it's the mods discretion and we can't intervene, we can only start our own if they're closed due to the length of them.

[Niamh.]

Originally Posted by Will1999

The whole when you can open one.

So if a new one can be made, the mods will post in a previous chat thread saying they we can make one?

You'll be told when you can make one, it's not that hard to follow really

[Will.]

Originally Posted by Jamie89

Ok thanks



I think what Niamh's saying is that if they're closed for arguing then it's the mods discretion and we can't intervene, we can only start our own if they're closed due to the length of them.

Yeah that's what confused me,

I thought the cabin was closed because of the length, I didn't realise it was arguing as I only looked at the last 2 pages.

And I thought that if it was closed because of arguing a mod would have wrote at the end of the thread.

But then Josy commented like 4 pages behind.

[Jamie89]

Actually, just another question sorry Niamh. You know if there is arguing in the chat thread (which hardly ever happens lol ) could you not just give warnings or infractions to the people arguing instead of closing the chat thread for everyone?

[Josy]

I closed the chat threads last night because I clearly posted in the thread that if it ended up closed it's not getting reopened, the arguments and reports from there continued so it's closed.

Its the same people that ruin it for everyone constantly.

[Will.]

Originally Posted by Josy

I closed the chat threads last night because I clearly posted in the thread that if it ended up closed it's not getting reopened, the arguments and reports from there continued so it's closed.

Its the same people that ruin it for everyone constantly.

Yeah,

See I looked at the last page and there wasn't any arguing, I wasn't present on the chat thread when Jason and Adam were arguing.

And I didn't see your comment lol until Niamh said you posted like 4 pages behind

If I had red the previous pages then I wouldn't have made a new chat thread.

[Jamie89]

Originally Posted by Josy

I closed the chat threads last night because I clearly posted in the thread that if it ended up closed it's not getting reopened, the arguments and reports from there continued so it's closed.

Its the same people that ruin it for everyone constantly.

I understand, I noticed you'd posted that last night. I was asking more generally really though about the rules because like I say I couldn't find any info on it and was just curious. Would it not be an idea though, if it's just certain people who are ruining it, to give out warnings instead? And then the threads can stay open for everyone else?

[Jessica.]

I think she already banned/infracted people. I would advise just waiting it out, there might be a new thread and might not, threads about it won't actually help the cause.

[Josy]

Originally Posted by Jamie89

I understand, I noticed you'd posted that last night. I was asking more generally really though about the rules because like I say I couldn't find any info on it and was just curious. Would it not be an idea though, if it's just certain people who are ruining it, to give out warnings instead? And then the threads can stay open for everyone else?

No because warnings and infractions are being ignored too much and arguing continues between different members when the others get banned.

We wont spend all of our time dealing with rule breaks and petty arguing between members in there constantly, so until members are able to use those threads without arguments, cliques and thinking they have the right to dictate who is allowed to post in them and who isn't then that specific one will remained closed.

The other one will be reopened at some point.

[Jamie89]

Originally Posted by Jessica.

I think she already banned/infracted people. I would advise just waiting it out, there might be a new thread and might not, threads about it won't actually help the cause.

Just to say again though lol, I didn't make this thread to ask specifically about last night. I just wanted to know the general rules etc because I couldn't find them. I was going to message the mods to ask but thought if I post a thread then other people who might not know what the rules are could also find it useful.

[Ammi]

..would a fixed 1 day ban/regardless of infractions... or something like that after a warning has been given, be something worth considering as an option...

[Will.]

I'm just wanted to say sorry for causing you hassle Josy and Niamh with me making a chat thread.

[Benjamin]

Ban all chat threads

[Jamie89]

Originally Posted by Josy

No because warnings and infractions are being ignored too much and arguing continues between different members when the others get banned.

We wont spend all of our time dealing with rule breaks and petty arguing between members in there constantly, so until members are able to use those threads without arguments, cliques and thinking they have the right to dictate who is allowed to post in them and who isn't then that specific one will remained closed.

The other one will be reopened at some point.

Ok that's fair enough, thanks. I wasn't trying to be awkward or anything. Just trying to get a handle on the way it works is all.

Maybe we should have an argument thread called 'outside', so if tension builds, people can 'take it outside'. Ok, that was a bad joke obvs *groan*

[Josy]

Originally Posted by Ammi

..would a fixed 1 day ban/regardless of infractions... or something like that after a warning has been given, be something worth considering as an option...

Possibly need to end up doing something like this yeah.

We are already going to be giving out higher infraction points (this was decided the other day by James) due to members not really taking infraction seriously enough and continuing to rule break. Which is a shame really because regardless of what some may think we don't enjoy banning people but if that's the way it has to be to stop certain members disrupting the forum or ruining it for others then so be it.

[Ammi]

Originally Posted by Jamie89

Ok that's fair enough, thanks. I wasn't trying to be awkward or anything. Just trying to get a handle on the way it works is all.

Maybe we should have an argument thread called 'outside', so if tension builds, people can 'take it outside'. Ok, that was a bad joke obvs *groan*

..u wanna take this outside m8..eh, eh...