[arista]

Now Trump
is not the USA President.


So its Barrack - who has set this up.

This Family [The group of 11, including nine children] say they got online approval
(Better to go to the USA Embassy to get a stamped
passport, I did)

The Family going to their brothers in California
were going to Disney with their Kids.
The £9,000 Holiday will not be refunded.

This is Barrack Obama doing this
with HIS UK Homeland Security Division at the USA Embassy - who never give interviews

http://news.sky.com/story/1611036/us...-dream-holiday


Sign Of The Times

[Ammi]

"It's because of the attacks on America - they think every Muslim poses a threat."


...we don't know for sure though because no one seems to have been told any reasons yet so it's waiting for more to be known on this...I wonder why the mums weren't going on what was such a special holiday and over Christmas time.../poor mums...

[arista]

Originally Posted by Ammi

"It's because of the attacks on America - they think every Muslim poses a threat."


...we don't know for sure though because no one seems to have been told any reasons yet so it's waiting for more to be known on this...I wonder why the mums weren't going on what was such a special holiday and over Christmas time.../poor mums...

Yes it could be the Brother in California
thats dodgy.


If you are a Muslim
get in line at the USA Embassy
who will stamp your passport with a Visa
as they van meet you in person,
Its worth spending half a day to get it Official.

[Ammi]

...I hope they get it sorted out and are able to go...but yeah, the children are from 8yrs old, I would be heartbroken to not be going with them, seeing their faces at Disneyworld at Christmas time etc and that whole magic, if I were their mum...such a special time and experience for our children...

[arista]

Originally Posted by Ammi

...I hope they get it sorted out and are able to go...but yeah, the children are from 8yrs old, I would be heartbroken to not be going with them, seeing their faces at Disneyworld at Christmas time etc and that whole magic, if I were their mum...such a special time and experience for our children...

Of Course it will not be
they have lost their 9K
and the kids can cry
and thank him

[Ammi]

[arista]

Fantastic. Ammi

[Mystic Mock]

I don't agree with Obama on this one I'm afraid.

[kirklancaster]

Originally Posted by Ammi

Genius.

[Northern Monkey]

Maybe the brother has done something dodgy or the father or the mother in their past.We just don't know yet.America is probably still on terror alert after the recent attack.If stopping people who could have had possible contact with Islamists saves even one life then it is worth it.

[arista]

Originally Posted by Northern Monkey

Maybe the brother has done something dodgy or the father or the mother in their past.We just don't know yet.America is probably still on terror alert after the recent attack.If stopping people who could have had possible contact with Islamists saves even one life then it is worth it.

Yes he said on Radio 5
his brother is in Los Angeles.

He was not told why his name came up.


The USA Embassy London
are better if you go there and speak to them
worth the ques

[arista]

Originally Posted by Father Mockmas

I don't agree with Obama on this one I'm afraid.

He is Protecting Americans
but who would think what Trump said
Barrack would enforce


Sad Day for honest Hard Working Good Muslims


9K it cost them

[lostalex]

does anyone else think it's a bit odd they were going on a long vacation with just the 2 dads and 9 kids?? where are the mothers?

So far there's no information why they were turned away, the Guardian sure is making a meal of it though.

[Livia]

Originally Posted by lostalex

does anyone else think it's a bit odd they were going on a long vacation with just the 2 dads and 9 kids?? where are the mothers?

So far there's no information why they were turned away, the Guardian sure is making a meal of it though.

Agreed. We don't know the whole story.

[billy123]

[smudgie]

Perhaps they might think of letting the mothers go next time, might not look as dodgy

[dojo88]

Shocking!!! This is complete and utter discrimination!!!!

The US needs to be softer with their borders and NOT ban whoever THEY think "threatens" the safety of their country!!!

Imagine paying 9 grand for a family holiday to America and arriving at the airport and being told you can't get on the flight, If that happened to me, I would be SO humiliated and disgusted!!!!

They should instead focus on the GENUINE terror threats NOT just handpick random people who THEY think are terrorists!!

The US MUST stop this embarrassing procedure because this is just inhumane and disgusting!!!

WTF happened to EQUAL RIGHTS and EQUALITY?????

[Vicky.]

What a ****ing disgrace that they will not be refunded.

We have not enough info to comment on the refused entry part. America is very strict with who it lets in tbh. Mind its a bit strange that they were granted visas, and then refused? Maybe told a white lie on applying for the visa

[dojo88]

Originally Posted by Vicky.

What a ****ing disgrace that they will not be refunded.

We have not enough info to comment on the refused entry part. America is very strict with who it lets in tbh. Mind its a bit strange that they were granted visas, and then refused? Maybe told a white lie on applying for the visa

Yes, you're right and I think that they should be much more lenient with who can enter the USA!!

I think it is just an absolute bloody disgrace that they can ban whomever they wish to, and unfortunately that can mean INNOCENT people, that is completely wrong and unethical!! ONLY BAN THE GENUINE TERROR THREATS!!!!!

These idiots should get their act together, do their jobs properly and focus only on those who are trying to enter the country illegally, banning innocent people from entering the USA should stop because they don't realise that THEY are embarrassing not only the innocent people they ban but themselves as well.

[lostalex]

Originally Posted by Vicky.

What a ****ing disgrace that they will not be refunded.

We have not enough info to comment on the refused entry part. America is very strict with who it lets in tbh. Mind its a bit strange that they were granted visas, and then refused? Maybe told a white lie on applying for the visa

not really, we take in more people than almost any other country. I think only France has more foreign visitors per year than the US.

[Vicky.]

Originally Posted by lostalex

not really, we take in more people than almost any other country. I think only France has more foreign visitors per year than the US.

By this I mean even for a holiday you need to be pre-cleared..not anything against it. Just that its well known that it is more paperwork and such to have a holiday in America than most other places

[Vicky.]

Originally Posted by dojo88

Yes, you're right and I think that they should be much more lenient with who can enter the USA!!

I think it is just an absolute bloody disgrace that they can ban whomever they wish to, and unfortunately that can mean INNOCENT people, that is completely wrong and unethical!! ONLY BAN THE GENUINE TERROR THREATS!!!!!

These idiots should get their act together, do their jobs properly and focus only on those who are trying to enter the country illegally, banning innocent people from entering the USA should stop because they don't realise that THEY are embarrassing not only the innocent people they ban but themselves as well.

I think its a good idea, personally

You don't know who is a genuine terror threat anyway, how would you?

[kirklancaster]

I think it wise to let the full facts emerge before throwing out accusations such as 'Racist' and 'Discrimination' in outraged knee-jerk reaction.

I am not saying that this unfortunate family have done anything wrong, or that a system which allows them to get as far as they did, then stops them is not a faulty one, but only that it is folly to rant and level accusations of 'Racism' at members until the full picture emerges.

To me - and my faulty old logical mind - it is the very fact that this family in particular have been stopped out of - - presumably -- hundreds of other USA bound Muslims which suggests that maybe, just maybe, the multi-billion dollar American Security Services, and perhaps, their British counterpart, might just have some very valid reasons for this seemingly outrageous action.

Further - and I am NOT saying this is the case here - if me and my mate were about to travel from the UK to the USA to link up with US domiciled covert Jihadists to bring Christmas misery and tragedy to unsuspecting innocent civilians -- taking our children as cover is EXACTLY what I would do.

Closer to home, wily shoplifters use their little tots as cover to shoplift.

I just think - as in the 'so-called' case of the snotty city type in the CK suit ordering a dust covered builder in his work clothes to let him have his seat on the tube, some of these news items are not what they first appear.

[dojo88]

Originally Posted by Vicky.

I think its a good idea, personally

You don't know who is a genuine terror threat anyway, how would you?

I respectfully disagree...

Banning someone from entering the USA for no reason whatsoever is completely cruel and unethical (especially towards children) and needs to stop. America is WAY too protective of their borders.

This is a clear breach of human rights and must stop immediately. Hearing news like this just makes me so sick in the stomach!! I wish this rubbish could stop!!!

[arista]

Originally Posted by lostalex

does anyone else think it's a bit odd they were going on a long vacation with just the 2 dads and 9 kids?? where are the mothers?

So far there's no information why they were turned away, the Guardian sure is making a meal of it though.

The Mothers Protect the Homes from Burglers
in England

He got permission Online
but once there he and all the Family were Stopped
just before boarding