[joeysteele]

Originally Posted by ~Sam~

No it wasn't, he just repeated the same **** he's said before and I don't know why you've chosen a horrible homophobic quote to be placed in your sig

I don't think he said anything of note in the whole speech.
No wonder most walked away, had he said he was wrong to even just tolerate the word abuse as to gay adoption, that would have been a start.

I agree with you, he was just saying the same with no retractions or even any great understanding as to others feelings.
In fact it came across more like he was attempting justifying the way and what he had said in the quote.

[GiRTh]

Originally Posted by ThriceShy

It is something he said to Brian Dowling before being thrown out of hell's kitchen for homophobia.

Still dont get it. What was he referring to and why do you think its such a killer quote that you've put it in your signature.

[ThriceShy]

Originally Posted by MrWong

No they don't and as the survey is a few years old they support your position even less now as bigoted views die out.

According to the best stats we have that one of your lads posted, 31% of the country specifically oppose gay adoption.

In light of that, why is Winston being treated like he is?

Hint: The correct answer is that channel 5 want controversy and ratings.

[MrWong]

Originally Posted by ThriceShy

Nobody. His views have been welcomed with open ears. He is loved and still in the house.

So nobody has stopped him speaking.

Bit of an irrelevant rant then really.

[Mitchell]

Originally Posted by ThriceShy

According to the best stats we have that one of your lads posted, 31% of the country specifically oppose gay adoption.

In light of that, why is Winston being treated like he is?

Hint: The correct answer is that channel 5 want controversy and ratings.

I can bet that the majority of those 31% don't compare it to child abuse.

[ThriceShy]

Originally Posted by GiRTh

Still dont get it. What was he referring to and why do you think its such a killer quote that you've put it in your signature.

It is the contrast between him and Winston.

Winston has been treated like a pariah for giving a view on gay adoption. But Jim Davidson won BB and was feted by Emma and Rylan, despite the fact that he was kicked out of hell's kitchen for homophobic abuse of brian dowling.

I don't know how I can explain it in any simpler terms.

[ThriceShy]

Originally Posted by Mitchell

I can bet that the majority of those 31% don't compare it to child abuse.

They might not have specifically articulated those words but they obviously think it is wrong or unhealthy in some way.

[AProducer'sWetDream]

Originally Posted by ThriceShy

According to the best stats we have that one of your lads posted, 31% of the country specifically oppose gay adoption.

In light of that, why is Winston being treated like he is?

Hint: The correct answer is that channel 5 want controversy and ratings.

Opposing gay adoption is acceptable (although an incredibly outdated view that I strongly disagree with). Likening it to child abuse is disgusting and offensive, and that is why people have reacted so negatively to Winston's despicable attitude.

[ThriceShy]

Originally Posted by MrWong

So nobody has stopped him speaking.

Bit of an irrelevant rant then really.

So you are fine with people expressing such views. Glad we got that sorted.

We can move on now.

[Mitchell]

Originally Posted by ThriceShy

They might not have specifically articulated those words but they obviously think it is wrong or unhealthy in some way.

Thats their opinion, I strongly disagree with them, but thats their views, what I have the biggest problem with is that he compared it to child abuse, CHILD ABUSE.

[ThriceShy]

Originally Posted by Mitchell

Thats their opinion, I strongly disagree with them, but thats their views, what I have the biggest problem with is that he compared it to child abuse, CHILD ABUSE.

Child abuse is a catch-all term. I perhaps wouldn't have chose those words in a public arena. But I stand by my view that a child not having a mother is not an ideal healthy situation.

To deliberately place a child in a motherless family is not the healthiest thing for the child.

[Mitchell]

Originally Posted by ThriceShy

Child abuse is a catch-all term. I perhaps wouldn't have chose those words in a public arena. But I stand by my view that a child not having a mother is not an ideal healthy situation.

To deliberately place a child in a motherless family is not the healthiest thing for the child.

I actually think putting a child in an environment where their parental figures have views like these is overwhelmingly more damaging.

[letmein]

Winston who?

Signed,

Everyone everywhere tomorrow

[Glenn.]

Originally Posted by ThriceShy

Child abuse is a catch-all term. I perhaps wouldn't have chose those words in a public arena. But I stand by my view that a child not having a mother is not an ideal healthy situation.

To deliberately place a child in a motherless family is not the healthiest thing for the child.

Are you actually a troll? This is the most ridiculous post I have ever read on here.

[parmnion]

It was ****e.

[GiRTh]

Originally Posted by ThriceShy

It is the contrast between him and Winston.

Winston has been treated like a pariah for giving a view on gay adoption. But Jim Davidson won BB and was feted by Emma and Rylan, despite the fact that he was kicked out of hell's kitchen for homophobic abuse of brian dowling.

I don't know how I can explain it in any simpler terms.

Oh I see. Its to show the irony of how JD was treated in HElls Kitchen as opposed to CBB.

[MrWong]

Originally Posted by ThriceShy

I suspect his view is shared by at least 50% of the population. He has done nothing personally wrong to anyone.

Originally Posted by ThriceShy

According to the best stats we have that one of your lads posted, 31% of the country specifically oppose gay adoption.

In light of that, why is Winston being treated like he is?

Hint: The correct answer is that channel 5 want controversy and ratings.

So no where near the 'at least 50%' claim then. That 31% will only get smaller as archaic views die out.

Did they compare it to child abuse?

[parmnion]

Originally Posted by MrWong

So no where near the 'at least 50%' claim then. That 31% will only get smaller as archaic views die out.

Did they compare it to child abuse?

Obviously people are not going into muslim communities with their clip boards.

[ThriceShy]

Originally Posted by MrWong

So no where near the 'at least 50%' claim then. That 31% will only get smaller as archaic views die out.

Did they compare it to child abuse?

Did you miss the words "I suspect" in my original post?

31% is still a huge number of people. In fact it is about 20 million people. Boy, Emma will have her work cut out telling them all off. What a brave little soldier she is.

Why don't you ask them if they compare it to child abuse?

[ThriceShy]

Originally Posted by parmnion

Obviously people are not going into muslim communities with their clip boards.

This is an important point. 100% of muslims think homosexuality is wrong and it is entirely based on their religion.

But the bizarre irony is that Christians aren't allowed to believe it in a Christian country but muslims are.

In fact, this presents a bit of a dilemma for the leftists because they are programmed to defend muslims but what if someone criticises muslims for hating gays? Will the leftists explode?

[Ant.]

ThriceShy would post such bull****

[MrWong]

Originally Posted by ThriceShy

So you are fine with people expressing such views. Glad we got that sorted.

We can move on now.

So he was prattling on about free speech for no reason.

The speech was a load of bollox. He rambled on about being brash and bold, being a black English man, the **** about free speech and something about men in the army. He finished by asking for no one to judge him.

[lewis111]

Originally Posted by ThriceShy

This is an important point. 100% of muslims think homosexuality is wrong and it is entirely based on their religion.

But the bizarre irony is that Christians aren't allowed to believe it in a Christian country but muslims are.

In fact, this presents a bit of a dilemma for the leftists because they are programmed to defend muslims but what if someone criticises muslims for hating gays? Will the leftists explode?

No one said what people can and can't belive though? It's the fact he compared it to CHILD ABUSE that's the main issue.
I'm sure if that card about him said "is against same sex adoption" the outrage would be much smaller. Most people aren't annoyed by his belife but his ridiculous ideas about it

[ThriceShy]

Originally Posted by MrWong

So he was prattling on about free speech for no reason.

The speech was a load of bollox. He rambled on about being brash and bold, being a black English man, the **** about free speech and something about men in the army. He finished by asking for no one to judge him.

Is that why leftists hate him? Because he is in a minority (black) but still dares have an opinion about another minority?

Starting to make sense this.

[lewis111]

But yea his speech was ridiculous he asked for 15 mins of questions then answered none of them just talked about his soul