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The X Factor 2016 [S13] Series 13 in 2016 of ITV's music reality show, won by Matt Terry. |
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04-04-2016, 11:26 PM | #51 | ||
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Also millions (albeit a few) of people don't tune in to see Dermot presenting. They also don't give a toss about who is judging. |
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04-04-2016, 11:26 PM | #52 | ||
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The reason for it? The drastic, irreparable changes they made to the panel. It has never recovered. It is one thing having Simon leave, another having two, but replacing three judges from a golden era of the show with one irrelevance, another that's not that huge in the UK and then Gary Barlow is really asking for trouble - and it proved disastrous I'm sure you'll say 'well Louis was still on the panel' and tbqh he was probably one of the only saving graces of those series but this is proof of how much the panel is important to the show. There's no logical reason why one series can perform so fantastically and the next not, unless you make such huge changes to the faces of the show |
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04-04-2016, 11:28 PM | #53 | ||
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Whether people acknowledge it or not, X Factor is entirely drama, judge driven. It can make or break a series, and yes people do subconsciously care about it And as last year proved, if there isn't someone who can steer the show competently, it falls apart and becomes a laughing stock. Dermot is important |
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04-04-2016, 11:28 PM | #54 | ||
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But as you've just pointed out, Louis Walsh isn't the golden dust of the panel. The show will continue to decline this year with or without because after 12-13 years the show has already given us everything it has to offer. Even American Idol knows it's time to call it a day. Last edited by Marsh.; 04-04-2016 at 11:28 PM. |
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04-04-2016, 11:28 PM | #55 | |||
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@Jack Honestly I think people are sick of the forced 'drama' and that has what has actually killed the show. People liked and appreciated Dannii because she took the job seriously and was a breath of fresh air on the judges panel. If there was more judges who were serious about finding a credible artist who can forge a career outside of one single then the show might be able to rise again. Having Louis being a clown isn't going to do anything to save the show.
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04-04-2016, 11:31 PM | #56 | ||
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Yeah, I'm sorry, but the novelty of Louis' inane comments wore off about six years ago.
'You look like a little Luther Vandross" "You owned t'stage" "You look like a pop star, you sound like a pop star" were funny and amusing the first maybe ten times. Now it's just sad. Last edited by Marsh.; 04-04-2016 at 11:31 PM. |
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04-04-2016, 11:31 PM | #57 | ||
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On catchup I fast forward every part of dermot talking because he bores me to tears I fast forward all of the judges comments because they bore me to tears. Because its the same every year. Same **** just different assholes producing it |
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04-04-2016, 11:31 PM | #58 | |||
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I grew tired of Louis' rehearsed saving of the joke act in the sing off
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04-04-2016, 11:32 PM | #59 | |||
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I can't @ Dannii being labelled boring in the same post as wanting Nicole "Shamazinger" back. She was a catchphrase that was never funny in the first place and lived off her acts' charisma to make up for her lacking.
Dannii/Louis/Rita/Simon will do nicely
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04-04-2016, 11:32 PM | #60 | ||
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I can appreciate why people like Dannii, I'm not even saying I dislike her...but I really, really don't think the vast majority of casual viewers care about her now on her own without the rest of the golden era panel. And I'm not going to make any comparisons to The Voice this series because I don't actually know how it performs ratings wise these days but certainly in the early series its terrible format and more ~serious~, credible nature wasn't helping it one bit. People want entertainment, that is what X Factor is. It has never been a genuine talent competition with music integrity and I don't know why people try to pretend it is On the bolded point though: X Factor constantly produces acts with longevity, in comparison to The Voice that's barely had any successful artists from it Last edited by Jack_; 04-04-2016 at 11:33 PM. |
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04-04-2016, 11:34 PM | #61 | ||
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I agree with Jordan.
You can apply the same statement to Big Brother. People get bored of forced drama. |
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04-04-2016, 11:34 PM | #62 | |||
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I've changed my mind I want Simon-Nicole-Dannii-Louis sorry Sharon
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04-04-2016, 11:34 PM | #63 | |||
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It's nothing to do with the panel... People are sick of the same thing every year and lack of artists making a career from the show, which is the whole concept.
Yes Louis causing an argument and getting media attention might bring in some interest but it doesn't save the fundamental problem of the show failing to deliver what it's purpose is. Last edited by Jordan.; 04-04-2016 at 11:38 PM. |
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04-04-2016, 11:36 PM | #64 | |||
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04-04-2016, 11:37 PM | #65 | ||
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I want the show dead.
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04-04-2016, 11:41 PM | #66 | ||
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It has everything to do with the panel, or else how do you explain 2010's series finishing with an average of 13m viewers per episode to 2011's finishing with 10m? Or a 19m peak for the final compared with 15m? Where the hell do 3-4m viewers go in the space of a year when the show was at its peak? That is not normal: it is primarily driven by the irreparable, drastic changes they made to the well-loved panel.
I'd disagree that the show doesn't still produce successful artists either; Ella Henderson, Little Mix and Fleur have all had varying degrees of it since their series and they were all part of the 2011 onwards generation. The Voice has produced little if no talent whatsoever outside of the show yet it's still on air and people are still watching so how do you explain that? |
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04-04-2016, 11:43 PM | #67 | ||
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Jack do you work for X factor?
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04-04-2016, 11:43 PM | #68 | ||
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04-04-2016, 11:43 PM | #69 | ||
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Because NO show is going to keep those numbers. It happens and then people have seen it, the novelty has gone. Lightning doesn't strike twice and it's not as if it was a massive exodus of viewers it was gradual.
It's like BB peaking with BB3 in 2002. Last edited by Marsh.; 04-04-2016 at 11:44 PM. |
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04-04-2016, 11:46 PM | #70 | ||
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The BB comparison is different because it was followed with...BB4. In this case S7 was followed by S8 which culled 3/4 of the iconic judges |
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04-04-2016, 11:47 PM | #71 | |||
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Nah to the ah to the no, no, no
My name is no My sign is no My number is no You need to let it go You need to let it go Need to let it go Nah to the ah to the no, no, no My name is no My sign is no My number is no You need to let it go You need to let it go Need to let it go Nah to the ah to the no, no, no |
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04-04-2016, 11:50 PM | #72 | ||
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Just as no matter what series followed BB3, it wasn't going to continue at its peak. It's a one off. It increased from 2009, it didn't stay the same. Then it came back down to its same old average. Last edited by Marsh.; 04-04-2016 at 11:51 PM. |
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04-04-2016, 11:57 PM | #73 | |||
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As for the voice comparison that's never created stars or been as big as XF so people just take it for what it is, I'm sure the ratings aren't too good on that either. |
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05-04-2016, 12:49 AM | #74 | |||
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I actually agree with almost everyone in some part. I think a bit of everything is wrong with the show.
I don't perticularly like Dermot but he was well received by viewers and I think his departure will have made some turn off, Olly was embarrassing last year. Cheryl was dull and gave the impression she was there for the money and didn't care about her acts last year so she can go. I hope Sharon doesn't come back though. They need decent talent and to get rid of the repetitive themes too.
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05-04-2016, 08:06 AM | #75 | |||
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I don't wanna dance
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