[Shaun]

I think I may have mentioned in passing once that she was getting a Pauline edit but more in terms of her launch popularity on here (fanclub before she was revealed) and maaaaaaaassive downturn in popularity in reality. Like I get the protestations about "another angry black woman edit" but I didn't see anything like that said about Lateysha yesterday? but w/e idc

[Marsh.]

Originally Posted by Northern Monkey

If some people think they're alike then why can't they state that opinion?

You can't have an opinion on minorities otherwise it's bigotry, do you not understand that?

[Oaker]

welp I dread to think what Paulines fan club was like. Did it lose all it's members in 48 hours?

[Jason.]

Originally Posted by MB.

If you saw no comparison whatsoever then you surely wouldn't see the need to make a thread comparing them

I only made the thread because there were a lot of posts last night and in the past week or so actually, comparing the two and people saying they're alike. Like I said, I see no comparison - they're both different. But I wanted to see what other people thought hence the poll.

[Macie Lightfoot]

Originally Posted by LukeB

Yeah

Davonne is sassy, great talker and entertaining (could go on)
Zakiyah is the opposite of that.

totally different people.

Zakiyah openly talks about how she hates authority and she hates being told what to do and if there's one thing that will get her in trouble it's her mouth *KINDA* like how Da'Vonne's got her in trouble last year.

Anyway, jokingly calling her Night'Vonne is more of a "I have absolutely no faith that BBUS can cast black girls and portray them differently from one another" thing than a "I think Da'Vonne and Zakiyah are the exact same person" thing.

[Marsh.]

Originally Posted by Oaker

welp I dread to think what Paulines fan club was like. Did it lose all it's members in 48 hours?

http://www.thisisbigbrother.com/foru...d.php?t=251636

[Headie]

Originally Posted by Shaun

I think I may have mentioned in passing once that she was getting a Pauline edit but more in terms of her launch popularity on here (fanclub before she was revealed) and maaaaaaaassive downturn in popularity in reality. Like I get the protestations about "another angry black woman edit" but I didn't see anything like that said about Lateysha yesterday? but w/e idc

Bye you tried snatching her fanclub on Launch Night tho

[Captain.Remy]

Originally Posted by Jason.

I didn't even mention race at all in my post - I was just talking about both housemates in general.

And can people please stop throwing around the 'B' word so easily. Like say what you want about Natalie, whether you like her or not, she hasn't bullied anyone. She didn't constantly pick on one person and try to isolate them or exclude them. She just didn't get a long with two people and she clashed with them - the feeling was mutual. It's like saying Charley was a bully cause she kept arguing with Chanelle.

Helen Wood, Conor, Pauline, Alexandra - those are textbook examples of bullies on BB. I don't really see how Natalie behaved like any of those that I've just mentioned.

Each to their own though

Both of what they said in the house was uncalled for and too extreme. Pauline was the definition of a bully when it came to Jale.
Natalie kept talking people down and was unreasonable. Still going on about Hughie and Jayne. She was literally obsessed with them. She's a grown woman and in no way shape or form what she did in there was right.
Being a bully is not always arguing with the other one, it's all the behaviour that comes next to it. Like whenever Jayne or Hughie were talking (not even to her), she couldn't help but roll her eyes or make sleazy comments.

And she felt terrible when Emma checked her tonight during the interview, like she wanted to talk about something else all of a sudden when all she did was being obsessed with both of them 24/7. She is miserable.

[Northern Monkey]

Originally Posted by Marsh.

You can't have an opinion on minorities otherwise it's bigotry, do you not understand that?

Oh yeah shet,I forgot where i was for a second there.

[Oaker]

Originally Posted by Marsh.

http://www.thisisbigbrother.com/foru...d.php?t=251636

everyone leaving on day 3

[MojoNixon]

Originally Posted by Oaker

welp I dread to think what Paulines fan club was like. Did it lose all it's members in 48 hours?

Not everyone. Example, Hayden, Vanessa, Heaven = Winner and reece(: did stay as her faithful follower. And many other. Wonder why these bullies always getting popular.

http://www.thisisbigbrother.com/foru...d.php?t=251636

[Shaun]

Originally Posted by Hayden

Bye you tried snatching her fanclub on Launch Night tho

And it clearly ended up going REALLY WELL FOR ME

[reece(:]

Originally Posted by Marsh.

http://www.thisisbigbrother.com/foru...d.php?t=251636

Lmao, iconic!

[Oaker]

idk why but I like looking at the fan clubs where a housemate started out popular and then ended up hated, it's funny to see when their downfall was .

[reece(:]

Natalie's launch popularity was nothing on the scale of Pauline's

[MojoNixon]

Originally Posted by reece(:

Lmao, iconic!

Yeah, you did not leave her fan club. Stayed loyal to that bully to the end.

[MB.]

Pauline was last in after one identikit person in a suit after another whilst Natalie was shunted in halfway through without a VT - had Natalie been given a proper entrance and hyped as much as Pauline, I'd guess things might have been a little different

[Macie Lightfoot]

I mean, I feel like even the benevolently racist people saw Pauline's VT and were like "okay, but she's gonna end up being awful, right?" and they were proven right in like three days.

[LukeB]

Originally Posted by reece(:

Natalie's launch popularity was nothing on the scale of Pauline's

this is true, Pauline was one of the favourites to win and was loved by the public... Natalie was only loved on forums.

[BB-J*I*N*X]

both horrible end of

[Marsh.]

Originally Posted by LukeB

this is true, Pauline was one of the favourites to win and was loved by the public... Natalie was only loved on forums.

Originally Posted by MB.

Pauline was last in after one identikit person in a suit after another whilst Natalie was shunted in halfway through without a VT - had Natalie been given a proper entrance and hyped as much as Pauline, I'd guess things might have been a little different

.

[MB.]

Pauline also benefited from going in with eight other people, whereas Natalie went in with seventeen

[reece(:]

Originally Posted by MojoNixon

Yeah, you did not leave her fan club. Stayed loyal to that bully to the end.

Give over acting like these HMs are criminals, I'm not ashamed in enjoying Pauline as a HM as I'm sure there are many who enjoyed Helen/Marc for their own reasons

[Jason.]

Originally Posted by Captain.Remy

Both of what they said in the house was uncalled for and too extreme. Pauline was the definition of a bully when it came to Jale.
Natalie kept talking people down and was unreasonable. Still going on about Hughie and Jayne. She was literally obsessed with them. She's a grown woman and in no way shape or form what she did in there was right.
Being a bully is not always arguing with the other one, it's all the behaviour that comes next to it. Like whenever Jayne or Hughie were talking (not even to her), she couldn't help but roll her eyes or make sleazy comments.

And she felt terrible when Emma checked her tonight during the interview, like she wanted to talk about something else all of a sudden when all she did was being obsessed with both of them 24/7. She is miserable.

Then by that logic, aren't Jayne and Hughie also bullies because they gave just as good as they got and they often said some said some uncalled for things or went extreme - I mean Jayne did get in Natalie's face and threaten to 'annihilate' her the other night. I'm not screaming bully though because I don't think she is whatsoever.

And ffs since when did an eye-roll constitute as bullying now? Seriously, I hope you haven't seen series like BB6 or BB13 because if you think an eye-roll is bullying then there was practically murder in BB13.

She was just argumentative and rude imo. You're throwing around the B word - but there hasn't even been complaints in regards to how her behaviour can be perceived as bullying like Helen and Conor had.

And maybe she didn't want to talk about Jayne or Hughie in her interview because she didn't want to spend her whole time talking about people she disliked or her negative parts - she even asked Emma if she was going to ask her stuff about her friendship with Alex because all they'd been talking about is Jayne and Hughie.

We're obviously not going to agree so let's just agree to disagree on this one

[MojoNixon]

Originally Posted by reece(:

Give over acting like these HMs are criminals, I'm not ashamed in enjoying Pauline as a HM as I'm sure there are many who enjoyed Helen/Marc for their own reasons

You seem to love all of em bullies. I did not like Helen or Marc either.