[Patricia4]

Originally Posted by Drew.

He has his own views and opinions on things and 90% of the time he's right. Most of the people in there are on a different planet to him, why should he listen?

I agree and I would talk over people if I was in there with some of them idiots.

[Yaki da]

Originally Posted by azi

He's just stubborn and think he's always right and smarter than everyone else.

And likes letting them feel that, which he knows full well they will react angrily to.

[Jan S]

Originally Posted by hot2go

I'm an Andy fan and I don't think I'm more intelligent, I know I'm intelligent, more than some not as much as others, but I don't think anything, I know myself.

anyone would think being reasonably smart is:

a) something to hide
b) something that, should you let it slip out, you must immediately apologise for and appear humble
c) something best dumbed down because it makes others feel uncomfortable



*sighs*

[jet]

Originally Posted by Jan S

anyone would think being reasonably smart is:

a) something to hide
b) something that, should you let it slip out, you must immediately apologise for and appear humble
c) something best dumbed down because it makes others feel uncomfortable



*sighs*

[Yaki da]

Originally Posted by Jan S

anyone would think being reasonably smart is:

a) something to hide

It's not something you rub other people's faces in either.

b) something that, should you let it slip out, you must immediately apologise for and appear humble

Treating people in a smug manner is not the same as letting your intelligence slip out.

c) something best dumbed down because it makes others feel uncomfortable

*sighs*

No one wants him to dumb himself down. They just want him to stop being such an insufferably pompous arsehole.

[hot2go]

Originally Posted by Jan S

oh boy

I know none more blind than those who refuse to see

Maybe there's cross wires and we've been actually watching a different show

[jet]

Originally Posted by Yaki da

It's not something you rub other people's faces in either.



Treating people in a smug manner is not the same as letting your intelligence slip out.



No one wants him to dumb himself down. They just want him to stop being such an insufferably pompous arsehole.

I know, you want him to yell and screech, be rude, run around with his shirt off and gossip behind peoples backs. Principles are old hat and something to be despised. I get ya!

[Vicky.]

Originally Posted by Jan S

anyone would think being reasonably smart is:

a) something to hide
b) something that, should you let it slip out, you must immediately apologise for and appear humble
c) something best dumbed down because it makes others feel uncomfortable



*sighs*

Being thick is the new 'in' thing. The likes of Joey Essex are applauded ffs...its apparently 'endearing' to have nothing between the ears (or pretend to have nothing, which is even worse)

[Yaki da]

Originally Posted by jet

I know, you want him to yell and screech, be rude, run around with his shirt off and gossip behind peoples backs. Principles are old hat and something to be despised. I get ya!

Don't want him to do anything of the sort. I already told you what I want... For him to stop being an insufferably pompous arse. This is unlikely though because it seems to just be in his nature.

[Yaki da]

Originally Posted by Vicky.

Being thick is the new 'in' thing. The likes of Joey Essex are applauded ffs...its apparently 'endearing' to have nothing between the ears (or pretend to have nothing, which is even worse)

Nothing to do with it. No one has a problem with intelligent housemates. They have a problem with pompous self righteous pricks.

[vesavius]

Originally Posted by Yaki da

He's not calm and reasonable at all. He's snide and passive aggressive and knows how to wind the others up before than playing the victim.

Indeed.

[Jan S]

Originally Posted by Yaki da

It's not something you rub other people's faces in either.



Treating people in a smug manner is not the same as letting your intelligence slip out.



No one wants him to dumb himself down. They just want him to stop being such an insufferably pompous arsehole.

we're never going to agree on this subject.

how do you feel he is rubbing people's faces in it?

smug is a case of personal inference - i'm not seeing smg when it comes to him. long-suffering, patient and incredibly controlled? yes.

they want him to not exist in the house. they don't like the mirror he holds up to their attitudes and behaviour just be being himself. if he shouted and pranced about, threw food and wore next to nothing, got off his head on drink and drama,he'd be warmly welcomed as one of their own.

[Yaki da]

Long suffering. LOL

[jet]

Originally Posted by Yaki da

Don't want him to do anything of the sort. I already told you what I want... For him to stop being an insufferably pompous arse. This is unlikely though because it seems to just be in his nature.

Yeah, you've said that many times already. Can I eat my bran flakes now please?

[joeysteele]

He likely ends up talking over them after listening a while but realising they are talking nonsense to him near all the time.
Why should he be bothered with or respect anyone doing that.

[vesavius]

Being intelligent is fine, of course, but it's what other traits you surround that intelligence with that counts. If you use your intelligence to be a judgmental **** stirrer, then of course that's not a good thing.

Is Andy condescending, smug, patronising, and all the rest?

Well, yeah, of course he is.

[Jan S]

Originally Posted by Vicky.

Being thick is the new 'in' thing. The likes of Joey Essex are applauded ffs...its apparently 'endearing' to have nothing between the ears (or pretend to have nothing, which is even worse)

the tv producers are to blame for exploiting people like him to make money, paying them as celebrities for a limited shelf-life after which they get discarded and spend the rest of their lives chasing tv appearances and cultivating substance abuse/emotional/psychological issues they should be celebrating people who've achieved something - whether it's becoming a doctor, an astronaut, an author, a scentist, an athlete - rather than just someone on tv because they've hair extensions, false boobs, fake tans, and will do anything for tv exposure and regular trips to sugar hut.

[Jan S]

Originally Posted by jet

Yeah, you've said that many times already. Can I eat my bran flakes now please?

how very dare you be so passive-aggressively smug-faced arsey?

[hot2go]

Originally Posted by Jan S

anyone would think being reasonably smart is:

a) something to hide
b) something that, should you let it slip out, you must immediately apologise for and appear humble
c) something best dumbed down because it makes others feel uncomfortable



*sighs*

It's sad ......people celebrate being thick ...it's a modern trend....even in the office task they promoted the housemate who kicked off and didn't work ...being stupid is rewarded so much that when someone isn't impressed by it that person gets attacked...it's inverted snobbery....Andy judges them on their appalling behaviour not their position in life but they judge him completely on how academic he is.....for all the shouting and drama and puffing out of the chests that some of them do, the person they are most scared of is Andy.
Lateysha says she's got no GCSEs like it something to be proud of, like its something she's not responsible for.....she's wears her Vulger and course personality like a badge of honour ...Andy represents everything they failed at but that's no reason he should feel ashamed of that or should have to sink to their level....he can't bring them to his level, they will only pull him down to theirs, he's waiting his time trying to reason with morons.

[jet]

Originally Posted by joeysteele

He likely ends up talking over them after listening a while but realising they are talking nonsense to him near all the time.
Why should he be bothered with or respect anyone doing that.

Yes Joey, you can sense that he's so frustrated at being misunderstood and criticised yet he tries so hard to keep his cool and his dignity - and he does an amazing job of it.
When you look at Laytesha and Chelsea losing their heads over trivialities like pancakes, in comparison Andy's composure under personal attack in is even more admirable.

[parmnion]

Originally Posted by Jan S

we're never going to agree on this subject.

how do you feel he is rubbing people's faces in it?

smug is a case of personal inference - i'm not seeing smg when it comes to him. long-suffering, patient and incredibly controlled? yes.

they want him to not exist in the house. they don't like the mirror he holds up to their attitudes and behaviour just be being himself. if he shouted and pranced about, threw food and wore next to nothing, got off his head on drink and drama,he'd be warmly welcomed as one of their own.

Hes not god though and cant complain when he gets called oit when he is disecting evryones personality himself.

[RavenleFey]

I don't see him as smug at all. He listens and puts his point across in a calm and dignified manner. And he shows moments of kindness like talking to Evelyn before and after the evictions.

[Jan S]

Originally Posted by Yaki da

Long suffering. LOL

so??? how do you feel he's rubbing people's faces in it?

[jet]

Originally Posted by Jan S

how very dare you be so passive-aggressively smug-faced arsey?

Yeah, Andy can't win, can he?

[Jan S]

Originally Posted by parmnion

Hes not god though and cant complain when he gets called oit when he is disecting evryones personality himself.

i'm failing to see anyone, least of all andy (whom i see as a very nice, normal person of reasonable intellect), thinking he's godlike

gawd, i need to type something i can smug-emote to