[Ashley.]

Originally Posted by Withano

This isnt a joke though. This is the most serious thing to ever happen in the history of the entire world ever ever.

Well yeah it was pretty serious...

[Greg!]

He's an absolute embarrassment. Such a sanctimonious arsehole I can't stand him

[Vicky.]

This article made it sound so serious but nothing prepared me for the hilarity of actually seeing this meltdown in action

This for me has to be at least a contender for best BB meltdown ever. Screw your fake Nikki rants and such...this beats that rubbish hands down

[rusticgal]

Originally Posted by Jake.

took it a tad too seriously but so soon after he got engaged he no doubt thought they were mocking him

I agree.... I think this is what really got to him. He thought they were taking the piss out of his engagement (and deep down I believe they were).
I can understand him feeling uncomfortable with it because it meant so much between him and Ed.... So instead of maybe staying quiet he deflected the situation by making it about the moral issue which then made it all seem very 'deep' and a little over the top.
I think he really felt his engagement was being ridiculed...

[Vicky.]

Originally Posted by rusticgal

I agree.... I think this is what really got to him. He thought they were taking the piss out of his engagement (and deep down I believe they were).
I can understand him feeling uncomfortable with it because it meant so much between him and Ed.... So instead of maybe staying quiet he deflected the situation by making it about the moral issue which then made it all seem very 'deep' and a little over the top.
I think he really felt his engagement was being ridiculed...

Yeah I think this too tbh. But he couldn't actually say this (as one can't be honest, one must make things out to be 100x worse than they are) and I expect the rubbish he was coming out with instead made sense to him at the time

[Northern Monkey]

I think had they actually got engaged it would've been 10 times worse for him but he would've had to hide it and pretend to be pleased for them.I think he got so upset because for a moment he actually believed them and it would have taken all the positive attention away from him.

[Marsh.]

My ring represents all of the people who’ve wanted to wear this ring before

[Jan S]

Originally Posted by hot2go

They're part of a generation that has no experience of how hard it used to be to be gay....they can only learn that by reading about it and these two have prob never read a book in their lives ....they have a freedom to be who they are and have no appreciation of why that is possible ....in their ignorance they are ungrateful....they're so stupid they prob can't be blamed but it is ugly to watch and not just this piss take engagement, in lots and lots of other ways too.

absochuffinlutely

always been the way - just look at the fight commoners and then women had to be enfranchised and how now so many people don't bother voting as they can't be arsed!

people arguing over a subject with correlations they didn't even see *sighs*

Originally Posted by hot2go

And now the highly unintelligent audience on BOTS will agree with them

yup

Originally Posted by hot2go

And of course Rylan finds sham gay relationships funny, he's in one.

why do you think that? genuine question since i only know they are married, not their circumstances.

[camertone]

ryan and hughie will do anything to focus cameras on them.. they make gays look bad..

[hot2go]

Originally Posted by Jan S

why do you think that? genuine question since i only know they are married, not their circumstances.

Rylans husband was in a long term relationship while in the BB house and was very vocal of the love he felt for the guy....Rylans husband had been on various reality shows prior to BB and had a hunger to be famous...Rylans husband came across on the show as being sly and self serving and Disingenouos ...Rylans husbands partner said that when they were together he had repeatedly said he couldn't stand Rylan Clark..
Then he left the BB house, immediately dumped his partner and got together with Rylan.....now Rylans used his influence and cheek to get his husband on daytime TV.....result, back of the net.....but I think Rylan has scored a home goal because as soon as his husband becomes famous in his own right he will be gone faster then sh-t off a shovel.

[Jan S]

Originally Posted by hot2go

Rylans husband was in a long term relationship while in the BB house and was very vocal of the love he felt for the guy....Rylans husband had been on various reality shows prior to BB and had a hunger to be famous...Rylans husband came across on the show as being sly and self serving and Disingenouos ...Rylans husbands partner said that when they were together he had repeatedly said he couldn't stand Rylan Clark..
Then he left the BB house, immediately dumped his partner and got together with Rylan.....now Rylans used his influence and cheek to get his husband on daytime TV.....result, back of the net.....but I think Rylan has scored a home goal because as soon as his husband becomes famous in his own right he will be gone faster then sh-t off a shovel.

aw, that's a shame. he sounds awful

a broken-hearted rylan won't be pretty.

[jet]

Originally Posted by rusticgal

I agree.... I think this is what really got to him. He thought they were taking the piss out of his engagement (and deep down I believe they were).
I can understand him feeling uncomfortable with it because it meant so much between him and Ed.... So instead of maybe staying quiet he deflected the situation by making it about the moral issue which then made it all seem very 'deep' and a little over the top.
I think he really felt his engagement was being ridiculed...

I agree that he felt his engagement was being mocked, but I think there was more to it than that. I think the mockery brought out deeper issues within him, like those that cost him his job over the stance he took about Tyson Fury.

As I posted in another thread regarding Ed's interview on BOTS:

ED also made the point very strongly in his own words that
"you don't ever mess with Andy when it comes to gay rights"

He referred to the Tyson Fury thing and said he told Andy to let it go, but he wouldn't and he left the job he'd had for 8 years and loved because of it.

He said he and Andy were complete opposites and that is why they work so well together.

So I think it was a combination of feeling they were mocking him and his obviously passionate feelings about gay rights - and also because he has had a hard time in there...and Jason understood more about what was happening and we never got to hear. Jason is a true friend to him, bless him.
I felt for Andy tonight. I like him so much and feel bad for him.

[Shaun]

So basically you agree that Andy is projecting his own hang-ups onto everyone else and is totally unwilling to hear people out. Good.

[jet]

Originally Posted by Shaun

So basically you agree that Andy is projecting his own hang-ups onto everyone else and is totally unwilling to hear people out. Good.

No, not good. Nobody likes to be mocked and a passion for gay rights is no 'hang - up'. I applaud him for not being willing to compromise on his beliefs. 100%!

[arista]

azi

He Can.

But No one can take the piss of gays
in Front of him.

He is Like a Gay Political Copper

Should he go on a TV debate show, Later on outside the house - NO
will he - YES


Sign Of the Times

[Ammi]

Originally Posted by hot2go

They're part of a generation that has no experience of how hard it used to be to be gay....they can only learn that by reading about it and these two have prob never read a book in their lives ....they have a freedom to be who they are and have no appreciation of why that is possible ....in their ignorance they are ungrateful....they're so stupid they prob can't be blamed but it is ugly to watch and not just this piss take engagement, in lots and lots of other ways too.

..do you honestly feel that Hughie would have no sense of 'how hard it was to be gay' with his environment of being in a travelling community where I would think that it was most definitely not be cool to be gay...I would say that he probably has a much greater sense of 'suppression' through experience than Andy has... but he just doesn't carry it around like a mantle because that's not his game...(and also Andy is of the same generation..)...

[jennyjuniper]

Originally Posted by Jake.

took it a tad too seriously but so soon after he got engaged he no doubt thought they were mocking him

As they were.

[arista]

".(and also Andy is of the same generation..)..."


No thats wrong Ammi
Andy has worked hard at the BBC and Got sacked

Hughie is a mummys boy
not sure if he has had proper work?>


FACTS

[jennyjuniper]

Originally Posted by hot2go

They're part of a generation that has no experience of how hard it used to be to be gay....they can only learn that by reading about it and these two have prob never read a book in their lives ....they have a freedom to be who they are and have no appreciation of why that is possible ....in their ignorance they are ungrateful....they're so stupid they prob can't be blamed but it is ugly to watch and not just this piss take engagement, in lots and lots of other ways too.

I agree. I feel a bit the same way when some women say they can't be bothered to vote. When I think what women had to go through to get the vote in the first place.

[Ammi]

..so it changes the generation that you're born into then..if you've had a job..interesting FACTS, Arista...

[arista]

Originally Posted by Ammi

..so it changes the generation that you're born into then..if you've had a job..interesting FACTS, Arista...

As a Wise Teacher
you would know this.

[Ammi]

...ooo, I got a shower in that time it took to reply, how speedy am I this morning Arista...anyways, I'm no more or no less 'wise' then anyone else, Arista...and I think there lies the thing with Andy...he has been fortunate enough to have had privileges and advantages in his education that many others have not had and I would say that Hughie hasn't had for sure...but rather than be 'wise' with those in his consideration of others and their environments, he uses them to judge people...a very much 'not wise' person, I would say...

[Ammi]

..I'm going to dry me 'air now Arista, just so that you know...

[Ammi]

...cos that's the wise thing to do with wet and towel wrapped hair...

[arista]

Originally Posted by Ammi

...ooo, I got a shower in that time it took to reply, how speedy am I this morning Arista...anyways, I'm no more or no less 'wise' then anyone else, Arista...and I think there lies the thing with Andy...he has been fortunate enough to have had privileges and advantages in his education that many others have not had and I would say that Hughie hasn't had for sure...but rather than be 'wise' with those in his consideration of others and their environments, he uses them to judge people...a very much 'not wise' person, I would say...

No you are a Level Up
a Teacher
Stop Putting in Yourself Down
Madame