[*mazedsalv**]

Went from a joke to weddings...to slavery, stoning to death and people being thrown off buildings?

Pathetic.

It was probably the most far fetched I have ever seen a discussion actually stretch to. It's like me jokingly punching my black mate and then bring told by someone else 'HOW DARE YOU INFLICT SLAVERY EMOTIONS AS A JOKE'.

I think it was a ploy for Andy to come across as the best PC gay person ever.

Ed even said on BOTS he would have found it funny and that he over exaggerated.

I still can't believe it.

[StephenPullen]

The whole situation was absolutely asinine. I mean, wow. Andy is the biggest POS in the house.

[Vicky.]

It was just utterly bizarre

It reminded me (slightly) of BB5..there was a food fight and someone started bleating on about starving kids in Africa.

Except with this, there was literally NO relevance at all between what Andy was saying and what had happened. I guess there is a bit of a connection between wasting food and starving kids..

But again, only on BB. THIS is why I love the show

[Headie]

It's funny when a black person plays "the race card" they're dragged to hell and back on here, but when a white gay man plays the "gay card" it's just dismissed as 'oh well everyone was baiting him so it's justified x'

I don't get it

[rusticgal]

I think he saw it as a put down of his engagement to Ed....he thought it was belittling his special moment... he thought the joke was on him because he really didn't believe they were serious. He didn't want to make it about him so he sold the bigger picture...which kind of went a bit too deep and it all got a bit out of hand...

[Amy Jade]

It was seriously quite disturbing how he tried every which way to make himself the victim yet again, he humiliated himself tonight

I also thought Hughie made a fantastic point, why wasnt Andy outraged when Sam and Emma did the same as him and Ryan? seems to me he was just looking for an excuse to make himself look good but it backfired and his tears were frustration and desperation to claw back sympathy from the public.

[*mazedsalv**]

Originally Posted by Vicky.

It was just utterly bizarre

It reminded me (slightly) of BB5..there was a food fight and someone started bleating on about starving kids in Africa.

Except with this, there was literally NO relevance at all between what Andy was saying and what had happened. I guess there is a bit of a connection between wasting food and starving kids..

But again, only on BB. THIS is why I love the show

Agree with both. LOL at BB5, I loved that.

First of all, even forgetting about the fact Andy was silly and made a stupid comparison, but his comparison doesn't even ring true in this country and never has.

So not just was it pathetic, but it made no sense whatsoever to automatically connect a law from a different country into a conversation in the UK about a joke.

I just don't get the "trail", I have no idea how he automatically got to that point of comparison. It's so far fetched. It's like me saying I am good with kids and someone telling me i should be hung because I'm a peadophile.

That's how bizzare it was.

[hot2go]

Hughie and Ryan and immature little idiots and I can't wait to see the back of them

[Vicky.]

Originally Posted by rusticgal

I think he saw it as a put down of his engagement to Ed....he thought it was belittling his special moment... he thought the joke was on him because he really didn't believe they were serious. He didn't want to make it about him so he sold the bigger picture...which kind of went a bit too deep and it all got a bit out of hand...

Indeed. In all honesty, I wouldn't be surprised if the whole fake engagement was a laugh at Andys expense...

However, the breakdown and delivery was amazing, ridiculous and so odd, whatever the reason for it.

[*mazedsalv**]

Originally Posted by Amy Jade

It was seriously quite disturbing how he tried every which way to make himself the victim yet again, he humiliated himself tonight

I also thought Hughie made a fantastic point, why wasnt Andy outraged when Sam and Emma did the same as him and Ryan? seems to me he was just looking for an excuse to make himself look good but it backfired and his tears were frustration and desperation to claw back sympathy from the public.

And is Andy was to get annoyed at that stuff, why wasn't he offended by Sam's "bum boys" comment towards Ryan and Hughie.

[Vicky.]

Originally Posted by *mazedsalv**

Agree with both. LOL at BB5, I loved that.

First of all, even forgetting about the fact Andy was silly and made a stupid comparison, but his comparison doesn't even ring true in this country and never has.

So not just was it pathetic, but it made no sense whatsoever to automatically connect a law from a different country into a conversation in the UK about a joke.

I just don't get the "trail", I have no idea how he automatically got to that point of comparison. It's so far fetched. It's like me saying I am good with kids and someone telling me i should be hung because I'm a peadophile.

That's how bizzare it was.

Yeah I can't really connect the dots either. I expect it made sense somehow in his head at the time though or else there would be NO reason at all for any of the theatrics I just cannot make it make sense at all no matter which way I try to look at it

A really really weird situation/show/reaction.

[Klingonz]

Originally Posted by Hayden

It's funny when a black person plays "the race card" they're dragged to hell and back on here, but when a white gay man plays the "gay card" it's just dismissed as 'oh well everyone was baiting him so it's justified x'

I don't get it

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[Jordan.]

Originally Posted by Hayden

It's funny when a black person plays "the race card" they're dragged to hell and back on here, but when a white gay man plays the "gay card" it's just dismissed as 'oh well everyone was baiting him so it's justified x'

I don't get it

Like 90% of people disagreed with him though?

[Vicky.]

Originally Posted by Jordan.

Like 90% of people disagreed with him though?

I don't think I have seen even one person say it was justified...

[jet]

Originally Posted by *mazedsalv**

Went from a joke to weddings...to slavery, stoning to death and people being thrown off buildings?

Pathetic.

It was probably the most far fetched I have ever seen a discussion actually stretch to. It's like me jokingly punching my black mate and then bring told by someone else 'HOW DARE YOU INFLICT SLAVERY EMOTIONS AS A JOKE'.

I think it was a ploy for Andy to come across as the best PC gay person ever.

Ed even said on BOTS he would have found it funny and that he over exaggerated.

I still can't believe it.

He also made the point very strongly in his own words that
"you don't ever mess with Andy when it comes to gay rights"

He referred to the Tyson Fury thing and said he told Andy to let it go, but he wouldn't and he left the job he'd had for 8 years and loved because of it.

He said he and Andy were complete opposites and that is why they work so well together.

Imo it is people who are that passionate about gay rights who have achieved hard earned gay rights.

[andybigbro]

Originally Posted by Hayden

It's funny when a black person plays "the race card" they're dragged to hell and back on here, but when a white gay man plays the "gay card" it's just dismissed as 'oh well everyone was baiting him so it's justified x'

I don't get it

Everybody has basically said Andy was wrong

[Headie]

Originally Posted by andybigbro

Everybody has basically said Andy was wrong

Nope I've seen a fair few posts on here saying "Hughie & Ryan were clearly baiting Andy and he had every right to be annoyed" etc. I just don't see how.

[Headie]

Originally Posted by Jordan.

Like 90% of people disagreed with him though?

Originally Posted by Vicky.

I don't think I have seen even one person say it was justified...

I'm don't wanna link specific posts because it'll cause arguments for sure But you can see at least 3 or 4 people in the episode discussion thread, the "who was in the right" thread, and all the Andy threads etc who are saying his reaction was a result of "baiting", suggesting it made his reaction more ok.

[Headie]

Originally Posted by Klingonz

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And the point you're making is...?

[Klingonz]

Originally Posted by Hayden

And the point you're making is...?

Seems like you have some anger issues against gays

[Drew.]

Originally Posted by Klingonz

Seems like you have some anger issues against gays

I don't think hes saying that lol

[Klingonz]

Originally Posted by Drew.

I don't think hes saying that lol

I ment that lotsa american blacks does hate gays. I did not wanna bring it out like that, but it is true.

[Jordan.]

Originally Posted by Hayden

I'm don't wanna link specific posts because it'll cause arguments for sure But you can see at least 3 or 4 people in the episode discussion thread, the "who was in the right" thread, and all the Andy threads etc who are saying his reaction was a result of "baiting", suggesting it made his reaction more ok.

Your post made it seem like everyone was dismissive of his comments when it's quite the opposite. I'm guessing anyone defending him are fans or just dislike Ryan/Hughie, I don't think it's really an issue.

[Klingonz]

Meaning that Hayden did bring the black vs gay thing out.

[Amy Jade]

Originally Posted by Klingonz

Seems like you have some anger issues against gays