[ThriceShy]

Originally Posted by Marsh.

Nobody's stopping him having his opinion. He still has it.

People are simply pointing out how illogical and inaccurate it is.

....In their opinion.

See how this works?

Without proof of something, your opinion is precisely as valid as his.

[Marsh.]

Originally Posted by ThriceShy

In the absence of actual proof.

I demand we get Dezzy on a lie detector test to settle this once and for all.

[Marsh.]

Originally Posted by ThriceShy

....In their opinion.

See how this works?

Without proof of something, your opinion is precisely as valid as his.

I know bisexual people who enjoy having sex with both men and women.

That makes my opinion more valid than a gay men saying he thinks bisexuals are actually closeted homosexuals based on him being a gay man who married a woman to hide the fact he was gay.

[Marsh.]

It's an improvement on BB17, which isn't saying much I grant you.

[ThriceShy]

Originally Posted by Marsh.

I know bisexual people who enjoy having sex with both men and women.

That makes my opinion more valid than a gay men saying he thinks bisexuals are actually closeted homosexuals based on him being a gay man who married a woman to hide the fact he was gay.

You don't know what their real thoughts and feelings are. Neither does Biggins. He just has an opinion on it. Yours differs. Time to build a bridge and get over it.

[ThriceShy]

Originally Posted by Marsh.

It's an improvement on BB17, which isn't saying much I grant you.

[Marsh.]

Originally Posted by ThriceShy

You don't know what their real thoughts and feelings are. Neither does Biggins. He just has an opinion on it. Yours differs. Time to build a bridge and get over it.

So therefore we can't prove anyone is anything.

They could be lying. I bet French people aren't real, they're just putting on that stupid accent as a prank.

[Marsh.]

Originally Posted by ThriceShy

You agree? Oh, crumbs.

[ThriceShy]

Originally Posted by Marsh.

So therefore we can't prove anyone is anything.

They could be lying. I bet French people aren't real, they're just putting on that stupid accent as a prank.

There are lots of things we can prove. If you think you have proof showing biggins to be wrong then post it.

[Mystic Mock]

Originally Posted by ThriceShy

He isn't making any logical points or deductions. He just feels that bisexuals aren't being honest. Let him have his opinion in this free country.

And people can judge him for it in this free country.

[ThriceShy]

Originally Posted by Withano

Is Thriceshy a genuinely confused child or an adult who skipped sex ed classes?

I'm not gonna argue about something that has a wrong and right answer any longer. If its a troll, its hopeless, if its an adult, they're clearly too ignorant for this conversation, if its a child its best to let them learn inside their school.

Prove biggins wrong. Or just admit your opinion differs from his.

At this point you need to do one of them.

[Marsh.]

Originally Posted by ThriceShy

There are lots of things we can prove. If you think you have proof showing biggins to be wrong then post it.

Bisexual people existing proves him wrong.

Again, a gay man pretending to be straight is no "experience" that can feed any form of accurate opinion about bisexuals.
If that were the case bisexuals would all be claiming to be straight.

[ThriceShy]

Originally Posted by Mystic Mock

And people can judge him for it in this free country.

I completely agree.

[Withano]

Originally Posted by ThriceShy

Prove biggins wrong. Or just admit your opinion differs from his.

At this point you need to do one of them.

You're refusing to accept millions of voices as proof, you refuse to acknowledge a definition of a word as proof, youd probably refuse any number of the thousands of scientific, sociological and psychological academic papers based on bisexuality as proof, youd refuse to believe a real life bisexual person telling you that they get boners to both men and women as proof..

you dont know what kind of proof you want, how would anybody else?

[ThriceShy]

Originally Posted by Withano

You're refusing to accept millions of voices as proof, you refuse to acknowledge a definition of a word as proof, youd probably refuse any number of the thousands of scientific, sociological and psychological academic papers based on bisexuality as proof, youd refuse to believe a real life bisexual person telling you that they get boners to both men and women as proof..

you dont know what kind of proof you want, how would anybody else?

Could you post some of these? Preferably one's that completely refute Biggins' assertion.

Thanks.

[Withano]

Originally Posted by ThriceShy

Could you post some of these? Preferably one's that completely refute Biggins' assertion.

Thanks.

http://www.jstor.org/stable/pdf/1395...n_tab_contents

http://psycnet.apa.org/psycinfo/1996-98960-000

https://books.google.co.uk/books?hl=...uality&f=false

http://psycnet.apa.org/journals/dev/44/1/5/

http://link.springer.com/article/10....1542119#page-1

https://books.google.co.uk/books?hl=...uality&f=false

http://journals.lww.com/psychosomati...cept_of.7.aspx

Theres a good days worth of reading there, all of which was found with one single google search, something you should have done before arguing about something you clearly know nothing about. But you asked for academic papers that proved you wrong. Here it is. A days worth of reading, you're welcome. See you in a day.

[ThriceShy]

Originally Posted by Withano

http://www.jstor.org/stable/pdf/1395...n_tab_contents

http://psycnet.apa.org/psycinfo/1996-98960-000

https://books.google.co.uk/books?hl=...uality&f=false

http://psycnet.apa.org/journals/dev/44/1/5/

http://link.springer.com/article/10....1542119#page-1

https://books.google.co.uk/books?hl=...uality&f=false

http://journals.lww.com/psychosomati...cept_of.7.aspx

Theres a good days worth of reading there, all of which was found with one single google search, something you should have done before arguing about something you clearly know nothing about. But you asked for academic papers that proved you wrong. Here it is. A days worth of reading, you're welcome. See you in a day.

Can you just quote the conclusions that refute what Biggins said? It would save me all that time.

Or have you simply dumped the first few studies that google gave you, without reading them yourself?

[Withano]

Carry on refusing to accept evidence because you're opinion is that the entire world around you is wrong. You look great. Anyway read literature or carry on having a debate on a subject you have clearly never researched. I'm not here to entertain you anymore.

[ThriceShy]

Originally Posted by Withano

Carry on refusing to accept evidence because you're opinion is that the entire world around you is wrong. You look great. Anyway read literature or carry on having a debate on a subject you have clearly never researched. I'm not here to entertain you anymore.

You haven't read a word of those papers you linked to, have you?

No wonder you are beating such a hasty retreat.

[Withano]

Originally Posted by ThriceShy

You haven't read a word of those papers you linked to, have you?

No wonder you are beating such a hasty retreat.

Its 3am, I'm going to sleep you should do the same... Yes I've read all those papers. Not that it matters, you requested papers that proved you wrong, they're there..? Or are you refusing to accept them as evidence because in your opinion, the world is wrong and you are right.. Refusing evidence is predictable of somebody who understands they're wrong but doesn't want to accept it. But sure get the last comment in because thats how winning arguments work on the internet. Good luck with secondary school.

[Marsh.]

Originally Posted by ThriceShy

You haven't read a word of those papers you linked to, have you?

No wonder you are beating such a hasty retreat.

You asked him for those links.

[Jamie89]

Originally Posted by Withano

Opinions exist, obviously. but if its your opinion that 2+2=6 then youre an idiot.

Facts exist too, something you dont understand. Ignoring a fact because you have an opinion which opposes the fact makes you an idiot.

Originally Posted by Marsh.

Bisexual people existing proves him wrong.

Again, a gay man pretending to be straight is no "experience" that can feed any form of accurate opinion about bisexuals.
If that were the case bisexuals would all be claiming to be straight.

Great point!

[Ammi]

Originally Posted by Marsh.

Bisexual people existing proves him wrong.

Again, a gay man pretending to be straight is no "experience" that can feed any form of accurate opinion about bisexuals.
If that were the case bisexuals would all be claiming to be straight.

..yeah it's basically this really...he didn't pull on any personal experiences of people he had known in his life when he made the generalisation..he incorporated all bi-sexuality and more or less saying that it didn't exist and it does, that's not something that is opinion and never will be, so really dumb and (yes ignorant even..)..and age is no excuse because his age should be something that actually would make him less ignorant in a time that he has felt such prejudices back in the day...*launches into an Andy speech of the struggles of sexuality and how far we're meant to have come and at what cost...?..*...and then along came Biggins in the house ...

[camertone]

Originally Posted by Yaki da

He's against gay marriage as well. He's an old fashioned homosexual

this..

[sampvt]

Biggins is a superstar in his own mind and very old fashioned to boot. He is confused with the Miriad of tags and titles hung on people these days. You are either gay or straight and that's where it ends for him. Bi sexual people just drag his theory down so he slaps it. His views and in a way he's right. If you are neither gay nor straight you must be confused and he probably views bi s as sickos looking for sex from what ever source is available and he isn't a sexually orientated gay. He's an old queen who wants gays to be viewed as the same as straights so he isn't far off point.