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Old 06-08-2016, 01:51 PM #251
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Big Brother UK ‏@bbuk · 46m46 minutes ago

We can confirm that a transcript claiming to relate to Christopher Biggins' removal from the #CBB house is 100% fake
good, at least that means he's not lost total control of his marbles
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you know, that's one of the scariest things i've seen here
No it's not at all.
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Celebrity Big Brother 2016: 'Shocking chat' behind Biggins removal is a FAKE http://www.tellymix.co.uk/reality-tv...oval-fake.html via @tellymix
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No it's not at all.
so you condone the notion that people cannot have an opinion

wow

have you never read george orwell? and even if you haven't...

just

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it'd make me smile if biggins had got the boot because he knew he wouldn't win and so discarded any pretense in the house and gave a loud, ott, nero-esque speech telling them all exactly what he thought of them and rounding it off nicely by calling them all a bunch of *******s.

i'd have to give him some props for that.

but i suppose reality's way more boring
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so you condone the notion that people cannot have an opinion

wow

have you never read george orwell? and even if you haven't...

just

wow
You can't really have opinions on whether or not a sexuality exists. It's a fact that bisexuality is real. It's like saying that the sky isn't blue but is orange with purple polka dots, It just isn't and justifying a false ideal by saying it's an opinion doesn't change the facts.

Facts are indisputable.

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Lauren retweeted this. The man has a history of being an ignoramus. I'm glad he's gone.

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You can't really have opinions on whether or not a sexuality exists. It's a fact that bisexuality is real. It's like saying that the sky isn't blue but is orange with purple polka dots, It just isn't and justifying a false ideal by saying it's an opinion doesn't change the facts.

Facts are indisputable.
i do not dispute facts

the fact remains that people have opinions. it is human nature and why we have wars. you CANNOT police opinions. you CANNOT tell people not to think.

opinions can be wrong, and - if voiced - can enlighten/horrify/shock/surprise/delight depending on the person listening. it's vital that people expose and share opinions, because then the laws of nature follow through where others holding alternate opinions may bebate/deride/applaud what's being aired. in an ideal world, when people express an opinion most find 'wrong-headed' there will be counter-argument that can sway or correct that opinion, or at least make it known that such an opinion is so wrong people will refuse to condone it.

you cannot shut down opinions just by saying people cannot have them. and that goes for everything, not just sexuality.

opinions may change over time - is this not true? if it wasn't, homosexuals would still be comitting a criminal offence just by being homosexual. people of colour would still be used as slaves, and women would still be at home most the time looking after their husbands and children and maybe getting a little 'pin money' to allow them to buy something pretty to make them more attractive to their husbands.
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if it weren't for people expressing opinions, my m2f transexual daughter would still be expected to go through her life as a man, probably get married in order to be a parent, and live her entire life as a lie.

opinions ******ing matter!
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You can't really have opinions on whether or not a sexuality exists. It's a fact that bisexuality is real. It's like saying that the sky isn't blue but is orange with purple polka dots, It just isn't and justifying a false ideal by saying it's an opinion doesn't change the facts.

Facts are indisputable.
But what are the facts? The sexual attraction of an individual to both sexes is bisexuality: that's a fact. However, that doesn't mean you can't discuss the impact of bisexuality and the notion of being bi. Cara Delevingne, one very high profile person who has identified as bisexual, a year ago said that she rejected her parent's view that her sexuality was 'a phase' she would grow out of. The implication was that she was 'bisexual' and it was forever, and it made her happy. Last week she said “I’m obviously in love, so if people want to say I’m gay, that’s great. But we’re all liquid – we change, we grow.” and “I believe in gender fluidity and sexual fluidity. I don’t really identify as anything.” She seems utterly oblivious to the contradiction.
There is a massive trend in people expressing gender or sexuality in terms of 'fluidity'. I t all sounds like some hippy nirvana. Meanwhile conservative Christians are given ammunition in their quest to 'cure' homosexuality.
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I don't wish to pick a fight, but yes I think you are. I agree his comment was ridiculous, but Biggins is simply an un-PC luvvie with some old fashioned mistaken ideas. Why on earth should anyone be offended. Feel sorry for him, cross him off your Christmas card list or whatever, but are you so precious that you need to take offence, and does our society have to keep drifting in the direction of oppressive punishment for the smallest of thought crimes? If you aren't impressed by this argument, be aware that in 40 or 50 years time some of your beliefs today might have become a thought crime too. In the absence of freedom of speech, the shoe might be on the other foot then.
A) I presume you aren't bisexual and as such aren't in a position to comment on what is and isn't derogatory about bisexuals. "The worst ones" isn't really open for discussion, it wasn't an enlightening open to a conversation - not that we were privy too anyway - it was dismissing us as indecisive, flippant or an obstacle to the LGBT movement. Renee's comment of "pick a side" is wildly ridiculous when LGBT kinda contains the ****ing B word itself.
B) It's not oppressive punishment. He broke a private TV show's rules and was ejected.
and C) I don't know you but congrats, I think you're a twat too <3
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https://www.thesun.co.uk/tvandshowbi...ick-nazi-joke/

Apparently he made a "shocking AIDS comment" and a "sick Nazi joke". I'll wait 'till I see it to believe it though.
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