[Withano]

Originally Posted by ThriceShy

So biggins being misinformed about AIDS as a gay man is worse than someone spitting in someone's food?

You have jumped the shark.

Whether bear would snog her or not is irrelevant. She should be booted for the sentiment alone, never mind the actual physical implications.

Is it ok for bear to spit in her food as she would probably snog him?

I completely understand my opinions in the minority, i stated that before. It just doesnt phase me. I know youre looking for an argument. Im not gonna give it ya, i know most people think its gross i just.. Meh. As for biggins meh. I can take or leave the lot of them.

Think theres a strong argument either way for one being worse than the other but for me personally, meh. I dont care.

[ThriceShy]

Originally Posted by Withano

I completely understand my opinions in the minority, i stated that before. It just doesnt phase me. I know youre looking for an argument. Im not gonna give it ya, i know most people think its gross i just.. Meh. As for biggins meh. I can take or leave the lot of them.

Think theres a strong argument either way for one being worse than the other but for me personally, meh. I dont care.

Minimising spitting in food with the "oh he would snog her anyway" is equivalent to excusing rape because "she would probably sleep with him anyway."

I notice you accept your opinion is in the minority but you are allowed to express it. So why not extend that courtesy to biggins and accept that he has his own opinion.

[Withano]

Originally Posted by ThriceShy

Minimising spitting in food with the "oh he would snog her anyway" is equivalent to excusing rape because "she would probably sleep with him anyway."

I notice you accept your opinion is in the minority but you are allowed to express it. So why not extend that courtesy to biggins and accept that he has his own opinion.

You're tiring.

[ThriceShy]

Originally Posted by Withano

You're tiring.

I have good points you can't refute.

[Withano]

You have a lot of spare time and a lot of silly arguments

[ThriceShy]

Originally Posted by Withano

You have a lot of spare time and a lot of silly arguments

The bit in bold is rather an odd thing to say as you joined this site after me and yet you have 3 times the number of posts I do.

So if I have a lot of time then you must have a LOT of time.

[letmein]

Originally Posted by ThriceShy

The only unaired one is the one related to jews that he said to Katie. I reckon that will probably be pretty mild but they know how much people kick off about antisemitism.

And rightfully so.

[Cherie]

Originally Posted by Alf

We haven't seen the evidence to be able to forget.

it sounds like he said it as a joke, bit tasteless but no malicious intent, Katie seems super sensitive

[camertone]

Originally Posted by ThriceShy

A gay man makes some controversial remarks about bisexuals and AIDS and is ejected.

Meanwhile a woman actually spits in someone's food and drink, possibly risking infecting him with various diseases, and yet she stays.

It is inexcusable.

some footage is too offensive, so bb decided not to show them.

[Xanzia]

He's not a bigot, he's a Biggins of Big End, and I suppose he's off to Mt. Doom to throw the rest of his public reputation away.

[MrWong]

As the celebs queued up to use the shower in the morning, Biggins allegedly said to The X Factor singer: "You had better be careful or they will put you in a shower or take you to a room!"

Ugh. He's ****ing awful.

[MrWong]

Originally Posted by johne

Yes, perhaps we'll never know what it was, but if it had been in yer face antisemitic, a big no no on TV, I'm sure they would have kicked him out back then so I conclude it probably wasn't.

Turns out that he made an antisemitic comment to Katie and BB didn't give a **** until 4 days later. Looks like they wanted to cover it up at first.

[chuff me dizzy]

Originally Posted by ThriceShy

A gay man makes some controversial remarks about bisexuals and AIDS and is ejected.

Meanwhile a woman actually spits in someone's food and drink, possibly risking infecting him with various diseases, and yet she stays.

It is inexcusable.

Totally agree

[ThriceShy]

Originally Posted by MrWong

Turns out that he made an antisemitic comment to Katie and BB didn't give a **** until 4 days later. Looks like they wanted to cover it up at first.

That remark (and I am disappointed in you taking a tabloid's word as gospel) is not in any way antisemitic.

If that is what he said then it is a pop at BB's regime.

[ThriceShy]

Originally Posted by letmein

And rightfully so.

In your opinion, yes.

[MrWong]

Originally Posted by ThriceShy

That remark (and I am disappointed in you taking a tabloid's word as gospel) is not in any way antisemitic.

If that is what he said then it is a pop at BB's regime.

Aimed at hm's in general would have been crass but he said it to the only Jewish person in the house.

Anyway, he has black neighbours so everything's cool.

[hot2go]

Originally Posted by ThriceShy

That remark (and I am disappointed in you taking a tabloid's word as gospel) is not in any way antisemitic.

If that is what he said then it is a pop at BB's regime.

It seems a bit sketchy what was actually said in front of Katie but from what we have heard I don't think it was antisemetic...making a reference to the holocaust would only be antisemetic if you agreed with it. If anything it puts Nazi Germany up for criticism not the Jewish community.

[luvjustin]

Originally Posted by ThriceShy

He said nothing to suggest he is scared of bisexuals. He simply stated his opinion on them, which he is entitled to.

Are you really excusing the spitting in someone's sandwich and coffee?

You do realise homophobia doesn't mean you are 'scared' of her homosexuals don't you?

And there is absolutely no reason why a gay men can not be homophobic. Internal homophobia is a thing.

LGBT. The B Stands for bisexual and to totally disregard a whole group of people AND to accuse them of something so horrific is more than grounds for removal in my eyes. Spitting and throwing a bloody cup.. Trivial.

And really, its up to BB who they want to remove. For any reason really. Of course they're going to keep people like Bear. It's good tv. Watching an old man distroy his career is not.

[Toy Soldier]

Originally Posted by MrWong

Turns out that he made an antisemitic comment to Katie and BB didn't give a **** until 4 days later. Looks like they wanted to cover it up at first.

If you listen to the DR conversation where they're kicking him out, the "Big Brother" who is talking to him sounds REALLY ****ing nervous. You can hear his heavy breathing and his voice shaking slightly. I think they know the whole thing is a bit of a mess .

[ThriceShy]

Originally Posted by luvjustin

You do realise homophobia doesn't mean you are 'scared' of her homosexuals don't you?

No, I'm afraid I don't realise this.

The word phobia means "fear of." If you aren't trying to suggest people are scared of gays then stop using the word phobia on the end.

It really is that simple.

[luvjustin]

Originally Posted by ThriceShy

No, I'm afraid I don't realise this.

The word phobia means "fear of." If you aren't trying to suggest people are scared of gays then stop using the word phobia on the end.

It really is that simple.

Well it's a term brought to light many years ago in a less enlightened time that seems to have stuck. Not all words and terms are interpreted exactly as written in the English language.

To clarify, homophobia is more akin to racism than to a fear of spiders. Although a fear of the unknown is thought to be a factor of people's perceived hatred.

[Jamie89]

Originally Posted by luvjustin

Well it's a term brought to light many years ago in a less enlightened time that seems to have stuck. Not all words and terms are interpreted exactly as written in the English language.

To clarify, homophobia is more akin to racism than to a fear of spiders. Although a fear of the unknown is thought to be a factor of people's perceived hatred.

Educate ha

[ThriceShy]

Originally Posted by luvjustin

Well it's a term brought to light many years ago in a less enlightened time that seems to have stuck. Not all words and terms are interpreted exactly as written in the English language.

To clarify, homophobia is more akin to racism than to a fear of spiders. Although a fear of the unknown is thought to be a factor of people's perceived hatred.

Sorry, your, and others', abuse of the English language is not my problem.

Homophobia means "fear of gay people." That is what it means. If you want a word that means hatred of gay people then you need to make up another one.

[MrWong]

Originally Posted by ThriceShy

Sorry, your, and others', abuse of the English language is not my problem.

Homophobia means "fear of gay people." That is what it means. If you want a word that means hatred of gay people then you need to make up another one.

It doesn't just mean that which is why luvjustins post should have been enough of an explanation.

Irrational fear of, aversion to, or discrimination against homosexuality or homosexuals

http://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/homophobia

[ThriceShy]

Originally Posted by MrWong

It doesn't just mean that which is why luvjustins post should have been enough of an explanation.



http://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/homophobia

So you post a definition whose first few words are "Irrational fear of"