[Liam-]

lmao Bear was literally caught finger diving himself love

[jaxie]

Originally Posted by chuff me dizzy

Is that all he did ?

Kathy Beale gave someone a blow job in a car on the hard shoulder and I don't think she was high! Phil Mitchell goes dogging. People have done worse things and been forgiven. I don't think what he did was all that bad. Perhaps he thought he could trust the person he was camming with.

We all liked Jason and he dated Charlie. Case rested.

[billy123]

Desperate times chuff desperate times. Keep trying love.

[Garfie]

Originally Posted by chuff me dizzy

If he's spineless all well and good,but why tell someone you have their back when theres not a hope in hell you have ? He wont jeopardise his "St "act for anyone ,he will stay attached the kitchen sink the entire series and every chance win it

I predict you are going to have to eat your words.......

Love your prediction though, as that'd be a great result, and show there is justice in the world! In fact, anyone but those in the 'squad' would be a great result, wouldn't it?

[BBG]

Originally Posted by Garfie

But how sad that he is being called a 'chicken' who needs to 'find his gonads' for having the decency and maturity to try to avoid escalating the situation further by adding fuel to the fire.

I am glad that my morals make me have so much more respect for a decent human being like Ricky, than for a bunch of immature, talentless and bullying nobodies who will disappear into obscurity after their 15 minutes of fame.

People are describing Ricky as boring, but the obnoxious and disgusting behaviour of Bear, Lewis and Marnie is not funny or entertaining, unless you have the mindset of a 13 year old. Their ridiculous behaviour is, in fact, what is boring so many, and what is making so many want to switch off after watching every series of BB and CBB since the show began.

The reason Ricky isn't standing up to Bear isn't because he is 'decent' or 'mature', it's because he's scared of him

I can assure you if Bear was a skinny weakling, Ricky would have been in his face shouting him down a long time ago. But because Ricky is the ultimate BETA male there's no way he would ever confront a guy like Bear who will best him both physically and verbally

Ricky is a spineless, boring little git.

[chuff me dizzy]

Originally Posted by Liam-

lmao Bear was literally caught finger diving himself love

BIG difference being Bear doesn't pretend to be a saint, what you see is what you get ..so your come back is meaningless

[chuff me dizzy]

Originally Posted by jaxie

Kathy Beale gave someone a blow job in a car on the hard shoulder and I don't think she was high! Phil Mitchell goes dogging. People have done worse things and been forgiven. I don't think what he did was all that bad. Perhaps he thought he could trust the person he was camming with.

We all liked Jason and he dated Charlie. Case rested.

Kathy and Phil are not in CBB

[jaxie]

Originally Posted by chuff me dizzy

Kathy and Phil are not in CBB

Neither is the article you posted or the reason Ricky left Eastenders. What's your point?

[Garfie]

Originally Posted by susie q

He certainly gets under Bears skin doesnt he. He would certainly be capable of talking to Bear one to one, as he has done with Heavy D. Bear of course wouldnt listen, and would probably revert to his 'baby talk' style. So maybe Ricky thinks why bother.

Yes he does, and he manages it without even saying anything or trying! He is winding Bear up so much more by being intelligent enough not to play into Bear's hands, and because Bear knows Ricky can see him for who and what he really is. So maybe this is a very clever strategy! Maybe he is going to be the silent assassin who takes Bear out.........!

[Garfie]

Originally Posted by Liam-

Only on this site could someone being genuinely nice and sticking out of petty, childish arguments with an overgrown manbaby, could be disliked for that reason, let the man live fgs, he's not a snake, he just doesn't want to get bogged down in all of Bear's overly aggressive cliquey drama ****.

Exactly!

[Garfie]

Originally Posted by jaxie

I like Ricky and he has taken action a couple of times, talking to Heavy D about his treatment of Chloe and coming out to herd Heavy D to the diary room after the altercation with Lewis. I don't think he has to be in your face aggressive to be likeable or to be a decent, adult man.

Well said, Jaxie!

[caprimint]

Bear knows his 'nice guy' act is all fake as hell.

[BBG]

Ricky has been out-alpha'd by the rest of the males in the house, hence why he's fallen into this role of mousey type who hangs out with the girls all day

The guy is a sissy and one of the dullest housemates in the show's history. Can anyone name ONE interesting thing he's done? Boring as ****

[chuff me dizzy]

Originally Posted by BBG

Ricky has been out-alpha'd by the rest of the males in the house, hence why he's fallen into this role of mousey type who hangs out with the girls all day

The guy is a sissy and one of the dullest housemates in the show's history. Can anyone name ONE interesting thing he's done? Boring as ****

Hes washed the dishes and cleaned up

[Garfie]

Originally Posted by BBG

The reason Ricky isn't standing up to Bear isn't because he is 'decent' or 'mature', it's because he's scared of him

I can assure you if Bear was a skinny weakling, Ricky would have been in his face shouting him down a long time ago. But because Ricky is the ultimate BETA male there's no way he would ever confront a guy like Bear who will best him both physically and verbally

Ricky is a spineless, boring little git.

Oh, really!? On what evidence are you basing this then?

And I guess anyone with even an ounce of intelligence would feel a little wary of an unpredictable, volatile and mindless thug like Bear! They'd have to be pretty stupid not to really!

And if you want to admire and support someone who could 'beat' someone 'both physically and verbally' I actually pity you. If that's your idea of how you measure someone's worth then that's your choice, but personally I have much more respect for the man who has the intelligence not to indulge in such primal behaviour, and the man who has the courage to walk away.

And, finally, the only way Bear could beat Ricky verbally is by shouting loudly over him, as the rubbish that comes out of his mouth would hardly do it!! He is unable to hold an intelligent conversation, and his words have no more meaning than grunts, whereas Ricky had shown repeatedly that he is extremely insightful, can have very intellectual discussions, and can express himself very effectively! And anyone with a brain cell would find that more interesting than someone who can only speak through their fists.

Here's to the power and skill of using intelligence over mindless thuggery!

[caprimint]

Originally Posted by Garfie

Ricky had shown repeatedly that he is extremely insightful, can have very intellectual discussions,

As you said yourself, what evidence are you basing this on? All I've seen him do is talk about Bear. In the garden or in the diary room. Sooo insightful and intellectual.

[BBG]

Originally Posted by Garfie

Oh, really!? On what evidence are you basing this then?

And I guess anyone with even an ounce of intelligence would feel a little wary of an unpredictable, volatile and mindless thug like Bear! They'd have to be pretty stupid not to really!

And if you want to admire and support someone who could 'beat' someone 'both physically and verbally' I actually pity you. If that's your idea of how you measure someone's worth then that's your choice, but personally I have much more respect for the man who has the intelligence not to indulge in such primal behaviour, and the man who has the courage to walk away.

And, finally, the only way Bear could beat Ricky verbally is by shouting loudly over him, as the rubbish that comes out of his mouth would hardly do it!! He is unable to hold an intelligent conversation, and his words have no more meaning than grunts, whereas Ricky had shown repeatedly that he is extremely insightful, can have very intellectual discussions, and can express himself very effectively! And anyone with a brain cell would find that more interesting than someone who can only speak through their fists.

Here's to the power and skill of using intelligence over mindless thuggery!

He's avoiding direct confrontation with Bear, but is quick to talk **** about him behind his back to other housemates and in the diary room. When Bear shows up however he goes quiet and is too scared to say a word. How can you respect that?

We need BB to put Ricky in a situation where he's FORCED to speak his mind in front of others as opposed to only the girls

Of course in real life Ricky is doing the mature, sensible thing but this is a game show and Ricky is too scared to get involved because he knows Bear will shut him down (using volume or otherwise). He is letting down the CBB viewers big time by doing NOTHING of consequence whatsoever. Dullest housemate in history - the house wouldn't miss him

[chuff me dizzy]

Originally Posted by BBG

He's avoiding direct confrontation with Bear, but is quick to talk **** about him behind his back to other housemates and in the diary room. When Bear shows up however he goes quiet and is too scared to say a word. How can you respect that?

We need BB to put Ricky in a situation where he's FORCED to speak his mind in front of others as opposed to only the girls

Of course in real life Ricky is doing the mature, sensible thing but this is a game show and Ricky is too scared to get involved because he knows Bear will shut him down (using volume or otherwise). He is letting down the CBB viewers big time by doing NOTHING of consequence whatsoever. Dullest housemate in history - the house wouldn't miss him

[Garfie]

Originally Posted by caprimint

As you said yourself, what evidence are you basing this on? All I've seen him do is talk about Bear. In the garden or in the diary room. Sooo insightful and intellectual.

On the live feed, where he has been shown more than on the main show, caprimint.

[Garfie]

Originally Posted by BBG

He's avoiding direct confrontation with Bear, but is quick to talk **** about him behind his back to other housemates and in the diary room. When Bear shows up however he goes quiet and is too scared to say a word. How can you respect that?

We need BB to put Ricky in a situation where he's FORCED to speak his mind in front of others as opposed to only the girls

Of course in real life Ricky is doing the mature, sensible thing but this is a game show and Ricky is too scared to get involved because he knows Bear will shut him down (using volume or otherwise). He is letting down the CBB viewers big time by doing NOTHING of consequence whatsoever. Dullest housemate in history - the house wouldn't miss him

In response to this, all I can say is re-read my previous post made, and which you've quoted, as it seems unnecessary to repeat the points I've already made when I'm not seeing any new ones from you.

When you say it well, you only need to say it once.......

[Kazanne]

I was always told it takes a man to walk away from a fight,I like Ricky so far.

[chuff me dizzy]

Originally Posted by Kazanne

I was always told it takes a man to walk away from a fight,I like Ricky so far.

Kazanne your usual impeccable taste is wavering

[Kazanne]

Originally Posted by chuff me dizzy

Kazanne your usual impeccable taste is wavering

Hi Chuff I just cant warm to Bear,not often this happens is it?

[chuff me dizzy]

Originally Posted by Kazanne

Hi Chuff I just cant warm to Bear,not often this happens is it?

Extremely rare !! And you have such a great sense of humour too ,but Ricky ??????? Im shocked I tell you .....shocked

[Kazanne]

Originally Posted by chuff me dizzy

Extremely rare !! And you have such a great sense of humour too ,but Ricky ??????? Im shocked I tell you .....shocked

I was shocked at you backing Bear too Chuff , just WHY ? I just find him obnoxious at the moment , but having said that I am finding them all a bit hard going this time round.