[joeysteele]

Food gets wasted in all BB series, I recall Harry only ordering bananas as shopping, and Jay jumping all over the bananas in the stockroom.

It is nothing new at all on BB and that was thought hilarious at the time.
Food fights are almost in near every series.

Renee did not explain the cancer comment either and having family who have cancer I felt she went really low.
She said to the others she did not mean him directly as being cancer.
She said the same to him face to face in the garden later.

However talking to her 'aide' Aubrey, she said she 'did' mean it directly as to him and went even further with her venom on it.
In my view she was out of order on that and sadly not someone to be trusted either as to her word or anything else possibly.

[Cherie]

Originally Posted by Vanessa

She should have been thrown out for the hitman comment. Out of order. They give Bear warnings for wasting food, but let this go? Actually saying she wants him dead?

The only explanation for her not being turfed out for wishing hurt on another HM is that it was scripted, if that was real them there are no words

[Northern Monkey]

Originally Posted by Ammi

...but isn't that Bear's whole game-plan, to antagonise, goad and provoke 'the true colours'...(while masking his own 'true colours' in his Bear character..)...and what he's been praised for in his methods..he's consistently brought housemates to tears and raw emotion and that's 'nasty' and even when he's done it, he's carried on pushing and poking after his insincere apologies ..(because he knows that he has to make those apologies or whatever as well to keep it all in the game...)...and then another apology and then another apology and etc etc, which if anyone was truly sorry thy wouldn't have to be making....it really is poor and a poor series when we're rating levels of 'nastiness' and oh that wasn't as bad as that etc...sadly he will be rewarded though for his engineering of this hateful playground....

Bear has'nt been that nasty to anyone though and has'nt threatened anyone or wished death on them or compared them to cancer.He's kept it to light hearted humour and yes he's wound them up and been annoying but Renee certainly let her mask slip with those comments.If someone's annoying you then you can annoy them back,Not get them killed.She took it too far.

[Northern Monkey]

Originally Posted by joeysteele

Food gets wasted in all BB series, I recall Harry only ordering bananas as shopping, and Jay jumping all over the bananas in the stockroom.

It is nothing new at all on BB and that was thought hilarious at the time.
Food fights are almost in near every series.

Renee did not explain the cancer comment either and having family who have cancer I felt she went really low.
She said to the others she did not mean him directly as being cancer.
She said the same to him face to face in the garden later.

However talking to her 'aide' Aubrey, she said she 'did' mean it directly as to him and went even further with her venom on it.
In my view she was out of order on that and sadly not someone to be trusted either as to her word or anything else possibly.

Well said

[Vanessa]

Bear never threatened to have someone killed or called them cancer. That crosses the line

[Clootie Dumpling]

Originally Posted by Vanessa

Bear never threatened to have someone killed or called them cancer. That crosses the line

Nonsense!

[Vanessa]

Originally Posted by Clootie Dumpling

Nonsense!

It's a fact. He may be annoying sometimes, but he never gets personal

[Ammi]

Originally Posted by Northern Monkey

Bear has'nt been that nasty to anyone though and has'nt threatened anyone or wished death on them or compared them to cancer.He's kept it to light hearted humour and yes he's wound them up and been annoying but Renee certainly let her mask slip with those comments.If someone's annoying you then you can annoy them back,Not get them killed.She took it too far.

...indeed, of course not because that wouldn't have been the Bear who had to balance out with the 'charm' and the humour as well, while he was pushing people to their very limits and trying for the inevitable of negativity that it was going to bring...he hasn't 'kept it light' though, there is real spite and callous disregard/lack of empathy in his game-plan and the thing is, when someone antagonises/goads etc to the consistent and relentless extent that he has, it's always going to release things that he has no control over and the very worst of people....he's been the perpetrator so it's really not hard for him to maintain his mask, while others have not been so in his game...I condone nothing of any bad or extreme reactions from others and I don't defend them at all...but I don't think that any of us forum people would defend/laugh with or at/find entertainment or charm etc in any troll that was pushing our own buttons to the very limit and then laughing at us and saying...oooo, you upset then, my goodness me.....and again and again and again and again...and that's what he basically is, a troll....

[Clootie Dumpling]

Originally Posted by Vanessa

It's a fact. He may be annoying sometimes, but he never gets personal

If by personal you mean that he doesn't insult HMs directly by making personal remarks, e.g. about their appearance, then I accept that point, but his passive-aggressive tendencies mean that he attacks HMs obliquely and makes it very personal for the person who he's targeting.

[Vanessa]

Originally Posted by Clootie Dumpling

If by personal you mean that he doesn't insult HMs directly by making personal remarks, e.g. about their appearance, then I accept that point, but his passive-aggressive tendencies mean that he attacks HMs obliquely and makes it very personal for the person who he's targeting.

If you ignore him he loses interest. We have seen that last on live feed. But they wanted their Camera time.

[Northern Monkey]

Originally Posted by Ammi

...indeed, of course not because that wouldn't have been the Bear who had to balance out with the 'charm' and the humour as well, while he was pushing people to their very limits and trying for the inevitable of negativity that it was going to bring...he hasn't 'kept it light' though, there is real spite and callous disregard/lack of empathy in his game-plan and the thing is, when someone antagonises/goads etc to the consistent and relentless extent that he has, it's always going to release things that he has no control over and the very worst of people....he's been the perpetrator so it's really not hard for him to maintain his mask, while others have not been so in his game...I condone nothing of any bad or extreme reactions from others and I don't defend them at all...but I don't think that any of us forum people would defend/laugh with or at/find entertainment or charm etc in any troll that was pushing our own buttons to the very limit and then laughing at us and saying...oooo, you upset then, my goodness me.....and again and again and again and again...and that's what he basically is, a troll....

I thought James handled him perfectly when he poured the coffee over Bear.That's Bear's level and Bear left him alone after that because he knew he'd met his match.What James didn't do is threaten his life in any way.If Renee can only revert to that level when someone annoys her then she shouldn't have been put in the house.It is inevitable that you will meet annoying characters in there.That's the name of the game.

[Ellen]

Originally Posted by joeysteele;8945255[B

]Food gets wasted in all BB series[/B], I recall Harry only ordering bananas as shopping, and Jay jumping all over the bananas in the stockroom.

It is nothing new at all on BB and that was thought hilarious at the time.
Food fights are almost in near every series.

Renee did not explain the cancer comment either and having family who have cancer I felt she went really low.
She said to the others she did not mean him directly as being cancer.
She said the same to him face to face in the garden later.

However talking to her 'aide' Aubrey, she said she 'did' mean it directly as to him and went even further with her venom on it.
In my view she was out of order on that and sadly not someone to be trusted either as to her word or anything else possibly.

You mention BB but I really dont recall the amount of wasting food like Bear has done in any CBB before.

[bitontheslide]

i dont get the this person is better than another bollocks. The majority in that house are completely unsavoury. Its complete trash

[Ellen]

Originally Posted by Northern Monkey

I thought James handled him perfectly when he poured the coffee over Bear.That's Bear's level and Bear left him alone after that because he knew he'd met his match.What James didn't do is threaten his life in any way.If Renee can only revert to that level when someone annoys her then she shouldn't have been put in the house.It is inevitable that you will meet annoying characters in there.That's the name of the game.

Didn't Renee pour water on him? He didn't leave her alone though.

[Ammi]

Originally Posted by Northern Monkey

I thought James handled him perfectly when he poured the coffee over Bear.That's Bear's level and Bear left him alone after that because he knew he'd met his match.What James didn't do is threaten his life in any way.If Renee can only revert to that level when someone annoys her then she shouldn't have been put in the house.It is inevitable that you will meet annoying characters in there.That's the name of the game.

..I love the playing down of 'when someone annoys'...(I feel Bear would be disappointed in that choice of words as well with all of his efforts and hoping they've been appreciated to their fullest..)...anyways, as I say ..I don't condone Renee's recent reactions/words... but I think 'breaking people' as he has can never be seen as not spiteful or nasty or justified just because it shows 'their capability/or capacity' etc...just because some have held together in a better way, really doesn't justify/excuse or have any bearing...and no respect even for the extreme emotions that he's provoked and poked but just often 'making light' of those as well....anyways, I don't choose to spend any more moments of my day in the discussion of Bear so I'm off to start my day and hope that you enjoy yours, Northern Monkey....

[caprimint]

Originally Posted by Kazanne

What a waste of food that was,Bear has never wasted food has he?

It just makes Renee look like a major hypocrite and idiot for moaning when Bear wasted it before.

[coffee]

Renee is a vile creature.
Cancer is no joke and I'm offended she even used that word to refer to Bear.
Evil woman.

[joeysteele]

Originally Posted by Ellen

You mention BB but I really dont recall the amount of wasting food like Bear has done in any CBB before.

For one,I recall Jade and co forcing Shilpa to get rid of a whole chicken,I think food is always being wasted in any C/BB seres to be honest.
It is why, it no longer honestly surprises me in the slightest at all.

I do consider it a waste and unnecessary.
However since BB does not take strong steps to stop it, and sadly even encourages it by creating tasks that involve smashing pies in peoples faces, as they did with Coleen Nolan and Julie Goodyear's series too.
For me it is just a part of C/BB now.

Also, little said on this one too,Aubrey asked for beans on toast,Bear prepared it and also, I thought wisely, left the bulk of the beans in a side bowl for them.

Which then all went in the bin, so food is wasted left ,right and centre, why ask for something you intend to just put in the bin.

So I am not going to condemn any for food wasting,having seen so much over all series of C/BB, and especially when BB do not do so, or seem to want to do so, as to stamping it out.

[Paula D]

I'm a big Renee fan but I do think she went too far with the cancer comment. It's not like he's actually killed someone!

However, she has not threatened to kill him. She merely stated that in the real world he wouldn't get away with that kind of behaviour and she's right. This is something his mother should have taught him because it will get him in serious trouble.

[Ellen]

Originally Posted by joeysteele

For one,I recall Jade and co forcing Shilpa to get rid of a whole chicken,I think food is always being wasted in any C/BB seres to be honest.
It is why, it no longer honestly surprises me in the slightest at all.

I do consider it a waste and unnecessary.
However since BB does not take strong steps to stop it, and sadly even encourages it by creating tasks that involve smashing pies in peoples faces, as they did with Coleen Nolan and Julie Goodyear's series too.
For me it is just a part of C/BB now.

Also, little said on this one too,Aubrey asked for beans on toast,Bear prepared it and also, I thought wisely, left the bulk of the beans in a side bowl for them.

Which then all went in the bin, so food is wasted left ,right and centre, why ask for something you intend to just put in the bin.

So I am not going to condemn any for food wasting,having seen so much over all series of C/BB, and especially when BB do not do so, or seem to want to do so, as to stamping it out.

Yeah, now you mention it the Jade. Shilpa with the raw chicken.
Other than that though its food waste in general or on a task but not like what Bear does which is smear it all over the house and garden. I cant say i remember any CBB HM doing that before.

[Toy Soldier]

The reason they don't take Renee's threats seriously is because everyone knows that she can't legitimately get anyone killed . She is a cartoon character.

[joeysteele]

Originally Posted by Ellen

Yeah, now you mention it the Jade. Shilpa with the raw chicken.
Other than that though its food waste in general or on a task but not like what Bear does which is smear it all over the house and garden. I cant say i remember any CBB HM doing that before.

They did so much as to trashing the house,which I myself found really funny at times, however Jedward in their series threw food around,I recall Kerry Katona going mad at them to get the mess cleaned up they had left outside the stockroom.

I also in that series remember Jedward being given a task and free run to create havoc one day,so BB encouraging again bad behaviour.

That day resulted in a bath being spilt over and bedrooms trashed and chairs thrown into the pool.

Also a shopping task where Jedward bought loads of sweets which I am sure got thrown around a lot too.
Bad behaviour and food wasting are sadly a part of BB.

I also recall in the visiting legends series,where Nikki ran panicking to the diary room after a food fight in the stockroom then too.
If BB don't stop it, and also encourage it at times,then it's hardly surprising it will happen and continue to do so,in my view anyway.

[Ellen]

Originally Posted by joeysteele

They did so much as to trashing the house,which I myself found really funny at times, however Jedward in their series threw food around,I recall Kerry Katona going mad at them to get the mess cleaned up they had left outside the stockroom.

I also in that series remember Jedward being given a task and free run to create havoc one day,so BB encouraging again bad behaviour.

That day resulted in a bath being spilt over and bedrooms trashed and chairs thrown into the pool.

Also a shopping task where Jedward bought loads of sweets which I am sure got thrown around a lot too.
Bad behaviour and food wasting are sadly a part of BB.

I also recall in the visiting legends series,where Nikki ran panicking to the diary room after a food fight in the stockroom then too.
If BB don't stop it, and also encourage it at times,then it's hardly surprising it will happen and continue to do so,in my view anyway.

Gawd Joey, what a memory and you are right!
I was racking my brains for ages trying to remember and you name dozen immediately, i must be getting old

[Toy Soldier]

They have actual organised tasks that are largely based on wasting food .

[Adamw92]

There were no lies in her words though, he is a cancer and he should have been removed weeks ago. It's hilarious watching people grasp at any straw to defend Bear and his many MANY warnings being ignored but Renee should be removed for one comment and a very vague, not definite threat to him. Please, his words the other night were threatening as well so maybe he should be removed too? Fair is fair.