[Epic.]

dont associate tiffany with bear in the same series, ch5. just don't

[Jason.]

C5's idea of an All Stars would be **** anyway. They'd just ask James Jordan and Michelle Visage back.

[Cal.]

Originally Posted by Jason.

C5's idea of an All Stars would be **** anyway. They'd just ask James Jordan and Michelle Visage back.

Which is why besides part of me being against the idea, part of me is hopeful that because there's 2 all stars either they'll stick all the **** ones in one series and all the good ones in another or they balance out the ****/good housemates in each series and we end up with two good series'.

[Wizard.]

Originally Posted by Who Is She?

They just have no faith in the normal format at all. Why can't they just stick in 11 celebs for 3 weeks or just 16 civilians for 10 weeks? They're coming up with all these themes and Ben Frow has already said he needs to talk with the producers on how to completely revamp BB18 again.

This screams of 'Oh this series is ****e let's put Nikki and Helen in' except the series hasn't even started.

Ben Frow has no clue he said BB17 was going to be completely different I mean it was a bit bitter than the previous two series but not Secrets and Lies. CBB never needed Revamping because it's format works, just didn't this time because of Bear completely taking over. I really hope they put a nice person like Janicé in.

[Paula D]

I wouldn't mind seeing Bear coming up against some real men though!

[Pete.]

Originally Posted by Jason.

C5's idea of an All Stars would be **** anyway. They'd just ask James Jordan and Michelle Visage back.

Is there a problem Jason?

[Vicky.]

Originally Posted by Paula D

I wouldn't mind seeing Bear coming up against some real men though!

This is why I think this *could* be great, if done right. Bear only got away with how he acted as the other housemates were weak as ****, lets be honest. They allowed him to go on like that and it was never challenged bar a couple of toys out of pram huffs followed by a hug. Now, the likes of Pete Burns would never stand for how bear acts..even being more recent, not necessarily men, Tiffany Pollard would not just allow him to go on like that either. Putting some stronger personalities in with him would be great viewing.

[Adamw92]

CBB18 is the first and last CBB for me on Channel 5. I'll just stick with "normal" (as normal as it can be) BB.

[smudgie]

Yays, good excuse for me to watch something decent on the other side.
Do they still do that card with the picture of the girl on?

[Cal.]

I agree with points in here about the likes of Pete Burns and Tiffany Pollard not standing for Bear's ****. Pete Burns especially would destroy him.

[erinp5]

After the last CBB I doubt any self respecting past CBB Hm will want to share a platform with Bear, so it will be the desperate unemployed celebs like Lee Ryan that will take up the offer ...any work is better than none.

[Vicky.]

Originally Posted by erinp5

After the last CBB I doubt any self respecting past CBB Hm will want to share a platform with Bear, so it will be the desperate unemployed celebs like Lee Ryan that will take up the offer ...any work is better than none.

...also known as the usual CBB housemates? With the odd exception to the rule, this is pretty much always what CBB housemates are

[erinp5]

Originally Posted by Vicky.

...also known as the usual CBB housemates? With the odd exception to the rule, this is pretty much always what CBB housemates are

My point is we will never see Vinnie Jones, Michael Malden, Heidi Fleiss, Stephen Baldwin, Julian Clary and Martin Kemp types again in CBB. It will be filled from the reality TV pool the likes of Kerry Katona, Nick Norcross, Childs, Nicola McLean , Frankie Cocozza and George Gilbey and one or more of the GS lot..

[Maru]

Originally Posted by Cherie

In a house of bigger characters like Speidi and Perez, Bear would'nt get a look in, doubt Perez would return though, going back in ruined Helen, it would probably be the same end for Bear as he wouldnt be edited so kindly

Bear had it easier because of the people he was cast with (Lewis, Heavy D, Marnie)... I don't think that would work with bigger egos in there. Really hope Perez goes back in. I actually find him interesting. Katie Hopkins and him need to finish what they started... Perez could redeem himself with the public I think.

The quality of the show will depend entirely on whether they actually let them play the proper game or not. Too much manipulation like last series and I'll be tuning out sooner rather than later.

[Epic.]

Thinking about it, I'd actually be worried about Tiffany & Bear being in the same house together. The fact that Nikki, Laura, AND Jayne all supported him makes me worried. Tiffany is the horniest housemate of all time too so she could also easily be charmed by him. This is the same woman who saw something in Scotty T, Jeremy McConnell AND Darren Day, a weird combination.

[Wizard.]

Originally Posted by EpicD

Thinking about it, I'd actually be worried about Tiffany & Bear being in the same house together. The fact that Nikki, Laura, AND Jayne all supported him makes me worried. Tiffany is the horniest housemate of all time too so she could also easily be charmed by him. This is the same woman who saw something in Scotty T, Jeremy McConnell AND Darren Day, a weird combination.

AND Winston Mckenzie

[Alf]

Sack the lot of em, they don't have a clue.

[Vanessa]

Omfg yes please! More Bear! He's going to cause so much trouble

[empire]

pete burns, coolio, bear, farrah, helen, hazel, that would be a riot in their.

[Cal.]

Originally Posted by Vanessa

Omfg yes please! More Bear! He's going to cause so much trouble

[EspeonBB]

If All Stars is just going to be the Bear show 2.0 then I'll give it a miss

[alex_front2]

Originally Posted by EspeonBB

If All Stars is just going to be the Bear show 2.0 then I'll give it a miss

As everyone is saying, stick Pete Burns, McKriric, Coolio, Perez, Spiedi, Hopkins, Masden in there and Bear gets reduced to nothing. Peter Burns would destroy Bear and thus destroy Bear the celebrity.

With big characters Bear will get limited air time. In the CBB just finished, Sam Fox and Ricky were too passive aggressive, whining behind his back mostly, too nice when he was down and could have been kicked eg upsetting him further when Lillie left, taking the pi$$ out him, upsetting him over Chloe's eviction etc. They were all too nice. Only Renee and Aubrey took him on, the former really fancied him so undermined herself, plus he succeeded in dominating and upsetting a so-called mob wife, the latter Aubrey, left her take down too late and lost moral high ground over spit gate.

Bear would be wise to not throw Pete Burns coffee.

[Cal.]

Here for Pete destroying Bear on Day 1

[Greg!]

Hmm I think this is fake. Remember the celebs vs civilians rumour? That was also in the daily star

[Cal.]

Originally Posted by Greg!

Hmm I think this is fake. Remember the celebs vs civilians rumour? That was also in the daily star

They sort of got it right since Lateysha, Marco, Alex, Natalie, Andy and Laura were all semi 'celebs'.