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14-10-2016, 06:16 AM | #51 | |||
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14-10-2016, 06:21 AM | #52 | |||
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..yeah that's what I was thinking, I can't see anything but negatives with this../an adding to the negative feelings atm...(which I do understand those feelings of helplessness in a vote outcome that many feel so against..)...if the outcome was Independence, then how does the divide go for that to happen and be possible anyway..?...just the vote itself last time seemed to cause such community and neighbour divides and also aggressive acts..this lady even had members of her own family turn against her because of her stance not being the same as hers....
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14-10-2016, 06:26 AM | #53 | |||
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14-10-2016, 06:38 AM | #54 | |||
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It annoys me that the SNP have been going on so much about xenophobia and being internationalist, when the whole purpose of their party is to cause a division and put up barriers.
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14-10-2016, 07:27 AM | #55 | |||
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DOnt forget this is a consultation bill. Scottish people voted in the SNP by quite a bit and i think they know what they are about so dont just focus on Nicola - she is the democratically elected leader of a voting majority of Scottish people.
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14-10-2016, 09:02 AM | #56 | |||
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14-10-2016, 09:15 AM | #57 | ||
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I don't see the problem.If Scotland want to go it alone then cool.I think it'd be better to have a vote to see if the Scottish people actually want another referendum though.It's a democratic country after all.
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14-10-2016, 09:24 AM | #58 | |||
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Do you not think electing (again) and SNP government rather makes that null?
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14-10-2016, 09:27 AM | #59 | |||
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LT would you want out of the UK?
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14-10-2016, 09:29 AM | #60 | |||
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Yes, having a country like England which is 10x bigger than the next in the union and having the government in London is not ideal and rest assured if Scotland was England and England was Scotland, English folks would be feeling the same
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14-10-2016, 09:36 AM | #61 | |||
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Yeah I can imagine especially listening to alot of the pro brexit comments actually, it was a similar thing, not wanting to be told what to do by Europe
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14-10-2016, 09:50 AM | #62 | ||
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You don't know all the reasons that people voted the SNP in though.Yes they are a nationalist party but the last Scottish referendum told us that Scotland wanted to stay in the UK.It seems that nationalism is'nt the sole reason the SNP are doing so well but maybe disillusionment with the Westminster old boys.There may not be appetite in Scotland as a whole to go through all the divides that a referendum creates.
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14-10-2016, 09:53 AM | #63 | |||
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14-10-2016, 09:56 AM | #64 | |||
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14-10-2016, 10:48 AM | #65 | ||
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Lets keep voting until we get the result i want. That's Scotland's idea of democracy.
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14-10-2016, 10:56 AM | #66 | |||
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14-10-2016, 11:09 AM | #67 | |||
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They do have their own government.
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14-10-2016, 11:11 AM | #68 | |||
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Does who have their own government?
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14-10-2016, 11:23 AM | #69 | |||
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Sorry I misread your post Jaxie. You mean Scotland have their own government? that makes it even more similar to Britain and Europe, doesn't it? Britain have their own government but felt that the EU were dictating to them too much
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14-10-2016, 11:26 AM | #70 | |||
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and you can bet your last euro that if the tables were turned and Scotland was where England is the English would be after independence!
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14-10-2016, 11:28 AM | #71 | |||
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Scotland. Their government has control over its own spending. Scotland has free prescriptions, England, Wales and NI don't. Scotland have free University education. Due to the Barnett formula more is spent on each Scottish person than any country in the union. Scotland is hardly an oppressed entity under the jackboots of Westminster.
From a personal stand point for my whole life we've been family and I'd hate see hundreds of years of family history end but if Scotland chose to go I doubt it would in reality make a lot of difference to me in England. I do think though that Scotland would struggle. All the welfare, free prescriptions, free university education, they already overspend, how would they continue as they are? If they lost all that, they would not be happy with the dear old SNP.
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14-10-2016, 11:33 AM | #72 | |||
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14-10-2016, 11:37 AM | #74 | |||
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The voting majority of Scotland also wanted to remain part of the UK but that gets ignored so the snp can continue with thier one and only agenda.
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14-10-2016, 11:44 AM | #75 | |||
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I view it differently. If Scotland had voted for independence they wouldn't have been forced to run the same referendum over and over until we got the decision we wanted. The way Ireland was forced over the Lisbon treaty. Imo shamefully undemocratic. We'd never take their pensions away in austerity. The way the EU has treated Greece chills my bones.
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