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24-10-2016, 10:20 AM | #1 | |||
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The cake was eventually made by another bakery Yes its all money http://news.sky.com/story/ashers-bak...lenge-10630650 [Christian bakers who broke discrimination rules by refusing to make a cake with a pro-gay marriage slogan have lost their appeal. Belfast-based Ashers told gay activist Gareth Lee cake they would not make the cake featuring the Sesame Street puppets Bert and Ernie and the logo of Belfast campaign group Queerspace. The McArthur family, who own the business, first accepted the order but later declined it because it conflicted with their beliefs that marriage should be between a man and a woman.] Last edited by arista; 24-10-2016 at 10:25 AM. |
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24-10-2016, 11:34 AM | #2 | |||
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Good. The bakers seem like self important twats
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24-10-2016, 11:46 AM | #3 | |||
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Gay marriage is not legal in NI and the bakers did not want to make a politically charged cake. It was not about the customer it was about the cake (they said)
But if they made Halloween cakes (they did) frankly they did not have a leg to stand on. |
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24-10-2016, 11:48 AM | #4 | |||
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Id never eat a gay cake, tbh
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24-10-2016, 01:17 PM | #5 | ||
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If they did'nt wanna make it they should've just said they were too busy and not taking orders
Now they've landed themselves in court. |
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24-10-2016, 01:18 PM | #6 | ||
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Good.
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24-10-2016, 01:21 PM | #7 | |||
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Meh, they have the right to serve or not serve whoever they want, not agreeing with gay marriage doesn't necessarily make someone homophobic.
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24-10-2016, 01:27 PM | #8 | ||
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It's about discrimination, they were breaking the law.
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24-10-2016, 01:34 PM | #9 | ||
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I have absolutely nothing against gay marriage.I'm a live and let live kinda person.However i don't think it should be forced on churches for whom it is against their religious beliefs(again live and let live).For me if these cake makers had said something along the lines of 'I refuse to serve you because i don't like gays' then they should be done for discrimination.However if it's just the content of the cake decoration that they won't do then i think it should be up to the artist/shop as to what they supply.
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24-10-2016, 01:35 PM | #10 | |||
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id just shut the churches and force people to be properly educated or face jail
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24-10-2016, 01:36 PM | #11 | |||
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Its a cake. Who actually cares
Gays will complain about anything. Lets focus on the atrocities happening against gays is Russia and Syria. Need to get our priorities right.
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24-10-2016, 01:38 PM | #12 | |||
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Whats next, can I take a straight guy to court because he doesnt want to take my dick?
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24-10-2016, 01:38 PM | #13 | |||
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People shouldn't be forced to agree with gay marriage, if they don't agree with it then they can choose if they want to make a cake associated with the cause, like Northern Monkey said, if they had refused because they didn't want to make a cake for gay people, that would be completely different.
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24-10-2016, 01:40 PM | #14 | ||
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They're a business, they can't refuse customers on grounds of sexuality. They were happy enough to bake other cakes that would conflict with their beliefs so it's less about religion and more about their own personal bias.
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24-10-2016, 01:41 PM | #15 | |||
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24-10-2016, 01:42 PM | #16 | ||
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Also, baking a cake does not equate to agreeing with it's message.
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24-10-2016, 01:42 PM | #17 | |||
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They didn't refuse based on sexuality, they refused on the grounds of an act they don't agree with, unless it comes out that they don't allow gays into the bakery full stop, I fail to see how their action deserves this reaction.
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24-10-2016, 01:46 PM | #18 | ||
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Again, baking a cake does not mean they support whatever the cake is for, they are just fulfilling their end of the order.
They seem to be able to separate their religion and their work when it comes to other orders so what made this order so different? |
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24-10-2016, 01:49 PM | #19 | |||
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Contributing something to an event typically shows that you support that event, so them baking a cake for a gay wedding, would say that they agreed with it.
What other orders are you referring to?
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24-10-2016, 01:54 PM | #20 | |||
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24-10-2016, 01:58 PM | #21 | |||
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No I wouldn't, because interracial marriage is legal, whereas some countries still haven't legalised gay marriage, hence people not wanting to bake cakes to support a marriage they don't agree with, or a cake that supports a controversial political statement, if a place refused to make a cake for an interracial wedding, then yes, that would be wrong and they should be dealt with.
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24-10-2016, 02:08 PM | #22 | ||
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Two different courts with different people presiding over them with all the facts at hand reached the same conclusion. I don't know what there is to argue about. |
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24-10-2016, 02:11 PM | #23 | ||
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If it were the way you were talking they would have to agree with the lifestyle and actions of every customer who ever purchased any food from them. |
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24-10-2016, 02:14 PM | #24 | |||
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I'm not arguing about it, I'm just giving my opinion, in a country where gay marriage isn't legal yet, a company shouldn't be forced to make something for a gay marriage event, if they don't agree with it imo.
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24-10-2016, 02:24 PM | #25 | |||
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Why is this story even making the headlines?
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