[Drew.]

Originally Posted by Niamh.

It would be more refreshing for him to lose though

Massive compliment to him right there Niamh

[Niamh.]

Originally Posted by Drew.

Massive compliment to him right there Niamh

To his car actually

[James]

Vettel's car has let him down again.

[James]

What was this all about lol? I only watched from the start.

[Drew.]

The drivers entrance/introduction whatever you want to call it was so OTT, classic Americans over doing things. Hopefully it doesn't catch on outside of the US

[James]

That was a good one.

Originally Posted by Drew.

The drivers entrance/introduction whatever you want to call it was so OTT, classic Americans over doing things. Hopefully it doesn't catch on outside of the US

Americans own F1 now, hah.

[James]

Verstappen given a 5 second penalty. What's going on?

[Drew.]

Max is seriously unlucky. Driver of the day and overtake of the day at the end there, should never have been given a penalty

[James]

Just seen a replay of the overtake. Nothing in it.

[Niamh.]

He went completely off the track and was able to over take Kimi for a Podium place because of it, of course he should have been penalised

Also, i thought Lewis was really rude on the Podium while Usain Bolt was interviewing Kimi

[James]

He went about an inch over the white line. I think it has been said also that other drivers were doing it during the race also without punishment, but I'm not sure.

[Niamh.]

Yes but the rule is you can't go off the track and gain an advantage, the other drivers didn't gain a position when they went off the track but Max did. I can't understand how people are complaining about this tbh

[Niamh.]

people are only complaining because it's Max and he's young and people like him, you can't have people driving off the track/cutting corners to over take, it's clearly against the rules and it would be a mess if people started doing that all the time. Yeah max had a great race but that doesn't mean he should get away with breaking the rules and taking a Podium spot from someone illegally

[Niamh.]

Verstappen's penalty for overtaking Raikkonen with all four wheels off the track was:

Far too harsh (16%)
Slightly too harsh (17%)
Fair (67%)
Slightly too lenient (0%)
Far too lenient (0%)
No opinion (0%)
Total Voters: 262
https://www.f1fanatic.co.uk/2017/10/23/354437/


Track limits calls like this usually involve drivers cutting across asphalt run-offs through slow corners. It isn’t usually possible for drivers to do the same at quick corners, but a fired-up Verstappen wielding Red Bull’s latest downforce monster found grip at a part of turn 17 few drivers had ventured onto during the weekend.

It was an impressive move and a thrilling culmination to an epic drive. But does that mean the stewards should waive a rule which has been enforced consistently in the past?

This is why I have some sympathy for the stewards. Track design, particularly on relatively new tracks like the Circuit of the Americas, should make it impossible for drivers to gain an advantage in this way.

I think much of the furore surrounding this move has to do with timing. Had it been a few laps earlier Verstappen would have had the opportunity to relinquish the position and have another go at passing Raikkonen. As it all happened in the final seconds of the race, emotions ran high.

It’s an unfortunate decision, but unless we’re going to start letting drivers straight-line chicanes to pass their rivals, it’s one that can’t be avoided until the track limits are enforced by physical obstacles rather than the rule book.

[James]

Lewis Hamilton is World Champion.

[James]

I'm going to watch the highlights at 10.