[Northern Monkey]

Well i hope they all got home in time to cook dinner

[Scarlett.]

Great to see such a turn out, it's heart warming to see so many people turning out to protest against hate, peacefully.

[arista]

Originally Posted by Northern Monkey

Well i hope they all got home in time to cook dinner

NO NM


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[arista]

Originally Posted by Chewy

Great to see such a turn out, it's heart warming to see so many people turning out to protest against hate, peacefully.

Yes so long as they are Not Smashing Shop windows
its Fine Chewy

But I hope your aware and you have been Updated
some on marches were not just marching against Trump,


On all News

[Northern Monkey]

Originally Posted by arista

NO NM


prepared dinner in fridge
cook for 3 mins
add gravy cook for another 2mins


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Feel The Force.

[jaxie]

I think its good to see women being passionate about something and respecting themselves and so on. However, for me this is a misguided choice of issue to march over.

If we are going to scream and shout about about a foreign government, why don't we see women marching about the rights of Saudi woman who aren't allowed to go out without a male family member and aren't allowed to drive a car among many other things. Or women in Iran, or China where they have a serious population imbalance of men to women because of the practice of disposing of little girl babies in favour of boys. There are women in the world who have no rights. They can't choose who to love or who to marry. They can't even choose what to wear. Not only can men speak about them disrespectfully they can use them disrespectfully, treat them as property, lock them up in the home.

Trump talks inappropriately a few years ago about a few women who might have misguidedly let him cop a feel, or who he thought he could cop a feel with, and everyone is up in arms. Women who live in a country where they have every right to take the bastard to court and nail him for it.

I am a bit bemused as to how some of these things are acceptable, and some are not. I am not saying any woman should have to put up with inappropriate sexual harassment but the perspective to me seems unbalanced, particularly when the women in Trump's case could report him to the police or sue him, they are allowed out without a male family member..

[Northern Monkey]

Originally Posted by jaxie

I think its good to see women being passionate about something and respecting themselves and so on. However, for me this is a misguided choice of issue to march over.

If we are going to scream and shout about about a foreign government, why don't we see women marching about the rights of Saudi woman who aren't allowed to go out without a male family member and aren't allowed to drive a car among many other things. Or women in Iran, or China where they have a serious population imbalance of men to women because of the practice of disposing of little girl babies in favour of boys. There are women in the world who have no rights. They can't choose who to love or who to marry. They can't even choose what to wear. Not only can men speak about them disrespectfully they can use them disrespectfully, treat them as property, lock them up in the home.

Trump talks inappropriately a few years ago about a few women who might have misguidedly let him cop a feel, or who he thought he could cop a feel with, and everyone is up in arms. Women who live in a country where they have every right to take the bastard to court and nail him for it.

I am a bit bemused as to how some of these things are acceptable, and some are not. I am not saying any woman should have to put up with inappropriate sexual harassment but the perspective to me seems unbalanced, particularly when the women in Trump's case could report him to the police or sue him, they are allowed out without a male family member..

Because on the lefties scale of victimhood Muslims are a more protected group than women.

It goes something like this from most protected to least
Non whites
Transexuals
Gays
White foreigners
Women













Straight white males

[Brillopad]

Originally Posted by jaxie

I think its good to see women being passionate about something and respecting themselves and so on. However, for me this is a misguided choice of issue to march over.

If we are going to scream and shout about about a foreign government, why don't we see women marching about the rights of Saudi woman who aren't allowed to go out without a male family member and aren't allowed to drive a car among many other things. Or women in Iran, or China where they have a serious population imbalance of men to women because of the practice of disposing of little girl babies in favour of boys. There are women in the world who have no rights. They can't choose who to love or who to marry. They can't even choose what to wear. Not only can men speak about them disrespectfully they can use them disrespectfully, treat them as property, lock them up in the home.

Trump talks inappropriately a few years ago about a few women who might have misguidedly let him cop a feel, or who he thought he could cop a feel with, and everyone is up in arms. Women who live in a country where they have every right to take the bastard to court and nail him for it.

I am a bit bemused as to how some of these things are acceptable, and some are not. I am not saying any woman should have to put up with inappropriate sexual harassment but the perspective to me seems unbalanced, particularly when the women in Trump's case could report him to the police or sue him, they are allowed out without a male family member..

Some very good points Jaxie and I agree totally. I feel that people are afraid to tackle the issues of women who are treated as property and who have absolutely no rights due to so-called religious beliefs.

Their sense of being seen to be politically correct and accepting of other cultures gets priority over the plight of those poor women. They turn a blind eye, maybe due to deep rooted sexism, and hide behind comments such as they have the right to choose what they want to wear when people challenge the wearing of burkas in the West, which is simple deflection to let them off the hook for their own inaction. No doubt we will hear more of the same later. Of all the 'isms' it seems that to many sexism comes bottom of the pile , that sub-consciously at least, they do not treat the 'isms' equally. There seems to be more 'street-cred' for supporting isms such as racism and liberalism.

Men get away with murder in the name of religion worldwide, many of their victims women and many women from their own families. I saw an interesting documentary recently regarding a young girl in India who had defied her father and was shot and thrown in a river and left for dead by him. She survived but was pressured by everyone, family, villages and the system, to forgive him so he didn't have to stay in prison - common practice apparently. She didn't want to but had little choice. The father had been far more concerned with preserving his reputation and receiving respect than the life or suffering of his own daughter. There was absolutely no remorse from him for what he had done to her. He actually said he was proud of what he had done, that he had done the right thing.

That sort of religous belief has no place on the planet and is a cover for psychopathic women hating men, of which there are clearly many, to get away with it. Sickening how anyone in the Western world could in any way want to condone such religions in the West in order to indulge their own sense of moral superiority by being accepting of other cultures and religions. I feel ashamed for them.

[DemolitionRed]

What you're not getting is, this march was an international day of solidarity. It wasn't just about Trump. It was used on the day of his Inauguration because Trump, our new leader of the world, is the new face misogyny. This march was about female repression the world over.

Why do so many threads get turned back towards Muslims? its like an obsession.

[Brillopad]

Originally Posted by DemolitionRed

What you're not getting is, this march was an international day of solidarity. It wasn't just about Trump. It was used on the day of his Inauguration because Trump, our new leader of the world, is the new face misogyny. This march was about female repression the world over.

Why do so many threads get turned back towards Muslims? its like an obsession.

I guess because this particular religion's treatment of women is one of the worst and very visual, the wearing of the burka, and should not be allowed on streets in the West, it is tantamount to acceptance of said repression.

[DemolitionRed]

Originally Posted by Brillopad

I guess because this particular religion's treatment of women is one of the worst and very visual, the wearing of the burka, and should not be allowed on streets in the West, it is tantamount to acceptance of said repression.

That's not what this discussion is about.

[arista]

"Straight white males"

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[the truth]

Originally Posted by DemolitionRed

What you're not getting is, this march was an international day of solidarity. It wasn't just about Trump. It was used on the day of his Inauguration because Trump, our new leader of the world, is the new face misogyny. This march was about female repression the world over.

Why do so many threads get turned back towards Muslims? its like an obsession.

Men are more oppressed than women in western society. If these man haters want to march I suggets they march in the countries where women are oppressed ie. the middle east. a place where the idiotic feminazis and liberals want to allow totally open borders unchecked immigration and sharia law too...they make so sense whatsoever. trump is trying to protect these women and men from such radical islamic terrorists

[Northern Monkey]

Biology doesn't make men and women unequal,It makes them different and as such they often have to make different choices.

[Tom4784]

Originally Posted by jaxie

I think its good to see women being passionate about something and respecting themselves and so on. However, for me this is a misguided choice of issue to march over.

If we are going to scream and shout about about a foreign government, why don't we see women marching about the rights of Saudi woman who aren't allowed to go out without a male family member and aren't allowed to drive a car among many other things. Or women in Iran, or China where they have a serious population imbalance of men to women because of the practice of disposing of little girl babies in favour of boys. There are women in the world who have no rights. They can't choose who to love or who to marry. They can't even choose what to wear. Not only can men speak about them disrespectfully they can use them disrespectfully, treat them as property, lock them up in the home.

Trump talks inappropriately a few years ago about a few women who might have misguidedly let him cop a feel, or who he thought he could cop a feel with, and everyone is up in arms. Women who live in a country where they have every right to take the bastard to court and nail him for it.

I am a bit bemused as to how some of these things are acceptable, and some are not. I am not saying any woman should have to put up with inappropriate sexual harassment but the perspective to me seems unbalanced, particularly when the women in Trump's case could report him to the police or sue him, they are allowed out without a male family member..

I disagree completely.

I think the (rather random) Muslim statements don't serve a point other than to shut down the conversation. Just because some women are repressed in some parts of the world doesn't mean we can't discuss issues facing women in our part of the world. One issue doesn't cancel out another.

Trump's election and Brexit showed that both the UK and the US are sliding towards extremism. The Women's March is as relevant to the UK as it is to the US although it's more pre-emptive here but still important as our Media and government rely on scapegoats and anyone who isn't the preferred demographic will be targeted eventually.

Trump's administration brings with it the threat of the end of Planned Parenthood, stricter abortion laws and the continued presence of a gender based wage gap. The march is relevant and important.

[the truth]

Originally Posted by Northern Monkey

Biology doesn't make men and women unequal,It makes them different and as such they often have to make different choices.

feminists dont accept that. they think the average wage across the entire world should be identical. even though men do jobs for many years that 99.9% of women wouldnt consider

[VanessaFeltz.]

Originally Posted by Dezzy

I disagree completely.

I think the (rather random) Muslim statements don't serve a point other than to shut down the conversation. Just because some women are repressed in some parts of the world doesn't mean we can't discuss issues facing women in our part of the world. One issue doesn't cancel out another.

Trump's election and Brexit showed that both the UK and the US are sliding towards extremism. The Women's March is as relevant to the UK as it is to the US although it's more pre-emptive here but still important as our Media and government rely on scapegoats and anyone who isn't the preferred demographic will be targeted eventually.

Trump's administration brings with it the threat of the end of Planned Parenthood, stricter abortion laws and the continued presence of a gender based wage gap. The march is relevant and important.

amazing post

[Northern Monkey]

Originally Posted by the truth

feminists dont accept that. they think the average wage across the entire world should be identical. even though men do jobs for many years that 99.9% of women wouldnt consider

Well one of the issues that feminists generally shy away from is the fact that way more men die at work because they do the horrible jobs that women won't or can't do.Put that fact to a feminist and they'll change the subject or try telling you it's all about the context etc etc blah blah.

[Tom4784]

Originally Posted by the truth

feminists dont accept that. they think the average wage across the entire world should be identical. even though men do jobs for many years that 99.9% of women wouldnt consider

The fact that you think a gender based wage gap is acceptable says it all and your attempts to justify it are illogical and nonsensical.

[the truth]

Originally Posted by Dezzy

I disagree completely.

I think the (rather random) Muslim statements don't serve a point other than to shut down the conversation. Just because some women are repressed in some parts of the world doesn't mean we can't discuss issues facing women in our part of the world. One issue doesn't cancel out another.

Trump's election and Brexit showed that both the UK and the US are sliding towards extremism. The Women's March is as relevant to the UK as it is to the US although it's more pre-emptive here but still important as our Media and government rely on scapegoats and anyone who isn't the preferred demographic will be targeted eventually.

Trump's administration brings with it the threat of the end of Planned Parenthood, stricter abortion laws and the continued presence of a gender based wage gap. The march is relevant and important.

The feminazis are the extreme movement. they have more rights than men in western society, theyve destroyed families and childhood too. they trying to shut down all free speech next and ignore the rife sexism against men in western society, because they are not a movement for equality they are a sexist vicious male hating out of date corrupt movement hell bent on female supremacy and male oppression

[Vicky.]

Originally Posted by Northern Monkey

Well one of the issues that feminists generally shy away from is the fact that way more men die at work because they do the horrible jobs that women won't or can't do.Put that fact to a feminist and they'll change the subject or try telling you it's all about the context etc etc blah blah.

This should change before long given women have been fighting for the right to fight on the army frontline, same as men..and now have that right just extra training is involved so its not quite happening yet (unless you class men who were already in the army now wearing dresses and deciding that makes them women and such...). The death toll of women at work should rise soon, probably by next year

[the truth]

Originally Posted by Dezzy

The fact that you think a gender based wage gap is acceptable says it all and your attempts to justify it are illogical and nonsensical.

your counter argument is embarrassing and your false outrage and fake taking of offence oh so predictable. If 2 people do the exact same job to the same standard in the same part of the country they should be paid the same. otherwise there will be variation. how many women clean the sewers, work oil rigs, carry out the rubbish, how many do the most dangerous jobs risking life and limb compared to men? until the same number do, then they cannot earn the living for doing these jobs? You cont even understand mean medium mode. Im talking the mean across the whole country. when you factor in the vast number of men who do more risky jobs and get danger money they they overall male mean/average will be boosted above womens.

[Tom4784]

Originally Posted by Northern Monkey

Well one of the issues that feminists generally shy away from is the fact that way more men die at work because they do the horrible jobs that women won't or can't do.Put that fact to a feminist and they'll change the subject or try telling you it's all about the context etc etc blah blah.

It's a stupid argument to make. Why should a woman be paid less than a man just because some industries are male dominated? It makes no ****ing sense.

Does this mean that men working in the fashion, childcare or Health & Beauty industries should be paid less than women because they are female dominated industries? It's dumb.

Men and women who perform the same job should be paid an equal wage, the fact that people are arguing against this is just ****ing mind boggling.

[Vicky.]

I am not a feminist by any stretch of the imagination, but find the idea that feminists should centre the struggles of men slightly bizarre. Its kinda akin to asking the black lives matter movement to focus on the struggles of white people.

And I am yet to meet a feminist who hates men, as is often claimed.

I actually agree that in this country men and women are more or less equal. But to claim that men are more oppressed is just silly to me.

[Tom4784]

Originally Posted by the truth

The feminazis are the extreme movement. they have more rights than men in western society, theyve destroyed families and childhood too. they trying to shut down all free speech next and ignore the rife sexism against men in western society, because they are not a movement for equality they are a sexist vicious male hating out of date corrupt movement hell bent on female supremacy and male oppression

Nothing you say is based on logic or facts but it all comes from the deep seated need to feel oppressed. You are not oppressed for being a straight white man, you have never been oppressed in your life and you never will. Nothing you say will change that.