[jaxie]

WTF does Stacy know? She's been through sooo much she barely knows what day it is. How does she know what Nicole did or didn't know before the house.

[Cal.]

Originally Posted by Lostie!

No because, as has been said several times, it was a horrid comment regardless. The very fact that she supposedly unknowingly mocked a woman who suffered a stillbirth for not being a mother should be enough reason for people to acknowledge that it's not something people should stoop to, especially when you know nothing about their life.

Lostie you could apply that to anything though. Should you never criticise or mock anyone because you don't know EXACTLY what they've been through in life? We're all human.

[LeatherTrumpet]

Yes she called her a bad person who had no kids so because did.not kn ow she buried a dead baby we should be happy?

[jet]

Both Nicola and Kim have said horrible things. I don't like Nicola and I like Kim but that doesn't change the facts of what we have heard and seen from them BOTH.

[Amy Jade]

Originally Posted by Cal.

Lostie you could apply that to anything though. Should you never criticise or mock anyone because you don't know EXACTLY what they've been through in life? We're all human.

Totally agree with this.

[Vicky.]

I don;t really understand how Stacy would know that nicola didn;t know something...

[jet]

Originally Posted by Vicky.

I don;t really understand how Stacy would know that nicola didn;t know something...

She said that the house didn't know...I guess if it had been mentioned in the house, it would have eventually reached the ears of the other HM's. Although I don't like Nicola, I would prefer to give her the benefit of the doubt as I can't believe she would really be that evil.

[Lostie!]

Originally Posted by Cal.

Lostie you could apply that to anything though. Should you never criticise or mock anyone because you don't know EXACTLY what they've been through in life? We're all human.

You could apply it to anything but not everything bears the same weight. Things like someone not being a parent should never be used as a weapon against them. That's not being human, that's being a spiteful dickhead.

And before anyone starts with the current trend of attempting to compare that with what Kim said, it's not close to being comparable.

Originally Posted by Vicky.

I don;t really understand how Stacy would know that nicola didn;t know something...

I assume her line of thinking is "It wasn't discussed in the house so nobody knows", as if none of them could have possibly found out years ago like so many of us.

[Amy Jade]

I think it's quite spiteful to tell somebody their children would be ashamed of them.

They're both in the wrong imo

[Fetch The Bolt Cutters]

this doesn't confirm anything at all

we'll never know for sure if she knew bc the only person that will know is nicola herself and she's always going to deny it but i trust my own judgement enough to believe that she did know

[azi]

Nicola knew.

[jennyjuniper]

Stacy is not a reliable source of information. She speaks when other people are talking and therefore probably misses half of what they are saying and she seems a bit of an air head, meaning that what she does hear, goes in one ear and out the other.
I'm not saying that just because Stacey didn't know about Kim doesn't mean that Nicola did, but knowing that Nicola has an insatiable appetite for celeb gossip (God forbid that she should read an actual book) she probably did know about Kim's past.

[Jake.]

this confirms nothing lol

just because Kim didn't call a house meeting, it doesn't mean Nicole doesn't know

[parmnion]

Originally Posted by Greg!

Ok so can everyone cut Miss McLean some slack.

This doesn't prove nicola didnt know, it maybe proves stacey didnt know.. why would she!

[parmnion]

Originally Posted by Adam.

It was a stillborn not miscarriage

We only have kims word on that seeing as nothing was investigated by police or confirmed by a doctor because the poor mite was buried by kim in a park.

[Northern Monkey]

I honestly don't think even Nicola would use the death of somebodies child against them.

[Kazanne]

I just knew some would run with that remark,lol,how on earth would Stacey know no one else knew about it? Jess knew at least and from what has been posted Kim had told some of the others,Stacey probably wasn't one of them,but regardless of people trying to excuse the vile bitch,what she said was "You want to go low,I can go lower so I don't care how many try and defend her,she was nasty,always has been,always will be.

[Kazanne]

Originally Posted by jet

Both Nicola and Kim have said horrible things. I don't like Nicola and I like Kim but that doesn't change the facts of what we have heard and seen from them BOTH.

Kim NEVER said anything horrible about Nicolas kids all she said was "Stop swearing dear,your children might be watching" don't know why people are making things up about what she said.

[Ronald.]

Didn't know this, really sad news. R.

[Jamie89]

I don't know one way or the other if she knew but I don't think this really confirms anything, even if it wasn't discussed in the house (although really Stacy is just saying that she didn't personally see it being discussed - and it's not as if something like that would be discussed as a group on a regular basis) it doesn't mean Nicola didn't know. I know a lot of people didn't know but a lot of people did, apparently it was big news when Kim released her autobiography and was in many papers and magazines. Either way though I still think it was a terrible thing to say, but yeah much less terrible if she didn't know.

[MrWong]

Originally Posted by Kazanne

I just knew some would run with that remark,lol,how on earth would Stacey know no one else knew about it? Jess knew at least and from what has been posted Kim had told some of the others,Stacey probably wasn't one of them,but regardless of people trying to excuse the vile bitch,what she said was "You want to go low,I can go lower so I don't care how many try and defend her,she was nasty,always has been,always will be.

So Stacy doesn't know but Jess does and some of the others do as well. Right.

How come not one hm reacted to Nicola's words then?

[Liam-]

Why are people assuming Jessica knows? we haven't seen or heard anything about Kim telling anyone about it, so how come Jessica magically knows about it?

[Niamh.]

Originally Posted by Liam-

Why are people assuming Jessica knows? we haven't seen or heard anything about Kim telling anyone about it, so how come Jessica magically knows about it?

Because she alluded to it when she was trying to get Stacy to give her a break, the conversation about stuff that Kim went through and she's had a harder time then most in there. I think everyone on the outside assumed that she was referring to that because of her book and it seems to be the most tragic experience Kim had in her life

[Liam-]

Originally Posted by Niamh.

Because she alluded to it when she was trying to get Stacy to give her a break, the conversation about stuff that Kim went through and she's had a harder time then most in there. I think everyone on the outside assumed that she was referring to that because of her book and it seems to be the most tragic experience Kim had in her life

She could have read her book, or she could have just looked at her age and assumed she's had a hard life, but then if she had read her book and done some research on her before going in there with her, how does that correlate to Nicola and the rest of the house knowing? just because one person knows, doesn't mean the rest do, unless Jess did know about it and went around the house gossiping about it, in which case, she would be a twat and I don't think she is.

[chuff me dizzy]

Stacy doesn't know what they all know, load of BS ,Nicola clearly knew thats why she said "You can go low, I can go lower"