[AProducer'sWetDream]

Originally Posted by Kizzy

Not voters then? There was a vote, he won remember?

Less than a million Labour members. Labour 'voters' up and down the country are turning away in their droves.

[arista]

Originally Posted by AProducer'sWetDream

Less than a million Labour members. Labour 'voters' up and down the country are turning away in their droves.

But because he has had 2 Elections
even Blair-Labour MP's
are not asking for anymore internal elections.

[Livia]

Originally Posted by Kizzy

Not voters then? There was a vote, he won remember?

Originally Posted by AProducer'sWetDream

Less than a million Labour members. Labour 'voters' up and down the country are turning away in their droves.

I thought it was clear that the "noisy minority" was the less than a million people who are intent on keeping Corbyn in post while the rest of Labour's support, as QPWD said, are turning away in their droves.

[Greg!]

Originally Posted by LeatherTrumpet

Sure, and labour are flourishing

Did I say they were? lol I don't even support them.

Ukip are dying/dead. It's a fact

[Kizzy]

Originally Posted by Livia

I thought it was clear that the "noisy minority" was the less than a million people who are intent on keeping Corbyn in post while the rest of Labour's support, as QPWD said, are turning away in their droves.

Then why didn't the 'silent majority' vote for another leader?...

[joeysteele]

Labour has lost support, for me Corbyn says what a lot like and think right,however for me the UK as to politics, heeds the minority who are xenophobic,hard hearted and hardline voters.
Who care little really about the NHS or people who are disadvantaged as to opportunity or health in society.

The in fighting in Labour is sad to see and is also a contribution to the party's woes.
It will take either a miracle as to voters waking up to the true rotten ideals of this current Conservative govt. or for their handling of leaving the EU to end up a disastrous mess for Labour to move forward.

That is sad for me to see,any one party state situation in the UK,sadly it is there now in Scotland too at the other end of the political spectrum,with the SNP.

The vast army of non voters is what is now needed to quell that minority hardline, hard hearted and intolerent set of voters.
Otherwise this lot will be there for ages.

A proper PR system may help curb the extremes of this awful govt. and PM.
No chance of that as the Conservatives are the only party who would never ever, support a change to the voting system.
The UK is on a road in politics abhorrent to me and so I am pleased to say personal circumstances and events will see me leave the UK later this year.
Leaving it to sink further into being a more backward Nation,rather than one that should be showing the way on compassion,decency and tolerance.
Instead of being the opposite now of all three.

[Livia]

Originally Posted by Kizzy

Then why didn't the 'silent majority' vote for another leader?...

Erm... because you can't have two majorities. And the majority of Labour members voted for Corbyn while Labour voters continue to turn away from the party.

[Kizzy]

Originally Posted by Livia

Erm... because you can't have two majorities. And the majority of Labour members voted for Corbyn while Labour voters continue to turn away from the party.

Again.... why did the majority voters if they were so disenfranchised vote for a different leader when the opportunity arose?

Let's not get carried away with the turning away, they won Stoke remember, there was only a 6.7% shift in Copeland. The foreshadowing in the media is premature.

http://uk.businessinsider.com/conser...oughton-2017-2

[Livia]

Originally Posted by Kizzy

Again.... why did the majority voters if they were so disenfranchised vote for a different leader when the opportunity arose?

Let's not get carried away with the turning away, they won Stoke remember, there was only a 6.7% shift in Copeland. The foreshadowing in the media is premature.

http://uk.businessinsider.com/conser...oughton-2017-2

Because they would have had to have joined the Labour party. And not everyone wants to join a political party.

The denial is almost tangible with Corbyn supporters. Personally, I don't care if he remains leader forever, he will never win a general election, I'm not sure how much more proof you need. Sad for the country though because a strong opposition keeps the government in line.

[Northern Monkey]

Unfortunately if Labour don't sort out their crap they are in danger of fading into irrelevance.They need a new,strong and sensible leader who appeals to the voters and not just the far left protester types.

[parmnion]

Originally Posted by Alf

I like oatcakes.

[Kizzy]

Originally Posted by Livia

Because they would have had to have joined the Labour party. And not everyone wants to join a political party.

The denial is almost tangible with Corbyn supporters. Personally, I don't care if he remains leader forever, he will never win a general election, I'm not sure how much more proof you need. Sad for the country though because a strong opposition keeps the government in line.

Then they can keep quiet, if they don't wish to vote then they can't complain at the choice of leader can they?

If the Labour party wanted to appeal to their faithful voters then why not scrap the membership fee?
He may not win, that doesn't mean he should be ousted...there is no viable alternative is there?
So yes the denial is tangible, I have hope and faith that there are enough Labour voters who want an end to this current govt, why that means I'm mocked for backing the leader of the party I don't know :/

[MTVN]

Dawn Butler has just sidestepped a question on Copeland on QT by saying "I didn't go to Copeland, I get car sickness and I hear the roads are quite bad there"

Couldn't make it up