[Denver]

Originally Posted by Dezzy

Because it's better to be late than not show up?

Would you rather they had no progressive elements in their stories?

Me personally i dont think this is the right film.

They could have done it in a past film or made another one.

But they chose to do it in the most talked about Disney film in ages that is why i feel they have done it for some kind of stunt/publicity then put any actual thought process into it.

It would be nice to see it happen to a character we could see grow not one of the side characters

[Niamh.]

Originally Posted by Adam.

Me personally i dont think this is the right film.

They could have done it in a past film or made another one.

But they chose to do it in the most talked about Disney film in ages that is why i feel they have done it for some kind of stunt/publicity then put any actual thought process into it.

It would be nice to see it happen to a character we could see grow not one of the side characters

Which is why they wouldn't have needed to pull a stunt to sell the film

[Denver]

Originally Posted by Niamh.

Which is why they wouldn't have needed to pull a stunt to sell the film

But it adds extra publicity which will likely turn into more tickets being sold which = loads of money

[Withano]

Originally Posted by Adam.

I dont get why everyone is fan girling Disney doing it either as they are like a decade late to the party

Theyre not really though, considering Disney isnt aimed at an adult audience. If anything, theyre a decade early. Which is excellent.

[Niamh.]

Originally Posted by Adam.

But it adds extra publicity which will likely turn into more tickets being sold which = loads of money

I disagree, if anything it will lead to less ticket sales by people protesting

[Denver]

Originally Posted by Withano

Theyre not really though, considering Disney isnt aimed at an adult audience. If anything, theyre a decade early. Which is excellent.

But shouldnt children be taught that there is nothing wrong with being different to everyone else in school as soon as possible?

[Withano]

Originally Posted by Adam.

But shouldnt children be taught that there is nothing wrong with being different to everyone else in school as soon as possible?

Which is precisely why Disney doing it is excellent? Lol

[Tom4784]

Originally Posted by Adam.

Me personally i dont think this is the right film.

They could have done it in a past film or made another one.

But they chose to do it in the most talked about Disney film in ages that is why i feel they have done it for some kind of stunt/publicity then put any actual thought process into it.

It would be nice to see it happen to a character we could see grow not one of the side characters

Lamenting that it should have happened in an earlier film is beyond pointless.

Like it's been said before, why would they need a publicity stunt when BatB is probably the most hyped film being released this year?

Little steps are better than nothing, a gay side character is better than having no gay characters at all.

[Withano]

I think, for now, theyre just trying to normsalise it. Make it less taboo.. therres been gay references in past disney films and the less subtle they get, the more normal it becomes.

[Denver]

Originally Posted by Niamh.

I disagree, if anything it will lead to less ticket sales by people protesting

I disagree only sales in countries that make gay propaganda illegal will suffer.

Everywhere else will have high ticket it sales i doubt there will be too much protesting

[Niamh.]

Originally Posted by Adam.

I disagree only sales in countries that make gay propaganda illegal will suffer.

Everywhere else will have high ticket it sales i doubt there will be too much protesting

I doubt people who wouldn't have normally went, will go just cos there's a gay disney character in it so no extra sales because of it but they will have people, alot of people too I think, not just in countries like Russia, who will refuse to "expose their children to that" jeez large areas of bible belt America for example and Russia is a huge country too btw, that's a big loss in sales right there alone

[Lostie!]

The "Gay agenda!! Think of the children!!" people exist in all countries, this will absolutely alienate some of the audience. It will still do well because it's a hugely anticipated movie though, not because it has a gay character.

[Tom4784]

Originally Posted by Adam.

I disagree only sales in countries that make gay propaganda illegal will suffer.

Everywhere else will have high ticket it sales i doubt there will be too much protesting

It will have an effect on sales, there's a lot of 'family' and religious organisations in countries like the US that will opt for boycotts and such. It'll still be a rampant success but having a gay character will affect sales even in the most progressive of places.

[Marsh.]

Originally Posted by Adam.

You can tell its a stunt when they sterotype the character 10 fold

Yeah because that same character wasn't camp as Christmas in the animation was he.

That's probably what made them think you know what this guy is in love with Gaston.

[Marsh.]

Originally Posted by Withano

I think, for now, theyre just trying to normsalise it. Make it less taboo.. therres been gay references in past disney films and the less subtle they get, the more normal it becomes.

Exactly so when it gets to the point that a gay character is at the centre of one of their movies it isn't a left field shock out of nowhere. They're slowly making it part and parcel of the Disney world as it is in the real world.

[Kizzy]

And yet...Tatu?

[Niamh.]

Originally Posted by Kizzy

And yet...Tatu?

cos they're girls probably

[Marsh.]

Tatu?

[Niamh.]

Originally Posted by Marsh.

Tatu?

You never heard of Tatu?

Youtube video

[Niamh.]

They're Russian btw ^

[Shaun]

The only problem I have with this is the character they chose. It could easily have been Lumiere, or Cogsworth, but instead the "very first gay" is an obsessed, pathetic sidekick to the villain. Thanks for the bone, Disney?

[Amy Jade]

Originally Posted by Shaun

The only problem I have with this is the character they chose. It could easily have been Lumiere, or Cogsworth, but instead the "very first gay" is an obsessed, pathetic sidekick to the villain. Thanks for the bone, Disney?

Elsa from Frozen is gay isn't she?

Without sounding like a know it all either I've knows quite a few gay guys who experienced being attracted to their best mates in school and having secret crushes on their friend. It's a nice inclusion imo.

[Mystic Mock]

Originally Posted by Jake.

it's also a film about a woman falling in love with an animal but that's Russia's priorities for you

Beastiality and loving the undead is cool in Hollywood according to stuff like this and Twilight.

[MB.]

ps the character of Gaston was invented by Howard Ashman in the first place to be inherently gay (based on the idea of trade), so while I do agree that the whole "beta villain is gay for the alpha villain" idea isn't as progressive as Disney makes it out to be, it was all there in the original

[TomC]

Well this sucks. I'm so happy that gay characters are surfacing in children's films. Honestly, growing up, gay people were nowhere to be seen anywhere in children's entertainment - I didn't even know that being 'gay' was a thing till I was bout 7 probably? And that's really wrong.