[Vicky.]

I do think Sturgeon will just keep doing this over and over til she gets the result she wants though.

[Denver]

Scotland would also not be allowed in the EU for a few years after applying

[Vicky.]

I honestly think the EU is going to collapse soon so if anyone votes based on that...

I go to Scotland a fair bit..would I actually need to take my passport if they do decide to leave?

[Denver]

Originally Posted by Vicky.

I honestly think the EU is going to collapse soon so if anyone votes based on that...

I go to Scotland a fair bit..would I actually need to take my passport if they do decide to leave?

Soon as France votes out which is highly likely then only Germany will have the money to fund the EU.

you will need a Visa as Theresa May wants to end free movement between EU countries

[arista]

LT , TS and Josy
are you ready for YOUR new money €

If she wins and then Scotland Joins the EU
your Currency can only be €uro.


Utter Bliss

[Cherie]

Originally Posted by Adam.

Soon as France votes out which is highly likely then only Germany will have the money to fund the EU.

Yes you will need a passport as Theresa May wants to end free movement between EU countries

Free movement has nothing to do with passports Adam it's the right to move between EU countries, you still have use your passport whether you have free movement or not

[Denver]

Originally Posted by Cherie

Free movement has nothing to do with passports Adam it's the right to move between EU countries, you still have use your passport whether you have free movement or not

Sorry my bad i was thinking of Visa's for some reason when i wrote that

[Cherie]

Nicola say she won't join the euro, if Scotland become independant, the EU won't like that

[Denver]

Downing Street has insisted that Scottish people do not want to second independence referendum – but has shied away from saying it would block a new plebiscite.

[Vicky.]

Am I alone in wondering WTF a 'plebiscite' is

I seem to be ridiculously behind on politics recently

[Denver]

plebiscite
ˈplɛbɪsʌɪt,ˈplɛbɪsɪt/Submit
noun
the direct vote of all the members of an electorate on an important public question such as a change in the constitution.

[James]

No then, and I am No now.

[arista]

Originally Posted by James

No then, and I am No now.

Sure there may be a few of you.

But so many want the EU single market.
so they can have it
I will not stop them.

[arista]

[Wizard.]

Voting to remain in one union but then voting to leave another which is closer, has more historical ties and is your largest market.

I bet Nicola Sturgeon's answer to the best form of defence in the face of a serial killer is to kill yourself.

[Wizard.]

Originally Posted by Vicky.

I do think Sturgeon will just keep doing this over and over til she gets the result she wants though.

Being First Minister isn't good enough, she wants to be the Prime Minister of Scotland, and she'll ruin the country for a title and autonomy.

[Denver]

Originally Posted by arista

Sure there may be a few of you.

But so many want the EU single market.
so they can have it
I will not stop them.

They can want it all they want but they wont be given membership straight away like they think and it is up to all members of the EU to decide if they want them

[smudgie]

I think it will all have to wait until we see what is on the table leaving the European Union.
Doubt Scotland would be welcome on their own, especially as the euro is a no no.
She might shoot herself in the foot and be on the way to jobseekers if she calls it and loses.

Plus Theresa is now poised to push that button.

[Vicky.]

Originally Posted by Riley.

Being First Minister isn't good enough, she wants to be the Prime Minister of Scotland, and she'll ruin the country for a title and autonomy.

Well she seems to be what Scotland wants...going by the votes at least. I actually can't stand the woman...she grates on me so much but she does seem to want to do right by 'her people' unlike the shower of shite in Westminster

We really are stuck with the ****ing Tories for at least 20 years IMO. Its quite frightening

[MTVN]

Well so much for it being a 'once in a generation' vote. Yes there has now been the Brexit vote but everyone knew that that referendum was taking place back in 2014 should the Tories win an overall majority. It's a shame that we are leaving the EU but it is not the be all and end all - we are leaving what is, in the scheme of things, an economic and administrative union of only a few decades, it is nothing like as deep or embedded a union as the centuries old one between the UK. To break that up at the same time as the UK breaks from the EU would be incredibly destructive to all our countries and cause even more division and hatred amongst our societies.

I'm pretty sure it is now a condition of EU membership that new countries have to commit to joining the Euro at some point as well. Sturgeon might wish otherwise but an independent Scotland would have to reapply to the EU and there are lots of European politicians who would not like to make it easy for them. The UK is not the only country with separatist movements after all.

[arista]

Yes The Labour Leader JC
said he will not stop the SNP to have a Vote?

It appears so many are are changing their mind
and now want OUT of the UK.

Ref: LBC/SkyNewsHD/Ch4HDnews/Ch5HDnews/
BBCnewsHD/ R5/R4 and CNN HD

[ebandit]

Originally Posted by Riley.

Being First Minister isn't good enough, she wants to be the Prime Minister of Scotland, and she'll ruin the country for a title and autonomy.

i had thought does she really care this much about independence...........

or does she care most about making a name for herself?

Mark L

[Toy Soldier]

Originally Posted by Vicky.

Well she seems to be what Scotland wants...going by the votes at least. I actually can't stand the woman...she grates on me so much but she does seem to want to do right by 'her people' unlike the shower of shite in Westminster

We really are stuck with the ****ing Tories for at least 20 years IMO. Its quite frightening

Westminster is stuck with the Tories until a meaningful new opposition party rises. Labour will never again beat them in a GE at this point.

[Vicky.]

Originally Posted by Cherie

If they go it alone they will have no choice but to raise taxes dramatically I think

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2017...ncrease-taxes/

Nicola Sturgeon’s economic case for independence suffered a major blow after one of Britain’s most respected economists warned taxes would have to increase or spending cut by more than £1,000 per person.

[T*]

The EU is teetering on the edge of maybe surviving but most probably crumbling with the likes of Netherlands and France perhaps looking at it... I think thiis is a bad idea for Scotland - if by the time they do get another referendum it might already be too late