[joeysteele]

Originally Posted by Kazanne

As an afterthought on the foxhunting issue,people must be aware it still goes on even though it's been made illegal,so I am asking why the scum who do it are not brought to task,so even though it is banned it still goes on,so even if it came back it would be any different than it is now,it needs banning properly and policing or not at all,no good just having a law that people can just ignore (and they do) it must have been so good for the other parties when this leaked though as it's given them something to bash the Tories for although people from ALL parties fox hunt. If it goes to a vote ,let it be banned for good.

Honestly what do Cons have to do to get criticised.
This ban came into force 2005/6.

Since 2010 we have had Con led govts. which are the party who have the mass of supporters among MPs who support it.
Probably only a handful of others from other Parties only.

Maybe people get away with prosecutions by the atmosphere of Con led govts.of whom the hunt organisers and huntsmen/women are 'friends'of the Con party.

She is not bringing a vote on it to kill it off for good,she is holding a vote to bring it back only.
I predict she'll easily win that vote and this woman does not want to lose any vote she puts forward, freevote or otherwise.
I'm stunned anyone 'really' against foxhunting with dogs,would even think of allowing the risk that it could be brought back.

If,and it won't be,it was defeated,no way is she advocating killing it off for good.
She will try again at.another time since the hunt lobbyists donate to the Con party.

She won't need to, she has told them she is holding a vote,she is seeking a much greater majority for other things too,however she knows greater numbers of Con MPs, will ensure she wins 'all' votes she proposes.
What she supports will get the votes to be passed but you help her get a bigger majority if you must.

You will then be helping support her effort to bring back foxhunting with dogs and I predict it will be back.
Thankfully for me,My conscience will be clear as she'd never get the slimmest chance to do this from me.
I'll take no risks whatsoever with animals lives,I'm surprised you'd even think of supporting someone who would risk or want to enable any animals life being taken, cruelly, as Mrs May would and intends too as well with power given to her to do so.

You take that risk if you will but once back it will then likely never be stopped and the hunts then given a free for all,to do what they like again.

[arista]

Labour manifesto

Yes Nothing like the Conservative Views
because of Renationalisation

http://news.sky.com/story/vote-2017-...means-10879977

[joeysteele]

Originally Posted by arista

Labour manifesto

Yes Nothing like the Conservative Views
because of Renationalisation

http://news.sky.com/story/vote-2017-...means-10879977

I'd love to think of water back under state control.
Since privatisation water prices have also endlessly rocketed with nothing to show that is in any way much better except the greedy Companies profits.

One thing,no one can say there's no real difference between the Parties now.

[DemolitionRed]

Labour, the party for the people.

[joeysteele]

Originally Posted by DemolitionRed

Labour, the party for the people.

A good slogan that DR.

[Alf]

Originally Posted by Kizzy

He's all over the place, have a look on you tube he's been interviewed by everyone and his dog over the last few weeks, he is in Yorkshire now my niece has been to a talk today at uni where he is the guest. He was in Leeds the other day and I missed him there were literally 1000s of people to greet him

He is far far from a bumbling idiot.

It must be him who West Yorkshire Police are hoping will help with their enquires in this story.
http://www.express.co.uk/news/uk/805...ds-city-centre

[DemolitionRed]

Originally Posted by Alf

It must be him who West Yorkshire Police are hoping will help with their enquires in this story.
http://www.express.co.uk/news/uk/805...ds-city-centre

Bugger

[Northern Monkey]

Originally Posted by Alf

It must be him who West Yorkshire Police are hoping will help with their enquires in this story.
http://www.express.co.uk/news/uk/805...ds-city-centre

[Brillopad]

Originally Posted by DemolitionRed

Labour, the party for the people.

Labour the party for those naive enough to push self-destruct button more like.

[DemolitionRed]

Originally Posted by Brillopad

Labour the party for those naive enough to push self-destruct button more like.

I'd say we are well informed people who don't fear change. We haven't been indoctrinated by the matrix.

[Brillopad]

Originally Posted by DemolitionRed

I'd say we are well informed people who don't fear change. We haven't been indoctrinated by the matrix.

You do fear change, Brexit change, maybe not you personally but many labour supporters to.

Besides you offer up change as always being a good thing and beneficial to the majority which is not the case.

[Kizzy]

Originally Posted by Brillopad

You do fear change, Brexit change, maybe not you personally but many labour supporters to.

Besides you offer up change as always being a good thing and beneficial to the majority which is not the case.

Don't you offer up brexit as a beneficial change?

Personally I don't fear brexit...I fear a tory brexit.

[Brillopad]

Originally Posted by Kizzy

Don't you offer up brexit as a beneficial change?

Personally I don't fear brexit...I fear a tory brexit.

I fear a labour Brexit - who will open the floodgates and destroy Britain and its economy.

[Kizzy]

Originally Posted by Brillopad

I fear a labour Brexit - who will open the floodgates and destroy Britain and its economy.

Are we back to immigration again? wow that's got to be a record.

[Kizzy]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iN3PJlSeWuk

Why's that? Because social care has been privatised, if you can't pay ....die

[Kizzy]

What does The Bow Group ( a conservative thinktank) think of the govt social care proposals?

'These proposals will mean that the majority of property owning citizens could be transferring the bulk of their assets to the government upon death for care they have already paid a lifetime of taxes to receive.

It is a tax on death and on inheritance. It will mean that in the end, the government will have taken the lion’s share of a lifetime earnings in taxes. If enacted, it is likely to represent the biggest stealth tax in history and when people understand that they will be leaving most of their estate to the government, rather than their families, the Conservative party will experience a dramatic loss of support.'

Here's hoping.

https://www.theguardian.com/politics...-politics-live

[smudgie]

Originally Posted by Kizzy

What does The Bow Group ( a conservative thinktank) think of the govt social care proposals?

'These proposals will mean that the majority of property owning citizens could be transferring the bulk of their assets to the government upon death for care they have already paid a lifetime of taxes to receive.

It is a tax on death and on inheritance. It will mean that in the end, the government will have taken the lion’s share of a lifetime earnings in taxes. If enacted, it is likely to represent the biggest stealth tax in history and when people understand that they will be leaving most of their estate to the government, rather than their families, the Conservative party will experience a dramatic loss of support.'

Here's hoping.

https://www.theguardian.com/politics...-politics-live

I can see some people won't be too happy.
But if you have the assets then why depend on the state to look after you?
You can still leave your little darlings Ł100k once you die.
Of course the flip side is, if people could lose 100 of thousands pounds for their parent to pay for their care they might consider other ways of caring for them, also I should imagine a lot more people will be signing their properties over to their kids before they reach needing care.

[Cherie]

Originally Posted by smudgie

I can see some people won't be too happy.
But if you have the assets then why depend on the state to look after you?
You can still leave your little darlings Ł100k once you die.
Of course the flip side is, if people could lose 100 of thousands pounds for their parent to pay for their care they might consider other ways of caring for them, also I should imagine a lot more people will be signing their properties over to their kids before they reach needing care.

I imagine they will move the goalposts on that as well, its 7 years I think currently, probably double or treble..

[DemolitionRed]

Originally Posted by Brillopad

You do fear change, Brexit change, maybe not you personally but many labour supporters to.

Besides you offer up change as always being a good thing and beneficial to the majority which is not the case.

I've only become a Labour supporter since the Coalition.

I offer nothing. I suggest change when it will clearly benefit my children and future grandchildren.

You have offered zilch, nothing, zero as to why we should keep the Tory government.

[smudgie]

Originally Posted by Cherie

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I imagine they will move the goalposts on that as well, its 7 years I think currently, probably double or treble..

Yes, very good possibility of that Cherie.
Plus, can everybody trust their kids to look after their interests once they have the assets.
Sell up and enjoy it all while you can I reckon.

[Cherie]

Originally Posted by smudgie

Yes, very good possibility of that Cherie.
Plus, can everybody trust their kids to look after their interests once they have the assets.
Sell up and enjoy it all while you can I reckon.:joker:

That would be my thinking

[Kizzy]

Youtube video

[Wizard.]

The Lib Dems poster was unveiled today

[Kizzy]

Put a bit of slap on and that IS her....

[Alf]

I seriously have no one to vote for.


Communism on one side vs Police state on the other. What a choice.


I could give my vote to UKIP, but there's no point, because they have no future.


Liberal and Greens, just no.