[joeysteele]

Originally Posted by Tozzie

never in a million years could I be friends with someone who supported fox hunting, it's barbaric and I just cannot get my head around why anyone would get entertainment from killing animals of any kind. I'd love it if these vile people could come back as a hunted animal and let them get ripped apart too. Hunting of any kind is just wrong in my view. I could never be friends with anyone who supported this.

Me neither Tozzie.

[Alf]

Originally Posted by UserSince2005

there is a comment on this already

[jaxie]

I can't see that vote being won in all honesty but if you feel strongly about it lobby your MP over it.

[joeysteele]

Originally Posted by jaxie

I can't see that vote being won in all honesty but if you feel strongly about it lobby your MP over it.

Of course it will be won,that is one of the reasons she wants a bigger majority.
MPs were lobbied in 2004 when Labour were holding a vote to ban this type of hunting.
The Cons had around 180 MPs then and 115 voted against it being banned and only 6 voted for the ban.

Imagine 370 to 400 Con MPs this time,freevote irrelevant,their leader putting forward a manifesto proposal.
This is the only Party that wants it back and they will vote in enough numbers to ensure it is legalised again.

The Cons never wanted it banned, they voted every vote comfortably against it being banned.
They will vote it back,no doubt in my mind,I would put all I had on that.
They have a leader determined to satisfy the hunting lobby and get it back.

People can delude themselves all they like,the Cons have never supported the ban and will with ease,if she gets a larger majority,vote to legalise this vile act again.

[Kazanne]

Originally Posted by joeysteele

Of course it will be won,that is one of the reasons she wants a bigger majority.
MPs were lobbied in 2004 when Labour were holding a vote to ban this type of hunting.
The Cons had around 180 MPs then and 115 voted against it being banned and only 6 voted for the ban.

Imagine 370 to 400 Con MPs this time,freevote irrelevant,their leader putting forward a manifesto proposal.
This is the only Party that wants it back and they will vote in enough numbers to ensure it is legalised again.

The Cons never wanted it banned, they voted every vote comfortably against it being banned.
They will vote it back,no doubt in my mind,I would put all I had on that.
They have a leader determined to satisfy the hunting lobby and get it back.

People can delude themselves all they like,the Cons have never supported the ban and will with ease,if she gets a larger majority,vote to legalise this vile act again.

Do you think they should also ban halal meat too Joey that is also barbaric,If I had my way NO animals would be cruelly treated at all for food or sport.but what are your thoughts on that .If we get onto the barbaric way we treat animals it goes way further than foxhunting,it happens with hares,deers game birds,etc.i don't eat meat but I do not dislike those who do,but I do dislike any cruelty to animals.

[joeysteele]

Originally Posted by Kazanne

Do you think they should also ban halal meat too Joey that is also barbaric,If I had my way NO animals would be cruelly treated at all for food or sport.but what are your thoughts on that .If we get onto the barbaric way we treat animals it goes way further than foxhunting,it happens with hares,deers game birds,etc.i don't eat meat but I do not dislike those who do,but I do dislike any cruelty to animals.

I would want to make sure no animal was slaughtered to comply with halal product.

I actually now myself do not eat meat anyways and have never knowingly eaten before any halal meat when I did eat meat.

This vote is to legalise foxhunting and I think it was Oscars Wilde who said foxhunting was the unspeakable in pursuit of the uneatable.

[Kazanne]

Originally Posted by joeysteele

I would want to make sure no animal was slaughtered to comply with halal product.

I actually now myself do not eat meat anyways and have never knowingly eaten before any halal meat when I did eat meat.

This vote is to legalise foxhunting and I think it was Oscars Wilde who said foxhunting was the unspeakable in pursuit of the uneatable.

Yes it was Joey,I remember that saying well, I actually think you might be celebrating come the election,I think we could be in for a shockthey better do a better job than last time, I really don't think I will be voting at all this time,it's all so depressing,no one is really standing out for me,I'm not sure May herself is bothered if she wins,LOL,enjoy it anyway I know you like the election nights.

[Amy Jade]

Originally Posted by joeysteele

Sadly Amy,yes people will support May and her Party on this by voting for her Party.
Even those claiming to detest this form of hunting are willing to take the risk of this coming back.

To me and I've had this view since a child who witnessed the end of a hunt while playing with friends which traumatised me, I not only detest this kind of hunting but also those who do it and those who support it and would legalise again them doing it too.

People who support this disgust me and it reveals a lot to me as the people they really are, with their sick cruel thinking too.

That is awful. I am sorry you had to see that. It would certainly be traumatic for anyone I think. It's just a horrible activity.

[joeysteele]

Originally Posted by Kazanne

Yes it was Joey,I remember that saying well, I actually think you might be celebrating come the election,I think we could be in for a shockthey better do a better job than last time, I really don't think I will be voting at all this time,it's all so depressing,no one is really standing out for me,I'm not sure May herself is bothered if she wins,LOL,enjoy it anyway I know you like the election nights.

Well,maybe it's a bit if a cheek for me but I won't be living in the UK once Autumn comes.
I will be voting and I hope my vote is one of hopefully millions that helps deny this atrocious woman a much bigger majority.
One that clips her wings too as to her truly planned vile vote on foxhunting.

I fear the UK is moving backwards as to caring,decency and justice under this govt.
Stepping back to legalising foxhunting,which should have been consigned to history long before even 2005.
Well that just tops the lot as to a really bad change backwards even more as to the UK.

[joeysteele]

Originally Posted by Amy Jade

That is awful. I am sorry you had to see that. It would certainly be traumatic for anyone I think. It's just a horrible activity.

It never left me Amy, I was a child,it made me physically sick after seeing it.
I had nightmares a good while after and so have hated with a passion all involved with and supporting these truly sick hunts.

[Mystic Mock]

Originally Posted by joeysteele

It never left me Amy, I was a child,it made me physically sick after seeing it.
I had nightmares a good while after and so have hated with a passion all involved with and supporting these truly sick hunts.

Tbf something like that will always stick out for you as imo it's a horrifying act, and is certainly going to upset a child.

[joeysteele]

Hi t

Originally Posted by Mystic Mock

Tbf something like that will always stick out for you as imo it's a horrifying act, and is certainly going to upset a child.

Dead right Mock, further once this kind of hunting was banned in 2005, until I left the area 5 years later never saw or heard of hunts taking place.
So the ban appeared to be being enforced okay there.

We get a lot about law and order from the Cons, yet here in our parliamentary democracy, the law was passed to ban this.
Yet we get, hunts are still going on now, with no prosecutions.
Well who has presided over the UK in power for the last 7 years, and not raised a finger to have the law enforced.
The Conservative party who have been the only party against the ban on hunting with dogs.

Allowing their hunt friends to get away with breaking said law.
Any law once brought in,has to have penalties and it has to be seen how it works and is stuck to.

This govt. has strengthened penalties in other offences but never considered doing anything about organised hunts deliberately breaking a UK law.
All they want to do is make it legal again.

That for me, says all about them,this really sick minded PM and her govt.