[Dominic]

https://krazilialove.wordpress.com/2...mind-all-myth/

[reece(:]

[MB.]

I love this song!

[LemonJam]

You could kinda liken his game to Tai's in Kaoh Rong - he's okay socially and holds a lot of power but utilizes it terribly.

[Thea]

The article is biased. That the author also criticizes Ika does not make her unbiased.

Kevin has never referred to himself as a mastermind. He is well aware that he doesn't always get people. His fans are equally aware of his errors.

Ika's mouth is not why she isn't winning. She isn't winning because she can't win comps. She made it to F4 because she had a meat shield. Demetres. And because Kevin Martin made errors.

You are mixing up "mastermind" with gamer. Kevin is an expert gamer. It was his strategy to lay low as long as possible. To not win comps and make sure there were bigger targets than him, such as Bruno. He wanted to stay off the radar of the alpha males and he did it.

I'm not going to go blow by blow but Ika was never loyal to the six she was just using them. Every week she was pondering which side of the house she wanted to be with. Bruno said the six was finished weeks before Cindy called the meeting to try to get everyone to "make up". Kevin wasn't that big on the six either. Bruno was his number one. Bruno, Neda and Ika were the ones good at reading the house. Neda knew that Ika and Sindy were sketchy but they got to her before she could get to them.

If anything Kevin's edit has shown that he is no mastermind. That he doesn't understand people making emotional decisions that don't benefit their game because he's a gamer. He studies numbers. He plays the odds.

Sindy blew her game when she took a shot at Neda too soon. After the fact she realized that Ika was not faithful to the six. Sindy should have stuck with Kevin, Bruno and Neda who were drawing in Dillon and Jackie when they realized Ika was on the other side. Instead Sindy destroyed was was left of the six, her 3 closest allies.

Kevin didn't speak up to save Neda because he was still playing his lay low game. He was never committed to the six. That was a mistake.

Kevin actually does care about William. He didn't want him to get hurt emotionally and at that point he suspected that William was getting too serious. Using the PoV would have been stupid for William to do. It would have made Will a bigger target. Kevin expects people to act rationally. He was telling Will to do what he believed Will was already going to do, refuse to use the veto because it would be irrational to use it. It was actually the best move. By seemingly putting Will's game first William wanted to save Kevin even more so took a chance and used the secret one on Kevin. William said afterwards that if he didn't have the secret one he would have used the other one on Kevin. Sometimes reverse psychology does work.

I don't know what Kevin fans you have been listening to but everyone I have heard commented were pulling their hair out over Kevin's HoH mistakes especially putting Dillon up rather than Karen which would have assured Demetres would have left.

Ika had a people game because she can't win comps. Kevin went the other way. Kevin played a gamers game. He started preparing for the comps as soon as he knew he was going back. He studied the game. He learned all the questions asked in all four season so he would know what to study. The last comp has always been questions about jury members. During the F4 veto competition he was the only one who knew that Dre had 13 slop cookies.

Demetres is very strong physically but he is a body builder and muscle isn't everything. Did you know that the more muscles a person has the longer it takes for them to recover oxygen? (I didn't, just read it recently). Kevin has the edge in speed and agility. Many comps have people running up and down stairs and it seems like the F4 competition included that component. Kevin took 19 minutes to finish that comp. Ika took 45 minutes. Karen and Demetres didn't get to finish.

I think Kevin would have won regardless due to his preparation but Ika didn't help herself or Demetres when she wouldn't let Demetres sleep the night before. Kevin had 4.5 hours sleep. Demetres and Ika had 2.5 hours of sleep because Ika wanted to tell Demetres a story that Karen had told her and wanted to talk. The night before she didn't sleep with him then woke him up at 4 in the morning. Demetres often spoke of being exhausted but Ika didn't care.

The edits didn't show Kevin as a mastermind. They showed Kevin thinking he knew what was going on when he didn't. Bruno would have gone home sooner if Ika had not told him that Bruno was the target not Jackie. Kevin was all excited about that because he didn't think William would double-cross him. Kevin fans were afraid Kevin was so excited about making a big move that he was going to do as William asked.

Kevin has a huge edge over Demetres to win the final HoH. It's three parts. The winner of the first comp faces off against the winner of the second comp in part 3. Kevin and Demetres will win the first two comps. Karen can't beat either of them. So, Kevin and Demetres will face off in the final round.

The final round has always been questions about the jury members. Kevin studied all the previous years questions so he would know what to study. He didn't just know Dre had 13 slop cookies by chance. Kevin also correctly gave the day Dallas gave an impromtu speech Kevin studied the information.

Demetres could still win. He is good at mental comps. He could hit the buzzer faster than Kevin and know the right answers. Even so, between Demetres and Kevin I am comfortable saying that Kevin knows a lot more about the jury members than Demetres does.

Mastermind in BB generally means expert strategist. Kevin is no strategist and hasn't been portrayed as such. Kevin is a master gamer. He practiced slide puzzles because they were used in a comp once. He studied incessantly.

I give Kevin 99% odds of winning the game. If he does win it he earned his win fair and square. He relied on his strengths as a gamer not as a mastermind social strategist because he's a gamer. Ika relied entirely on her social skills. There is nothing secret about that fact that winning comps is a major aspect of BB and it is one that can be prepared for and studied for. Kevin did that. He will have set a new North American record for the longest run of comp wins to final 2.

Yes Ika was very entertaining, she makes for great TV, but she was also mean to people and it has turned viewers off. She has lost in popularity because of her temper tantrums and selfishness. She doesn't study enough. That isn't Kevin's fault. Kevin has gained in popularity because he doesn't attack people even when they attack him. He has gained enormous respect for treating Karen so respectfully no matter how abusive she got. When she doled out the punishments it was Kevin who gave her a hug and told her it was okay. When Kevin gave his reasons for putting Ika on the block she went off on him like a lunatic and he just walked away. His fault or not Kevin has been isolated since he lost Bruno and has been the target of everyone. That is why he is seen as the underdog. People are rooting for Kevin because they know that he has to win either HoH or veto all the way to the end to win the game and that is an incredibly difficult thing to do. If he accomplishes it he will break the NA record.

So, Demika fan, Demika will lose because of their own shortcomings. Kevin will win because of his skills. He absolutely deserves the win and so will Demetres if he takes it. Ika does not deserve to win. Being great TV and a fabulous mastermind strategist is not enough to win BB.

It's like playing ball. You have to be able to catch as well as throw. You can be the best catcher or the best thrower in the world but you have to be able to do at least a bit of both to be a great player. Winners of BB have to have both. The winner has to be able to win comps at some point if only at the end. The last comps have a large knowledge component. Ika didn't study enough. She only has the social strategist side. I think Demetres is more well-rounded but didn't use his social skills much because Ika did all that. He also failed to study enough. Kevin chose to lay low for the first part of the game and start winning comps only when he needed to. That was his plan before he went into the game. He executed it.

Now you are saying he doesn't deserve the win because he didn't play like Ika. Hogwash. Kevin's strategy is leading him straight to the win. I think he also won another 11K during comps. That is what he is there for. To win money. In that sense, I guess he is a mastermind if he walks away with all that and 100K and a new car and another 10K of Brick furniture.

[Headie]

Article is perfect, flawless, legendary etc.

[VanessaFeltz.]

Kevin has played a really ****ty below average game and even Karen deserves to win over him

[Tregard]

All his skill seems to be in upselling his own game to the DR

[JerseyWins]

Originally Posted by Thea

The article is biased. That the author also criticizes Ika does not make her unbiased.

Kevin has never referred to himself as a mastermind. He is well aware that he doesn't always get people. His fans are equally aware of his errors.

Ika's mouth is not why she isn't winning. She isn't winning because she can't win comps. She made it to F4 because she had a meat shield. Demetres. And because Kevin Martin made errors.

You are mixing up "mastermind" with gamer. Kevin is an expert gamer. It was his strategy to lay low as long as possible. To not win comps and make sure there were bigger targets than him, such as Bruno. He wanted to stay off the radar of the alpha males and he did it.

I'm not going to go blow by blow but Ika was never loyal to the six she was just using them. Every week she was pondering which side of the house she wanted to be with. Bruno said the six was finished weeks before Cindy called the meeting to try to get everyone to "make up". Kevin wasn't that big on the six either. Bruno was his number one. Bruno, Neda and Ika were the ones good at reading the house. Neda knew that Ika and Sindy were sketchy but they got to her before she could get to them.

If anything Kevin's edit has shown that he is no mastermind. That he doesn't understand people making emotional decisions that don't benefit their game because he's a gamer. He studies numbers. He plays the odds.

Sindy blew her game when she took a shot at Neda too soon. After the fact she realized that Ika was not faithful to the six. Sindy should have stuck with Kevin, Bruno and Neda who were drawing in Dillon and Jackie when they realized Ika was on the other side. Instead Sindy destroyed was was left of the six, her 3 closest allies.

Kevin didn't speak up to save Neda because he was still playing his lay low game. He was never committed to the six. That was a mistake.

Kevin actually does care about William. He didn't want him to get hurt emotionally and at that point he suspected that William was getting too serious. Using the PoV would have been stupid for William to do. It would have made Will a bigger target. Kevin expects people to act rationally. He was telling Will to do what he believed Will was already going to do, refuse to use the veto because it would be irrational to use it. It was actually the best move. By seemingly putting Will's game first William wanted to save Kevin even more so took a chance and used the secret one on Kevin. William said afterwards that if he didn't have the secret one he would have used the other one on Kevin. Sometimes reverse psychology does work.

I don't know what Kevin fans you have been listening to but everyone I have heard commented were pulling their hair out over Kevin's HoH mistakes especially putting Dillon up rather than Karen which would have assured Demetres would have left.

Ika had a people game because she can't win comps. Kevin went the other way. Kevin played a gamers game. He started preparing for the comps as soon as he knew he was going back. He studied the game. He learned all the questions asked in all four season so he would know what to study. The last comp has always been questions about jury members. During the F4 veto competition he was the only one who knew that Dre had 13 slop cookies.

Demetres is very strong physically but he is a body builder and muscle isn't everything. Did you know that the more muscles a person has the longer it takes for them to recover oxygen? (I didn't, just read it recently). Kevin has the edge in speed and agility. Many comps have people running up and down stairs and it seems like the F4 competition included that component. Kevin took 19 minutes to finish that comp. Ika took 45 minutes. Karen and Demetres didn't get to finish.

I think Kevin would have won regardless due to his preparation but Ika didn't help herself or Demetres when she wouldn't let Demetres sleep the night before. Kevin had 4.5 hours sleep. Demetres and Ika had 2.5 hours of sleep because Ika wanted to tell Demetres a story that Karen had told her and wanted to talk. The night before she didn't sleep with him then woke him up at 4 in the morning. Demetres often spoke of being exhausted but Ika didn't care.

The edits didn't show Kevin as a mastermind. They showed Kevin thinking he knew what was going on when he didn't. Bruno would have gone home sooner if Ika had not told him that Bruno was the target not Jackie. Kevin was all excited about that because he didn't think William would double-cross him. Kevin fans were afraid Kevin was so excited about making a big move that he was going to do as William asked.

Kevin has a huge edge over Demetres to win the final HoH. It's three parts. The winner of the first comp faces off against the winner of the second comp in part 3. Kevin and Demetres will win the first two comps. Karen can't beat either of them. So, Kevin and Demetres will face off in the final round.

The final round has always been questions about the jury members. Kevin studied all the previous years questions so he would know what to study. He didn't just know Dre had 13 slop cookies by chance. Kevin also correctly gave the day Dallas gave an impromtu speech Kevin studied the information.

Demetres could still win. He is good at mental comps. He could hit the buzzer faster than Kevin and know the right answers. Even so, between Demetres and Kevin I am comfortable saying that Kevin knows a lot more about the jury members than Demetres does.

Mastermind in BB generally means expert strategist. Kevin is no strategist and hasn't been portrayed as such. Kevin is a master gamer. He practiced slide puzzles because they were used in a comp once. He studied incessantly.

I give Kevin 99% odds of winning the game. If he does win it he earned his win fair and square. He relied on his strengths as a gamer not as a mastermind social strategist because he's a gamer. Ika relied entirely on her social skills. There is nothing secret about that fact that winning comps is a major aspect of BB and it is one that can be prepared for and studied for. Kevin did that. He will have set a new North American record for the longest run of comp wins to final 2.

Yes Ika was very entertaining, she makes for great TV, but she was also mean to people and it has turned viewers off. She has lost in popularity because of her temper tantrums and selfishness. She doesn't study enough. That isn't Kevin's fault. Kevin has gained in popularity because he doesn't attack people even when they attack him. He has gained enormous respect for treating Karen so respectfully no matter how abusive she got. When she doled out the punishments it was Kevin who gave her a hug and told her it was okay. When Kevin gave his reasons for putting Ika on the block she went off on him like a lunatic and he just walked away. His fault or not Kevin has been isolated since he lost Bruno and has been the target of everyone. That is why he is seen as the underdog. People are rooting for Kevin because they know that he has to win either HoH or veto all the way to the end to win the game and that is an incredibly difficult thing to do. If he accomplishes it he will break the NA record.

So, Demika fan, Demika will lose because of their own shortcomings. Kevin will win because of his skills. He absolutely deserves the win and so will Demetres if he takes it. Ika does not deserve to win. Being great TV and a fabulous mastermind strategist is not enough to win BB.

It's like playing ball. You have to be able to catch as well as throw. You can be the best catcher or the best thrower in the world but you have to be able to do at least a bit of both to be a great player. Winners of BB have to have both. The winner has to be able to win comps at some point if only at the end. The last comps have a large knowledge component. Ika didn't study enough. She only has the social strategist side. I think Demetres is more well-rounded but didn't use his social skills much because Ika did all that. He also failed to study enough. Kevin chose to lay low for the first part of the game and start winning comps only when he needed to. That was his plan before he went into the game. He executed it.

Now you are saying he doesn't deserve the win because he didn't play like Ika. Hogwash. Kevin's strategy is leading him straight to the win. I think he also won another 11K during comps. That is what he is there for. To win money. In that sense, I guess he is a mastermind if he walks away with all that and 100K and a new car and another 10K of Brick furniture.

This article is legendary indeed

[Firewire]

Originally Posted by Thea

The article is biased. That the author also criticizes Ika does not make her unbiased.

Kevin has never referred to himself as a mastermind. He is well aware that he doesn't always get people. His fans are equally aware of his errors.

Ika's mouth is not why she isn't winning. She isn't winning because she can't win comps. She made it to F4 because she had a meat shield. Demetres. And because Kevin Martin made errors.

You are mixing up "mastermind" with gamer. Kevin is an expert gamer. It was his strategy to lay low as long as possible. To not win comps and make sure there were bigger targets than him, such as Bruno. He wanted to stay off the radar of the alpha males and he did it.

I'm not going to go blow by blow but Ika was never loyal to the six she was just using them. Every week she was pondering which side of the house she wanted to be with. Bruno said the six was finished weeks before Cindy called the meeting to try to get everyone to "make up". Kevin wasn't that big on the six either. Bruno was his number one. Bruno, Neda and Ika were the ones good at reading the house. Neda knew that Ika and Sindy were sketchy but they got to her before she could get to them.

If anything Kevin's edit has shown that he is no mastermind. That he doesn't understand people making emotional decisions that don't benefit their game because he's a gamer. He studies numbers. He plays the odds.

Sindy blew her game when she took a shot at Neda too soon. After the fact she realized that Ika was not faithful to the six. Sindy should have stuck with Kevin, Bruno and Neda who were drawing in Dillon and Jackie when they realized Ika was on the other side. Instead Sindy destroyed was was left of the six, her 3 closest allies.

Kevin didn't speak up to save Neda because he was still playing his lay low game. He was never committed to the six. That was a mistake.

Kevin actually does care about William. He didn't want him to get hurt emotionally and at that point he suspected that William was getting too serious. Using the PoV would have been stupid for William to do. It would have made Will a bigger target. Kevin expects people to act rationally. He was telling Will to do what he believed Will was already going to do, refuse to use the veto because it would be irrational to use it. It was actually the best move. By seemingly putting Will's game first William wanted to save Kevin even more so took a chance and used the secret one on Kevin. William said afterwards that if he didn't have the secret one he would have used the other one on Kevin. Sometimes reverse psychology does work.

I don't know what Kevin fans you have been listening to but everyone I have heard commented were pulling their hair out over Kevin's HoH mistakes especially putting Dillon up rather than Karen which would have assured Demetres would have left.

Ika had a people game because she can't win comps. Kevin went the other way. Kevin played a gamers game. He started preparing for the comps as soon as he knew he was going back. He studied the game. He learned all the questions asked in all four season so he would know what to study. The last comp has always been questions about jury members. During the F4 veto competition he was the only one who knew that Dre had 13 slop cookies.

Demetres is very strong physically but he is a body builder and muscle isn't everything. Did you know that the more muscles a person has the longer it takes for them to recover oxygen? (I didn't, just read it recently). Kevin has the edge in speed and agility. Many comps have people running up and down stairs and it seems like the F4 competition included that component. Kevin took 19 minutes to finish that comp. Ika took 45 minutes. Karen and Demetres didn't get to finish.

I think Kevin would have won regardless due to his preparation but Ika didn't help herself or Demetres when she wouldn't let Demetres sleep the night before. Kevin had 4.5 hours sleep. Demetres and Ika had 2.5 hours of sleep because Ika wanted to tell Demetres a story that Karen had told her and wanted to talk. The night before she didn't sleep with him then woke him up at 4 in the morning. Demetres often spoke of being exhausted but Ika didn't care.

The edits didn't show Kevin as a mastermind. They showed Kevin thinking he knew what was going on when he didn't. Bruno would have gone home sooner if Ika had not told him that Bruno was the target not Jackie. Kevin was all excited about that because he didn't think William would double-cross him. Kevin fans were afraid Kevin was so excited about making a big move that he was going to do as William asked.

Kevin has a huge edge over Demetres to win the final HoH. It's three parts. The winner of the first comp faces off against the winner of the second comp in part 3. Kevin and Demetres will win the first two comps. Karen can't beat either of them. So, Kevin and Demetres will face off in the final round.

The final round has always been questions about the jury members. Kevin studied all the previous years questions so he would know what to study. He didn't just know Dre had 13 slop cookies by chance. Kevin also correctly gave the day Dallas gave an impromtu speech Kevin studied the information.

Demetres could still win. He is good at mental comps. He could hit the buzzer faster than Kevin and know the right answers. Even so, between Demetres and Kevin I am comfortable saying that Kevin knows a lot more about the jury members than Demetres does.

Mastermind in BB generally means expert strategist. Kevin is no strategist and hasn't been portrayed as such. Kevin is a master gamer. He practiced slide puzzles because they were used in a comp once. He studied incessantly.

I give Kevin 99% odds of winning the game. If he does win it he earned his win fair and square. He relied on his strengths as a gamer not as a mastermind social strategist because he's a gamer. Ika relied entirely on her social skills. There is nothing secret about that fact that winning comps is a major aspect of BB and it is one that can be prepared for and studied for. Kevin did that. He will have set a new North American record for the longest run of comp wins to final 2.

Yes Ika was very entertaining, she makes for great TV, but she was also mean to people and it has turned viewers off. She has lost in popularity because of her temper tantrums and selfishness. She doesn't study enough. That isn't Kevin's fault. Kevin has gained in popularity because he doesn't attack people even when they attack him. He has gained enormous respect for treating Karen so respectfully no matter how abusive she got. When she doled out the punishments it was Kevin who gave her a hug and told her it was okay. When Kevin gave his reasons for putting Ika on the block she went off on him like a lunatic and he just walked away. His fault or not Kevin has been isolated since he lost Bruno and has been the target of everyone. That is why he is seen as the underdog. People are rooting for Kevin because they know that he has to win either HoH or veto all the way to the end to win the game and that is an incredibly difficult thing to do. If he accomplishes it he will break the NA record.

So, Demika fan, Demika will lose because of their own shortcomings. Kevin will win because of his skills. He absolutely deserves the win and so will Demetres if he takes it. Ika does not deserve to win. Being great TV and a fabulous mastermind strategist is not enough to win BB.

It's like playing ball. You have to be able to catch as well as throw. You can be the best catcher or the best thrower in the world but you have to be able to do at least a bit of both to be a great player. Winners of BB have to have both. The winner has to be able to win comps at some point if only at the end. The last comps have a large knowledge component. Ika didn't study enough. She only has the social strategist side. I think Demetres is more well-rounded but didn't use his social skills much because Ika did all that. He also failed to study enough. Kevin chose to lay low for the first part of the game and start winning comps only when he needed to. That was his plan before he went into the game. He executed it.

Now you are saying he doesn't deserve the win because he didn't play like Ika. Hogwash. Kevin's strategy is leading him straight to the win. I think he also won another 11K during comps. That is what he is there for. To win money. In that sense, I guess he is a mastermind if he walks away with all that and 100K and a new car and another 10K of Brick furniture.

who tf has the time

[Thea]

Originally Posted by Firewire

who tf has the time

In my case a 62 year old retired woman who got addicted on the live feeds and has the time to hang out at a forum.

I didn't watch Kevin's first season and I didn't like him at the beginning of this season but he earned my respect and admiration. He is a really good sport.

He made some huge mistakes which makes it all the more impressive that he is still standing.

At the end of the day, Kevin, Demetres and Ika will respect each other and each other's games because they know how difficult it is to get there unless you are the goat.

Demetres and Kevin have mutual respect as competitors. It's called good sportsmanship.

[Calderyon]

Thea´s article the actual legendary one.

[Jamie89]

The fact that Kevin had to resort to gay baiting/cock teasing in order to progress is enough to show me that he's not much of a 'mastermind' or a gameplayer I can respect.

[MB.]

Still awful!

[reece(:]

Originally Posted by Jamie89

The fact that Kevin had to resort to gay baiting/cock teasing in order to progress is enough to show me that he's not much of a 'mastermind' or a gameplayer I can respect.

Clock it

[JerseyWins]

That Kevin Robert Martin pulled through for the win with that awful gameplay of his.

[Thea]

Yes well William liked it so that's good enough for me. He's a grown man.

To those who deem his gameplay "not the best" I bet he would love to play poker with people who think style is the thing not winning.