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Old 26-05-2017, 12:35 PM #1
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This is what Enoch Powel said long before some of us were born,1968 ,do you agree with what he said all those years ago,Was he right or was he wrong?

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Some of his points may very well have been true, but I find his 'rivers of blood' speech very racist and can't agree with it.
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Most of the middle bit's true but instead of it being the immigrants fault it's the conservative's with cuts to NHS, education and housing. So not in the way he imagined..

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Enoch Powell was a right twat, so I half agree with you there
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If I'd been around then most of his comments would have disgusted me.
I read more racism as to a fair bit he said.

So,no I would not have agreed or supported him.

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Some of his points may very well have been true, but I find his 'rivers of blood' speech very racist and can't agree with it.
Was he a Labour man or Conservative Smudgie? what was the river of blood speech,let me google it.
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Enoch Powell was a right twat, so I half agree with you there
Did you know him?
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If Enoch Powell was born into an immigrant family he would of had a different view.
Should one person decide how and where another person should live based on skin colour and the country you were born in/
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[QUOTE=thesheriff443;9316225]If Enoch Powell was born into an immigrant family he would of had a different view.
Should one person decide how and where another person should live based on skin colour and the country you were born in?
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Did you know him?
Oh, okay, I'm sure all the racism was an act and he was lovely behind closed doors
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Oh, okay, I'm sure all the racism was an act and he was lovely behind closed doors
I only asked as you called him a twat,I was only asking about him as was chatting with someone about it today wondered how many on here knew of him as a politition,that is all Were you around when he was in parliament? if you don't ask you never learn anything.
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I only asked as you called him a twat,I was only asking about him as was chatting with someone about it today wondered how many on here knew of him as a politition,that is all Where you around when he was in parliament? if you don't ask you never learn anything.
Kazanne its like Oliver twist asking for more food.
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Was he a Labour man or Conservative Smudgie? what was the river of blood speech,let me google it.
Tory.
I can remember him in his latter years.
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The one thing that he has definitely got right is there is an overpopulation crisis in the UK due to open door immigration which means that jobs are hard to come by for anybody living in the UK (including the immigrants) it will be harder to get seen at the NHS due to the overpopulation, and of course there will be issues with Schools as it's gonna be very hard to get into a top School if there's loads more people in the country.

However Enoch Powel seems to just be against all immigrants just because he doesn't like them which I completely disagree with as some immigration is good for this country financially.
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I can remember him in his latter years.
I have done a bit of reading up on him Smudgie,he seemed very controversial for his time,very outspoken too,the Tories sacked him apparently.
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This is what Enoch Powel said long before some of us were born,1968 ,do you agree with what he said all those years ago,Was he right or was he wrong?

I don't think i can disagree with any of that particular quote tbh.
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every word of this is accurate
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This is what Enoch Powel said long before some of us were born,1968 ,do you agree with what he said all those years ago,Was he right or was he wrong?

No doubting every word of that has come to fruition. We are living his prediction and many had no say in that. There are many kinds of oppression and that is one of them.
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100% Right !!
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Was he a Labour man or Conservative Smudgie? what was the river of blood speech,let me google it.
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Wow...........i hoped i'd never in this day and age see people who call themselves British acting like cheeleaders for such a truly repugnant man!

Our ancestors gave their lives fighting to stop people like him from ever ruling this Country and i'm extremely grateful for that.

Cheer on...........
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Yes definitely if we carry on the way things are. It will be worse under Labour who let them all in come hell or high water.
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Closed for cleaning, can you all please stay ontopic and stop getting personal with/insulting eachother when i reopen it please
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I feel like this is a tall order on a thread that's basically asking "Was this well known historical racist right or wrong" ...

I mean... personal and insulting... sort of is the only topic here.

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