[rusticgal]

We have 'The clique' and we have 'The outsiders'...
The hub of the clique IMO are Lotan/Tom/Joe...arrogant,self confident and bitchy
The hub of 'The Outsiders' are Raph/Hannah/Deborah...boring/miserable and bitchy.
Then we have Charlotte/Ellie/Chanelle/Kieron..Charlotte Kieron and Ellie spend more time with The clique but don't display their arrogance or bitchiness but they favour their company more because they can't bear the life sucking negativity of the Outsiders
..Chanelle flits between the two groups although she favours the Outsiders mainly because Raph eats out the palm of her hand....but they are not the fun group she would normally bend towards....but equally Lotan...Head of the Clique demands and gets the attention Chanelle craves but she can't compete hence her apparent loyalty to the Outsiders. However she isn't loyal...she was prepared to let Raph take the rap for the egg pranks....and her sex talk/peeing in the hot tub etc is everything The Outsiders despise...
It will be interesting to see how the new girls fit in...can they change the dynamics and maybe create the middle ground....a new group.
Summing up I think Lotan needs to go ASAP....without him I think there might be less division...he really is the fly in the ointment.

[fext91]

I d say the only actual clicks right now are :
Lotan, Tom & Kieran is a click
Channel & Raph is a click
Deborah & Hannah is a click
The rest are pretty much not really in a click

Ellie basically Lotan's sheep
Joe basically happy being called geezer by the 3 guys
Charlotte basically floats between because she have a friend in both sides
These makes the bigger click

Raph & Channel, Hannah & Deborah feel isolated by the others
Therefore form another bigger click

[Nicky91]

Charlotte is simply playing her strategy like securing her safety within the group but also observing everything it is quite clever

i kinda think she's quite shy and that's why she uses her sweetness, there is a fun side to her i've now seen, i want that bit to develop more and more from her


also in the egg gate prank, she was staying out of it, like usual causing no drama, i can still see her going far

[Vanessa]

There was always going to be a divide. People tend to make friends with who they have in common with. Lotan and Raph each drawn to people similar to them.

[Nicky91]

Originally Posted by Vanessa

There was always going to be a divide. People tend to make friends with who they have in common with. Lotan and Raph each drawn to people similar to them.

Charlotte is no way similar to Lotan


but i already had expected this rivalry between Lotan & Tom vs Raph


Raphie unfortunately is the biggest threat to them at winning, then Chanelle and Hannah for them i think

[Kazanne]

There is nothing wrong with people forming friendships with people they have more in common with,it happens in all walks of life,this is why we have friends,sometimes opposites can be drawn to each other too.

[Nicky91]

Originally Posted by Kazanne

There is nothing wrong with people forming friendships with people they have more in common with,it happens in all walks of life,this is why we have friends,sometimes opposites can be drawn to each other too.

true

it's just some have a more nasty personality and others don't, but on other perspectives they might be drawn to each other


i really for example i had Ellie as a possible winner, but now i'm so not sure anymore, maybe not even the final for her


i think Charlotte has taken her role as boring housemate who can go far and maybe go third place or something like that

i'm seeing Chanelle as a winner now

[Garfie]

[QUOTE=rusticgal;9383049
Summing up I think Lotan needs to go ASAP....without him I think there might be less division...he really is the fly in the ointment.[/QUOTE]

I totally agree with this. The dynamics could change quite dramatically without him.

[Nicky91]

Originally Posted by Garfie

I totally agree with this. The dynamics could change quite dramatically without him.

i think in both VTS and VTE he might not be safe, i can't see him being popular or well liked

[Vanessa]

Originally Posted by Garfie

I totally agree with this. The dynamics could change quite dramatically without him.

I agree.

[sampvt]

The only clique in that house is Raph and his 3 girls... The rest are just Housemates that have alliances but mix with everyone else.

BB also had a hand in it by splitting the bedrooms

[sampvt]

Lotan isnt my fav by any means, but he is the glue that holds that show together. Leave the rest of these numpties leaderless and they will all revert back to bed.

[Nicky91]

Originally Posted by sampvt

Lotan isnt my fav by any means, but he is the glue that holds that show together. Leave the rest of these numpties leaderless and they will all revert back to bed.

NO, if Lotan goes some others might get more chances to shine, so Lotan must go

[sampvt]

Originally Posted by Nicky91

NO, if Lotan goes some others might get more chances to shine, so Lotan must go

They said the same about sucky going and about Kieran, these idiots cant survive without an alpha and if lotan goes, joe takes over or maybe tom, can you envisage that, I cant.

[LeatherTrumpet]

There is only 3 people in the house who arrogantly avoid others

the 2 nasty sisters and raph

once they are removed the house can have some fun

[girlfighter1992]

If Lotan goes next week which I think he will I still think there would be a divide in the house its not Lotan's fault there is a divide.

You cant help who are your friends are and give me Lotan, Tom, Kieran, Joe, Ellie, Charlotte and Savannah over Raph, Chanelle, Hannah, Deborah and Isabella any day.

I also feel like the exiles as Raph calls them are playing the biggest game

[rionablue]

Originally Posted by rusticgal

We have 'The clique' and we have 'The outsiders'...
The hub of the clique IMO are Lotan/Tom/Joe...arrogant,self confident and bitchy
The hub of 'The Outsiders' are Raph/Hannah/Deborah...boring/miserable and bitchy.
Then we have Charlotte/Ellie/Chanelle/Kieron..Charlotte Kieron and Ellie spend more time with The clique but don't display their arrogance or bitchiness but they favour their company more because they can't bear the life sucking negativity of the Outsiders
..Chanelle flits between the two groups although she favours the Outsiders mainly because Raph eats out the palm of her hand....but they are not the fun group she would normally bend towards....but equally Lotan...Head of the Clique demands and gets the attention Chanelle craves but she can't compete hence her apparent loyalty to the Outsiders. However she isn't loyal...she was prepared to let Raph take the rap for the egg pranks....and her sex talk/peeing in the hot tub etc is everything The Outsiders despise...
It will be interesting to see how the new girls fit in...can they change the dynamics and maybe create the middle ground....a new group.
Summing up I think Lotan needs to go ASAP....without him I think there might be less division...he really is the fly in the ointment.

A well put together post. If Lotan is up for eviction this week which I have reservations about as he is popular with everyone except the bedroom bitches but even if he IS. Its a vote to save and rest assured he will be SAVED as he is an attractive man(my friends view I am not swooning) and without sounding sexist WOMEN will vote to keep him in. Its like so many reality shows where usually men do better (both Britians and Americas got talent RARELY if ever have a young woman as a finalist as voted by the public) Lotan is in it for the long haul and if people want him out they will have to vote like crazy for everyone else. At least in vote to evict there might be SOME chance but even at that I very much doubt it.

[rusticgal]

Originally Posted by rionablue

A well put together post. If Lotan is up for eviction this week which I have reservations about as he is popular with everyone except the bedroom bitches but even if he IS. Its a vote to save and rest assured he will be SAVED as he is an attractive man(my friends view I am not swooning) and without sounding sexist WOMEN will vote to keep him in. Its like so many reality shows where usually men do better (both Britians and Americas got talent RARELY if ever have a young woman as a finalist as voted by the public) Lotan is in it for the long haul and if people want him out they will have to vote like crazy for everyone else. At least in vote to evict there might be SOME chance but even at that I very much doubt it.

I agree...it will take a lot to get him out unless VTE comes into play.

[Vicky.]

I don't think there are any cliques as such tbh.

Lotan Tom and Keiran get on with each other and tend to spend most of the time together. Occasionally Ellie and Charlotte will join them, else those 2 are off together sunbathing or whatever. Not sure where the new girls fit yet

Then we have Hannah and Deborah who obviously will spend a lot of time together. Often joined by Raph who is whispering in their ears that everyone else hates them (basically) when its not true. Then because of this the sisters think the other 'group' are against them and stop mixing...but complain that the other group don't mix either. Raph mixes with both groups but from what we have seen this is mainly to run between the groups tittle tattling

Chanelle floats between the 'groups' I think. But definitely seems more drawn to Raph, Deborah and Hannah.

Its basically just like real life. Some people get on better with certain people and you are likely to spend more time with someone you get on with than someone you either don't get on with or don't particularly care about

All of this said though, on the little bits of LF we have it seems that really everyone does get on quite well together. The divides don't seem to exist as they all move freely and happily between each 'group'. So I think BB is playing up this 'groups' thing getting ready for the final where they will push as hard as they can for one of the 'outsiders' and one of 'the clique' to be final 2, which will be a vote winner

[Vicky.]

Originally Posted by Garfie

I totally agree with this. The dynamics could change quite dramatically without him.

Oh definitely. Lotan is clearly the 'alpha' of the group and everyone does seem to listen to him and...'obey'. Even Chanelle who seems to think she does what she likes and says what she thinks pretty much bowed down to him when picking which of the new housemates were coming in.

The dynamics would change massively if he left.

I like him sometimes but I kinda hope he is evicted soon just to see how the house is without his (huge) presence.

[Nicky91]

Originally Posted by girlfighter1992

If Lotan goes next week which I think he will I still think there would be a divide in the house its not Lotan's fault there is a divide.

You cant help who are your friends are and give me Lotan, Tom, Kieran, Joe, Ellie, Charlotte and Savannah over Raph, Chanelle, Hannah, Deborah and Isabella any day.

I also feel like the exiles as Raph calls them are playing the biggest game

minus Lotan and Tom, but i do agree with some of your list


and god bless you



pray that Charlotte will have more fun moments like with the chocolate fight

[LeatherTrumpet]

Here for Tom Charlotte power coupling to take them into the final week

[Nicky91]

Originally Posted by LeatherTrumpet

Here for Tom Charlotte power coupling to take them into the final week

Tom definitely needs to redeem himself for Charlotte, after evicting her mom, so he owes her final week i think


i really even believe that Hannah, Joe, Deborah might not make the final


about Raph's team, i don't have much faith in them either if they keep going against the fun group