[Brillopad]

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2017...e-could-price/

As if most of us weren't aware that the kind of rash promises reeled out at election time wouldn't be problematic. All that naive and premature jubilation.

[Smithy]

Do you not have anything better to do than google and post Jeremy Corbyn articles all day?

[Brillopad]

Originally Posted by Smithy

Do you not have anything better to do than google and post Jeremy Corbyn articles all day?

It is current news and very relevant to all of us. Just because anti-Corbyn opinions don't suit your political views doesn't mean they can't be addressed.

There have been plenty of anti-May threads and posts so, in the interests of fairness, all viewpoints and related news sources should be aired.

[MB.]

Originally Posted by Brillopad

It is current news and very relevant to all of us. Just because anti-Corbyn opinions don't suit your political views doesn't mean they can't be addressed.

There have been plenty of anti-May threads and posts so, in the interests of fairness, all viewpoints and related news sources should be aired.

Anti-May threads from the past week: 1
Anti-Corbyn threads from the past week: 7 (all of which were started by you)

[Brillopad]

Originally Posted by MB.

Anti-May threads from the past week: 1
Anti-Corbyn threads from the past week: 7 (all of which were started by you)

And?

One week is nothing! Maybe you should go back further if it bothers you so much.

[Kazanne]

Originally Posted by MB.

Anti-May threads from the past week: 1
Anti-Corbyn threads from the past week: 7 (all of which were started by you)

Does it matter why does it bother you so much,you dont have to take part in them.

[Kazanne]

Originally Posted by MB.

Anti-May threads from the past week: 1
Anti-Corbyn threads from the past week: 7 (all of which were started by you)

maybe Corbyns been more of a twat

[Brillopad]

Originally Posted by Kazanne

maybe Corbyns been more of a twat

Exactly. I thought it was an interesting and fact-based article. Maybe that's why TS has such a problem with it!

[Toy Soldier]

Originally Posted by Kazanne

Does it matter why does it bother you so much,you dont have to take part in them.

I'd say Brillo (and a couple of notable others) constantly spamming SD with what is essentially the same thread over, and over, and over again every single day probably bothers a lot of people who use this forum... but that's just a guess. Since the GE 16 days ago - Brillo has stared ELEVEN threads that are explicitly anti-corbyn / anti-labour in the title. Just Brillo. Several other threads that purport to be about other issues in the title... but reveal themselves to be anti-corbyn within a post or two. It's getting ridiculous.

Oh and that's not to mention other people's threads about completely unrelated things where Brillo enters within the first few posts to say "O yeh but WHAT ABOUT CORBYN".

Perhaps there should be an "anti-corbyn stuff" sticky and all of the threads can be merged into that?

[MB.]

Originally Posted by Brillopad

And?

One week is nothing! Maybe you should go back further if it bothers you so much.

Originally Posted by Kazanne

Does it matter why does it bother you so much,you dont have to take part in them.

Because you claim it's in the name of "balance", yet making a new anti-Corbyn thread every day when there isn't anything near as frequent on the other side is anything but balanced

Considering they all seem to amount to the same thing (you're not a Corbyn fan, we get it), you might as well just have your own Corbyn megathread and have done with it - it'll save on all the times you have to click 'new thread' after all...

[Toy Soldier]

Originally Posted by Brillopad

Exactly. I thought it was an interesting and fact-based article. Maybe that's why TS has such a problem with it!

It's an agenda driven article full of supposition but, to be frank, at this point I just have very little interest in discussing these articles you keep spamming because - much like the papers - your own reasons for posting them are always the same and we've heard it all before, so, so many times.

[Smithy]

Personally I just find it sad that someone is so obsessed with hating someone else, why not make pro may threads instead?

[Toy Soldier]

Originally Posted by Smithy

Why not make pro may threads instead?

I'm not sure anyone has such a vivid imagination that they could make a new pro-May thread every day .

[Brillopad]

Originally Posted by Toy Soldier

It's an agenda driven article full of supposition but, to be frank, at this point I just have very little interest in discussing these articles you keep spamming because - much like the papers - your own reasons for posting them are always the same and we've heard it all before, so, so many times.

Is it such an effort not to click on the thread? If you don't like the title, then don't bother. We are all free to do either that or post a critique - you usually do the latter which is your choice.

[Brillopad]

Originally Posted by Smithy

Personally I just find it sad that someone is so obsessed with hating someone else, why not make pro may threads instead?

How one-sided is that. I don't see you saying that to all the May haters who are often a lot more personal and vitriolic about her even down to insulting her appearance. Talk about an unbalanced and unfair post.

[joeysteele]

Originally Posted by MB.

Anti-May threads from the past week: 1
Anti-Corbyn threads from the past week: 7 (all of which were started by you)

Even those who detest Corbyn cannot stop acting out their obsession to try,although not succeeding,in discrediting him.
While they will never admit the failings of the one they give adoring and undying support to,namely Mrs May.

Many Labour people on here,myself included,had and have reservations as to him but even to us,he has done admittedly far better than we believed possible.

I admit I detest Mrs May as a politician,I have never said anything different on here since joining,I didn't like her even before I joined here.

Because I can't stand the woman,I have not and would not make a,good or bad, single thread about her never mind endless multiple ones.
Corbyn now must really be admired or feared now as a political campaigner and leader,as to friend and foe alike.

[Brillopad]

Originally Posted by joeysteele

Even those who detest Corbyn cannot stop acting out their obsession to try,although not succeeding,in discrediting him.
While they will never admit the failings of the one they give adoring and undying support to,namely Mrs May.

Many Labour people on here,myself included,had and have reservations as to him but even to us,he has done admittedly far better than we believed possible.

I admit I detest Mrs May as a politician,I have never said anything different on here since joining,I didn't like her even before I joined here.

Because I can't stand the woman,I have not and would not make a,good or bad, single thread about her never mind endless multiple ones.
Corbyn now must really be admired or feared now as a political campaigner and leader,as to friend and foe alike.

I don't personally insult his appearance like many Corbyn supporters do to May. Now that is low.

I condem his impractical policies, his history and his unfetered grab on power due to mass hysteria from desperate people jumping on a band-wagon of seeing this man as the second-coming who will cure all their woes. It is sad.

If you know so much you explain why the article is wrong. I bet you can't.

[Withano]

You're obsessed.

[Brillopad]

Originally Posted by Withano

You're obsessed.

Nope - but I don't respond to attempted intimidation such as name-calling. Sticks and stones.

One has to ask themselves why some have such a problem with me posting several threads on a politician currently trying to become PM. He is news and his policies and motives are open to scrutiny.

[Kazanne]

Originally Posted by Brillopad

Nope - but I don't respond to attempted intimidation such as name-calling. Sticks and stones.

One has to ask themselves why some have such a problem with me posting several threads on a politician currently trying to become PM. He is news and his policies and motives are open to scrutiny.

Yes it does seem some are trying to shut you down brillo,they have no problem when hating on TM,so i dont see their problem,afterall it is your opinion ,isn't that what we are all here for to vent our opinions, if they dont like the subject just pass it by,it's easy,I do it all the time,but you have a nice little band on your back there,I hope your shoulders are broard

[DemolitionRed]

This is one thing I'm going to side with Brillo about. I don't believe increasing the minimum wage is going to greatly benefit low paid earners because it will very likely create unemployment.

Most poor people are living on one to one and a half minimum wage salaries. When that minimum wage rises, so do the costs of products we buy... they have to. The people who will really benefit from this are the middle earners (a partner who is earning above the minimum wage and the second earner who works on a minimum wage but doesn't really have to work if they don't want to).

One thing Blair did was bring in tax credit for low earners and encourage 'in work benefits' and I believe this greatly helped bottom end earners without threatening jobs. Unfortunately the Tories have been cutting these benefits with zest and this is having a detrimental affect on the working poor. Corbyn should be re-instating these wage top-ups in my opinion, instead of increasing the minimum wage.

Edited to say: Rising the minimum wage could hurt the people we most want to help.

[Brillopad]

Originally Posted by Kazanne

Yes it does seem some are trying to shut you down brillo,they have no problem when hating on TM,so i dont see their problem,afterall it is your opinion ,isn't that what we are all here for to vent our opinions, if they dont like the subject just pass it by,it's easy,I do it all the time,but you have a nice little band on your back there,I hope your shoulders are broard

Depends on my day. But generally.

[DemolitionRed]

Like TS suggested, we really do need to have a sticky for all things May and all things Corbyn.

[joeysteele]

Originally Posted by MB.

Because you claim it's in the name of "balance", yet making a new anti-Corbyn thread every day when there isn't anything near as frequent on the other side is anything but balanced

Considering they all seem to amount to the same thing (you're not a Corbyn fan, we get it), you might as well just have your own Corbyn megathread and have done with it - it'll save on all the times you have to click 'new thread' after all...

Again,totally valid points.

However look,I think all publicity is good publicity, so if Corbyn haters want to talk about him that's fine by me.
It means they likely see he is heading for greater success.

What they don't do however is balance their seemingly endless energy against Corbyn on justified or unjustified reasoning,with any real criticism of Mrs May or whoever other leader they support.

It actually amuses me that the people raising threads and therefore talking about Corbyn are in the main his band of haters.
He certainly has many rattled it seems.
That's all good in my book.

Again,all publicity is good publicity,from wherever or whoever it comes from.

[Withano]

Originally Posted by Brillopad

Nope - but I don't respond to attempted intimidation such as name-calling. Sticks and stones.

One has to ask themselves why some have such a problem with me posting several threads on a politician currently trying to become PM. He is news and his policies and motives are open to scrutiny.

What do you mean nope lol? You read at least 1 article about him a day, instead of ignoring them. Considering being most people don't post every single thing they read, I'm guessing you read a hell of a lot more than one a day. That's bordering on obsession! It's not an insult. We all have topics of interests, Corbyn is clearly yours.
I agree though, you could make a single anti-Corbyn thread and make tibb and yourself less one dimensional looking. Something tells me you want the reaction, and not the debate though.