[Jedman]

I know the guy acted like a bit of a dick sometimes but he's hardly the monster some people try and make him out to be.

Pretty much everyone agrees issabelles comments were a low blow.

Though can't blame her for wanting to get revenge on him as he was pretty mean to her before.

But Hannah Deborah, and chanelle are far more aggressive housemates than lotan was.

Deborah would have probably decapitated ellie if raph hadn't got between them.

[Cal.]

Lotan was horrible and was gunning for Isabelle as soon as he realised she wasn't going to fall at his feet like Ellie and Savannah. The same reason he hates Chanelle, Hannah and Deborah.

[bbfanzo]

hes a little boy. hes finished in the uk

[Nicky91]

he was indeed provoked, by Isabelle, Chanelle, Hannah

and yes i agree there are more nasty people in there than he was, i now even more think of Raph's team as the nasty clique

[sampvt]

Just about sums it up but if raph wasnt there, the racist would only have gotten into her face and breathed germs all over her. People like that dont use violence, they are verbal thugs, not physical ones.

[Kazanne]

Originally Posted by Cal.

Lotan was horrible and was gunning for Isabelle as soon as he realised she wasn't going to fall at his feet like Ellie and Savannah. The same reason he hates Chanelle, Hannah and Deborah.

Or maybe it's because they are loud,brash,sly and crude,not everyone likes those types.

[DrunkerThanMoses]

Not at all, he treated Isabelle horribly from the start, the way he spoke to her and behind her back, she stood up for herself, and even though I dont really her and think her comments were a low blow, he was being a dick to her again. His attitude towards certain women were embarrassing, and his act to be the top dog was a massive see through for me anyone for weeks. I am glad he is gone. Wish he took Isabelle and Ellie with him

[bitontheslide]

Can't say i feel sorry for him. He set himself up for it unfortunately. Don't think any of the other housemates should be taking the moral high ground though, as many of them are just thick, aggressive trolls

[Jedman]

There were times where lotan got on fine with chanelle Deborah and hannah though I hardly think he hated them, they just formed this victim mentality and would kick off whenever he joked around and then wouldnt be calm enough to have a discussion about it or accept an apology. Lotan very rarely raised his voice and he tried to discuss things calmly whereas chanelle and hannah would start shouting and escalate minor situations at the drop of a hat.

Agree he didn't treat issabelle well though but he was probably out of patience by that point.

[chuff me dizzy]

Very much so,he was pushed and pushed

[Kazanne]

Originally Posted by Jedman

I know the guy acted like a bit of a dick sometimes but he's hardly the monster some people try and make him out to be.

Pretty much everyone agrees issabelles comments were a low blow.

Though can't blame her for wanting to get revenge on him as he was pretty mean to her before.

But Hannah Deborah, and chanelle are far more aggressive housemates than lotan was.

Deborah would have probably decapitated ellie if raph hadn't got between them.

He was no worse as you say than Hannah,Isobelle or Chanelle, so he commented on Isobells tan, most of us have done that, I cant stop looking at it,it's awful and will attract negative comments,she looks like a freak and if any of them were true friends they would tell her how ridiculous she looks,it does nothing for her at all. Lotan shouldn't have said some of the things he did,but by the same token neither should she,Hannah is just ridiculous and aggressive, there is no distinction really ,they have all been aggressive and nasty.

[DrunkerThanMoses]

Originally Posted by Jedman

There were times where lotan got on fine with chanelle Deborah and hannah though I hardly think he hated them, they just formed this victim mentality and would kick off whenever he joked around and then wouldnt be calm enough to have a discussion about it or accept an apology. Lotan very rarely raised his voice and he tried to discuss things calmly whereas chanelle and hannah would start shouting and escalate minor situations at the drop of a hat.

The problem is he got involved with everyone business when he didnt have too, he was sucking up to the camera to get airtime to be seen as the house hero, when it was painfully obvious what he was doing for weeks.

[DrunkerThanMoses]

Originally Posted by chuff me dizzy

Very much so,he was pushed and pushed

And he did the same to others.

[sampvt]

Isobe went in there to create drama and she seemed to go straight for the 3 lads. She was probably coached by the producers to do so. Sadly its backfired and Lotan was ready to go anyway. Once she joined Raphs clique, her fate was doomed. Raphs clique is trying to con the house but they cant con the public.

[smudgie]

No.
I reckon he brought it all on himself.

[DrunkerThanMoses]

Originally Posted by sampvt

Isobe went in there to create drama and she seemed to go straight for the 3 lads. She was probably coached by the producers to do so. Sadly its backfired and Lotan was ready to go anyway. Once she joined Raphs clique, her fate was doomed. Raphs clique is trying to con the house but they cant con the public.

Well at the moment they are as look on every poll the top 3 is Izzy, Chanelle and Raph

[Drew.]

He got himself involved in everything, even if an argument wasn't about him he'd be there running his mouth off. He has nobody to blame but himself, the way he treated people in there resulted in them reacting to him most of the time, he did his best to make himself look a victim though

[azi]

He did it to himself by being rude to the other women and they ended him

[Owoaje1993]

Lotan in my opinion is someone that is just a complete dickhead and isabelle massive respect for her to bring it up my rule in life is if you are going to treat people like **** then you should get 10000 times more

[Kazanne]

I feel sorry for anyone who has to endure days and nights with the glum chums.

[DrunkerThanMoses]

Originally Posted by Kazanne

I feel sorry for anyone who has to endure days and nights with the glum chums.

I feel sorry for anyone who has to have a man call them ***** and bitches

[Kazanne]

Originally Posted by DrunkerThanMoses

I feel sorry for anyone who has to have a man call them ***** and bitches

Well perhaps they shouldn't display those traits then.

[chuff me dizzy]

Originally Posted by Kazanne

I feel sorry for anyone who has to endure days and nights with the glum chums.

Can you imagine sharing a house with 2 deranged violent sisters,an orange bird who can't string a sentence together , someone who pees in the pool and a slime ball who runs back telling his clique everything you've said,but adding his own bits to it ? I would think I was in hell

[Mick]

Originally Posted by sampvt

Isobe went in there to create drama and she seemed to go straight for the 3 lads. She was probably coached by the producers to do so.

I wonder how often this happens with the second wave HMs, they earn the chance via agreeing to the producers hints or wishes.?

[DrunkerThanMoses]

Originally Posted by Kazanne

Well perhaps they shouldn't display those traits then.

Say you dont like them then and ignore them, dont call them nasty things and be dicks to them.