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Old 27-06-2017, 05:13 PM #1
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Default Now they want to allow all abortion

We have the highest abortion rates in the world

1 million babies lives are terminated every 6 years

Now the liberals want to allow all abortion right up to conception
so it could be 8 months , beating heart, brain, everything
who knows how much it will suffer and how much the mother and father will suffer

why dont they just supply more money to offer support and advice and time to parents who are confused or undecided...also to show they the other options like adoption, fostering etc

Sadly it times of black and white populist politically correct decisions I can see this going only one way with violent left wing protestors and radical feminists demanding hard line tyrannical no compromise laws that simply allow any and all abortions...8 months old, maybe a mother would decide she hates her boyfriend and have an abortion under the influence of drugs , drink , depression, mental health or pure hate or revenge? maybe under financial pressure? career decision? or worried the child may be disabled or born into poverty


This is the dangerous opening of the floodgates ...outside of 24 weeks and reasons of rape incest health reasons....if this is allowed we could see millions of late terminated babies. A tragedy in many cases which will not only see babies killed off but also destroy the lives of these potential parents forever
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It would help if you didn't make up stories just to falsely justify your hate of the left. I've looked up your claims and found nothing. I assume by 'up to conception' you mean 'up to birth' and there is nothing to suggest what you said is at all true.

Also one million babies haven't been terminated over 6 years, if that number is accurate then it's one million unviable foetuses that have been terminated. Do you consider clipping your nails to be murder as well?

Suggesting Fostering or adoption as an alternative is naive and cruel. You would rather a child bounce around the system for the sake of your beliefs? You would want people who have no business being parents to be made to become parents? Naive and short sighted.

Just another man trying to dictate what women can and can't do with their own bodies.
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Who are these people who want this?

I cant find anything to suggest anyone is lobbying for late abortions like this.
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Did you sit behind two old ladies who were talking about this trash on the bus or something?This is so unrealistic.
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Now the liberals want to allow all abortion right up to conception
Did you read a satirical aricle?
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Did you read a satirical aricle?
Was about to mention this
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No source for this thread, can it be closed please?
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Truth is not fibbing.
It was all over the morning news on BBC.
It is the BMA who are looking into this change.
Sounds absolutely ridiculous to be honest, how can you abort a full term pregnancy, a baby will pop out somewhere and is more likely to be alive...do they intend to terminate these babies?
The person interviewed did stress it would only be on rare occasions this would happen.
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Truth is not fibbing.
It was all over the morning news on BBC.
It is the BMA who are looking into this change.
Sounds absolutely ridiculous to be honest, how can you abort a full term pregnancy, a baby will pop out somewhere and is more likely to be alive...do they intend to terminate these babies?
The person interviewed did stress it would only be on rare occasions this would happen.
It was in the paper as well. Those that apparently looked but couldn't find anthing didn't look very hard.
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Truth is not fibbing.
It was all over the morning news on BBC.
It is the BMA who are looking into this change.
Sounds absolutely ridiculous to be honest, how can you abort a full term pregnancy, a baby will pop out somewhere and is more likely to be alive...do they intend to terminate these babies?
The person interviewed did stress it would only be on rare occasions this would happen.
Thanks for that smudgie,people need to stop thinking they know better than anyone else,and do some searching.
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Thanks for that smudgie,people need to stop thinking they know better than anyone else,and do some searching.
I watched it in bed, can't remember what day it was but it should be on the BBC website.
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I watched it in bed, can't remember what day it was but it should be on the BBC website.
Thanks,going to look for it smudgie.
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If true that is absolutely disgusting.We should be reducing the time limit not increasing it.
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they think its ok to abort a full term baby ? have I read this right?
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Thanks for that smudgie,people need to stop thinking they know better than anyone else,and do some searching.
I did search and cant find anything which is why I asked. People need.to stop surmising that people haven't looked when they ask for more information
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It would help if you didn't make up stories just to falsely justify your hate of the left. I've looked up your claims and found nothing. I assume by 'up to conception' you mean 'up to birth' and there is nothing to suggest what you said is at all true.

Also one million babies haven't been terminated over 6 years, if that number is accurate then it's one million unviable foetuses that have been terminated. Do you consider clipping your nails to be murder as well?

Suggesting Fostering or adoption as an alternative is naive and cruel. You would rather a child bounce around the system for the sake of your beliefs? You would want people who have no business being parents to be made to become parents? Naive and short sighted.

Just another man trying to dictate what women can and can't do with their own bodies.
I think The Truth is right that they could get people to advise them to consider putting the child up for adoption, but fundamentally leave the choice to the Mother/parents.
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yes it's all over the bbc . you clearly didn't bother looking just tried to shout me down as usual typical liberals. .no doubt another sly way to reduce population under the guise of political correctness..as for the radical feminist argument over half these babies are female ..and yes I'd rather the get a chance at life and if that runs the risk of the odd foster home that's better than death at 8 months

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Thanks for that smudgie,people need to stop thinking they know better than anyone else,and do some searching.
People did search though. I also searched and found nothing so just ignored the thread given it has no link or anything besides a bit of a rant.

Wherever this has come from, terminating fullterm pregnancies (conception is when sperm meets egg...) is horrific and I really doubt that 'liberals' are asking for this. Maybe a couple of eejits but not many.
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Tbf with the clues you gave, truth, nothing comes up. It does come up when you type in 'British Medical Association' which is quite a bit different to 'liberals'. And obviously it has nothing to do with conception lol.
You can't tell a story completely incorrectly and then get mad that people don't understand your misinterpretation.
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If true this is horrendous. Far better to have free contraception and good basic sex education to prevent unwanted pregnancies to start with.
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I think The Truth is right that they could get people to advise them to consider putting the child up for adoption, but fundamentally leave the choice to the Mother/parents.
It's unreasonable to expect a woman to carry a baby to full term if she doesn't want to. If someone wants to give their baby up for adoption then they'll come to that conclusion by themselves, they don't need a bunch of men whispering in their ears to persuade them to put another child into the system.
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Dr Chisholm added: "Abortion is currently a crime, with exceptions, throughout the UK. Following the debate the majority of doctors were clear that abortion should be treated as a medical issue rather than a criminal one.

"What must be clear is that decriminalisation does not mean deregulation. The debate today and the BMA's new policy only relate to whether abortion should or should not be a criminal offence; the policy does not address the broader issue of when and how abortion should be available."
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So it was a medical organisation that discussed the possibility, not 'the liberals' and they only want to decriminalise it but still keep it regulated by medical organisations instead of the courts?

I honestly don't see the problem. The actual story is also nothing like how the Truth presented it. Perhaps a change of username is needed.

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