[arista]

http://news.sky.com/story/donald-tru...-gard-10935478

[Mr Trump waded into the debate by referencing Pope Francis' plea for the toddler's parents to be allowed to "accompany and treat their child until the end".

The US President wrote on Twitter: "If we can help little #CharlieGard, as per our friends in the U.K. and the Pope, we would be delighted to do so."]


No harm going to USA for treatment
its better that Nothing

[AnnieK]

They have exhausted every legal arguement though so surely there is nothing now that can be done? Can't see the court of human rights over turning its judgement just coz trump said he supports them. As sad as it is....I think they have to just spend their time with him and let him go.

[Cherie]

Originally Posted by AnnieK

They have exhausted every legal arguement though so surely there is nothing now that can be done? Can't see the court of human rights over turning its judgement just coz trump said he supports them. As sad as it is....I think they have to just spend their time with him and let him go.

Agree, I think the parents have become slightly deranged with the stress and as awful as it is, they need to let him go. Trump coming in at the 12th hour isn't helping anyone, I'm surprised at the Pope because if it weren't for medical assistance he wouldn't be alive.

[Greg!]

Why's he getting involved, multiple courts have already made a final decision. He's so annoying UGH

[arista]

Originally Posted by Greg!

Why's he getting involved, multiple courts have already made a final decision. He's so annoying UGH

Blame the Pope

[the truth]

top man trump pro life all the way.

[Greg!]

Originally Posted by the truth

top man trump pro life all the way.

brain damaged and in constant never ending pain isn't my idea of life.

[DemolitionRed]

Originally Posted by the truth

top man trump pro life all the way.

Except for his own citizens. Thousands of Americans die because they can't afford medical treatment.

[LeatherTrumpet]

Originally Posted by arista

Blame the Pope

maybe he could ask his pal God to help or perhaps he is too busy trying in vain to save the 20,000 children who die every day of hunger in the world

the pope is a chalatan of the most evil kind

[DemolitionRed]

Or perhaps we could ask the pope to help the American poor

[Alf]

I don't have any opinion on this story, but I found this article interesting.

https://www.thesun.co.uk/living/3318...rd-court-case/

[Marsh.]

Originally Posted by LeatherTrumpet

maybe he could ask his pal God to help or perhaps he is too busy trying in vain to save the 20,000 children who die every day of hunger in the world

the pope is a chalatan of the most evil kind

Yes, because the Pope and his religion teaches to pray to God for magic cures and he will save everybody from death.

Oh wait.... No, you've completely missed the point on purpose to make some pathetic point of your own.

[Tom4784]

It's gross that Trump would wade into such a tragic story and try to use it to grab some good press for once.

Odious ogre of a man.

[LeatherTrumpet]

Originally Posted by Marsh.

Yes, because the Pope and his religion teaches to pray to God for magic cures and he will save everybody from death.

Oh wait.... No, you've completely missed the point on purpose to make some pathetic point of your own.

And they 'pray to God why'

Is 'he' not omnipotent?

Just what is the point. Because this should be really good...

[GiRTh]

Originally Posted by Dezzy

It's gross that Trump would wade into such a tragic story and try to use it to grab some good press for once.

Odious ogre of a man.

x2

[Alf]

Originally Posted by Dezzy

It's gross that Trump would wade into such a tragic story and try to use it to grab some good press for once.

Odious ogre of a man.

He's done many things like this, before he was even President. Including sending his own plane to bring an ill child for treatment. And has never bragged about it.

http://thepoliticalinsider.com/airli...to-the-rescue/

So I'd disagree, and probably think he actually cares.

[Marsh.]

Originally Posted by LeatherTrumpet

And they 'pray to God why'

Is 'he' not omnipotent?

Just what is the point. Because this should be really good...

Well, there's no point in me going off topic and into that with you?

But I can assure you they don't sit there praying for magic money trees and to stop death.

[Vanessa]

That's nice of him. I hope they give that little boy a chance

[the truth]

Originally Posted by Greg!

brain damaged and in constant never ending pain isn't my idea of life.

Who made you the grim reaper? Who gave you the right to decide who should be killed? How do you know for absolute certain the treatment for charlie in america couldnt save his life or prolong it for many years. Who are you to decide people with brain damage must die? The BMA is meant to save life thats what the hippocratic oath is meant to mean a life long oath to saving lives. All we hear from the left and the BMA is violent support for mass abortion with no limits and the right to die . do you agree with no limit abortions? Do you agree women who want 8 month abortion because the baby may be disabled should be allowed to?

When labour were in power not only did 1000s of people die of thirst in hospitals like in stafford. World record levels of filth in UK hospitals with endless MRSA which has been eradicated since the tories came in in 2010 and brought in tougher rules and stronger complaints procedures within hospitals. Not only did record numbers die of blood clots under labour (25000 a year where are the protest marches over the biggest killer of british people in history?) Thousands of people had nil by mouth given to them without consulting the family and were refused treatment in some cases not because the patient was terminally ill but instead severaly disabled?

The left signed a contract with the GP doctors in 2004 which allowed 90% of them not to do out of hours work anymore. This is what has caused the junior doctors strike. By left wing one eyed rioters and mob rule had seen them ignore the failings of their own party and this disastrous contract. In wales they started taking peoples organs without their legal consent. Across the UK under labour, billions was spent on plastic surgery, whilst the welsh nhs ran endlessly higher debts and waiting lists doubled and virtually all ambulance emergency targets were missed and life or death operations cancelled. Time to prioritise between life saving treatment and superficial surgery too

But when this is pointed out to the left, their only defence is 1) oh that wasnt us it was new labour. Pathetic. It WAS labour who illegally bombed iraq...and half that lot are still in power like harmon yvette cooper nice guy andy burnham lammy , tom watson etc 2) Oh and its all the daily mails fault

[DemolitionRed]

Originally Posted by the truth

Who made you the grim reaper? Who gave you the right to decide who should be killed? How do you know for absolute certain the treatment for charlie in america couldnt save his life or prolong it for many years. Who are you to decide people with brain damage must die? The BMA is meant to save life thats what the hippocratic oath is meant to mean a life long oath to saving lives. All we hear from the left and the BMA is violent support for mass abortion with no limits and the right to die . do you agree with no limit abortions? Do you agree women who want 8 month abortion because the baby may be disabled should be allowed to?

When labour were in power not only did 1000s of people die of thirst in hospitals like in stafford. World record levels of filth in UK hospitals with endless MRSA which has been eradicated since the tories came in in 2010 and brought in tougher rules and stronger complaints procedures within hospitals. Not only did record numbers die of blood clots under labour (25000 a year where are the protest marches over the biggest killer of british people in history?) Thousands of people had nil by mouth given to them without consulting the family and were refused treatment in some cases not because the patient was terminally ill but instead severaly disabled?

The left signed a contract with the GP doctors in 2004 which allowed 90% of them not to do out of hours work anymore. This is what has caused the junior doctors strike. By left wing one eyed rioters and mob rule had seen them ignore the failings of their own party and this disastrous contract. In wales they started taking peoples organs without their legal consent. Across the UK under labour, billions was spent on plastic surgery, whilst the welsh nhs ran endlessly higher debts and waiting lists doubled and virtually all ambulance emergency targets were missed and life or death operations cancelled. Time to prioritise between life saving treatment and superficial surgery too

But when this is pointed out to the left, their only defence is 1) oh that wasnt us it was new labour. Pathetic. It WAS labour who illegally bombed iraq...and half that lot are still in power like harmon yvette cooper nice guy andy burnham lammy , tom watson etc 2) Oh and its all the daily mails fault

I suggest you know **** about the 'hippocratic oath' (an archaic oath written 2500 years ago) because if you did, you would know that both cutting of the flesh and abortion is forbidden. You would know that most universities have their own oath which is a modern day moral compass that includes, not over treating.

As for the rest of your post; what does it have to do with Charlie Gard and GOS. Why use Charlie and the fantastic hospital he's in, as ammunition for your latest Labour rant?

[Kazanne]

Apparently there is hope in the US as a little boy with the same condition as Charlie has reached his 6th birthday,where there is life there is hope and surely he deserves a chance.

[bitontheslide]

I get really angry when prominent figures who know absolutely zero about the situation stick their beaks in

They are not helping, they are perpetuating both the little lads pain and the parents false hope.

The boy is in constant pain, not able to move, hear or even cry. Really, people should think of what they are putting this baby through. I don't think any one of us would want to endure that 24 hours a day, 7 days a week

The american treatment cannot cure him, it can only reduce some of the SYMPTOMS, nothing more

[Toy Soldier]

Originally Posted by bitontheslide

The american treatment cannot cure him, it can only reduce some of the SYMPTOMS, nothing more

Yes, I think that's where some of the confusion lies... people think or are being lead to believe that he's being denied the shot at a cure.

There is no cure. He has an incurable genetic illness. It's tragic, but those are the facts - he cannot recover, his disease will kill him, the only question is how long that can be delayed.

I'm in two minds over this to be honest. As far as I can tell, from my own point of view, it would be far kinder to let him go. He's not being killed. He is being allowed to die naturally. However, on the other hand, I am slightly uncomfortable with the fact that the decision making process is being taken away from the parents and given to the doctors and courts... surely that should only happen if the parents have been found to be negligent or incapable of making these decisions?

[the truth]

Originally Posted by Kazanne

Apparently there is hope in the US as a little boy with the same condition as Charlie has reached his 6th birthday,where there is life there is hope and surely he deserves a chance.

exactly but rather than give him a chance the left can't wait for him to die

[the truth]

Originally Posted by bitontheslide

I get really angry when prominent figures who know absolutely zero about the situation stick their beaks in

They are not helping, they are perpetuating both the little lads pain and the parents false hope.

The boy is in constant pain, not able to move, hear or even cry. Really, people should think of what they are putting this baby through. I don't think any one of us would want to endure that 24 hours a day, 7 days a week

The american treatment cannot cure him, it can only reduce some of the SYMPTOMS, nothing more

speak for yourself I'd rather have a chance to live