[MTVN]

Didn't really know much about her beforehand but from what I'd heard and from her vt and entrance I thought she'd be a good housemate. Instead she's stayed completely in the background and hardly been involved. I can't really remember her featuring on the highlights at all, not even having an interesting chat with anyone. Even bloody Barry and Derek contributed more tonight when they were choosing which housemates to shred.

[Marsh.]

Bad editing. They always exclude housemates.

[Jase.]

Either her or Shaun.

[bitontheslide]

have to agree, i had high hopes for her and she has been very ordinary

[BBUK-Fan]

It's down to the editing. They want to keep showing Sam and Jordan and Sarah.

[Cherie]

Someone was snoring when Sarah and Paul were arguing, Was it her if it was was its her biggest contribution

[BBUK-Fan]

Originally Posted by bitontheslide

have to agree, i had high hopes for her and she has been very ordinary

We want ordinary celebs. Not here for Z Listers

[Shaun]

Nah I'm bored to ****ing tears of people writing off the ones that're never edited into contrived romance or feuding storylines as "bores", it's sf repetitive.

[Amy Jade]

Yeah she has been tbh

Marissa has been mine though, I had big hopes she would be firey but she's been pretty meh

[Marsh.]

Originally Posted by Shaun

Nah I'm bored to ****ing tears of people writing off the ones that're never edited into contrived romance or feuding storylines as "bores", it's sf repetitive.

Are people honestly wanting her to wade into the middle of an argument or start putting the moves on Chad?

When they say disappointed, what on earth were they wanting?

[bitontheslide]

Originally Posted by BBUK-Fan

We want ordinary celebs. Not here for Z Listers

i'm all for normal, but, so far she just hasn't featured. There is time yet of course. The reason she is a disappointment is she has much more to her than the awful z listers who are non starters

[Marsh.]

Originally Posted by Amy Jade

Yeah she has been tbh

Marissa has been mine though, I had big hopes she would be firey but she's been pretty meh

Maybe because there's nothing in there for her to be fiery about?

It would be awful if she was fiery out of nowhere for the sake of it like it appears Trisha is doing.

[Cherie]

Originally Posted by Shaun

Nah I'm bored to ****ing tears of people writing off the ones that're never edited into contrived romance or feuding storylines as "bores", it's sf repetitive.

She had the opportunity during the shredding task to make some sort of impact, she was happy to let Paul prattle on, I think she is mortified to be in there, that's how it come across

[reece(:]

Whoever said Claire King 2.0 was right

[MTVN]

Originally Posted by Shaun

Nah I'm bored to ****ing tears of people writing off the ones that're never edited into contrived romance or feuding storylines as "bores", it's sf repetitive.

Also repetitive to just blame the editing whenever someone is accused of being a dull housemate

Like I said even Shaun and Derek have been more involved so far than Helen. They were assertive with the shredding task today putting forward their views instead of just letting the others choose for them. Helen said next to nothing.

[Shaun]

Originally Posted by Cherie

She had the opportunity during the shredding task to make some sort of impact, she was happy to let Paul prattle on, I think she is mortified to be in there, that's how it come across

And she spoke up for Sarah. What more do you want her to do? Spend 10 minutes waffling on about how she might not like Sandi and why she deserves to be up?

She's a sweetheart and made some funny observations in the talent show judging task but as usual unless you're crying in the diary room or holding hands and sunbathing, you're a bore.

[Marsh.]

Originally Posted by MTVN

Also repetitive to just blame the editing whenever someone is accused of being a dull housemate

Not really. When someone hasn't featured at all then we have nothing to judge them on?

It's not the first time the editors have focussed in on one or two of the same storylines (showmance and feud) to the expense of everything and anything else.

How I miss the days of actually watching these people have conversations and interactions that doesn't involve screaming at one another half cut or trying to decipher bed cover movement on the infrared cam.

[Mystic Mock]

She's hardly getting shown tbf.

However on what I do get to see she seems to be like Shaun in being very weak willed but likable. I hope that I've not got the wrong impression of her being likable.

[MTVN]

Anyway I didn't make this thread to attack Helen, just to encourage a bit of discussion about one of the housemates who has hardly been talked about on here so far. My view is that she has been disappointing compared to how I thought she'd be and atm I'm not sure what she is going to bring to this series. Perhaps there have been things that I've missed though so if people have reasons to think she will prove herself a good housemate I'd be interested to hear them

[Cherie]

Originally Posted by Shaun

And she spoke up for Sarah. What more do you want her to do? Spend 10 minutes waffling on about how she might not like Sandi and why she deserves to be up?

She's a sweetheart and made some funny observations in the talent show judging task but as usual unless you're crying in the diary room or holding hands and sunbathing, you're a bore.

She offered no opinion other than to back Brandi up as to Sarah's fragility, surely if someone is fragile putting them up for first eviction is counter productive, it would have been nice to hear her own opinion, she has had plenty on BOTS, and nobody ever has said holding hands is good tv

[LaLaLand]

She's pretty much exactly how I thought she'd be tbh.

[Marsh.]

Surely evicting them would be the best thing.

Sarah is clearly an addict with other problems such as insomnia and should not be in the house.

People are also confusing her being an alcoholic with "contributing". It's quite sick in a way.

[Mystic Mock]

Originally Posted by MTVN

Anyway I didn't make this thread to attack Helen, just to encourage a bit of discussion about one of the housemates who has hardly been talked about on here so far. My view is that she has been disappointing compared to how I thought she'd be and atm I'm not sure what she is going to bring to this series. Perhaps there have been things that I've missed though so if people have reasons to think she will prove herself a good housemate I'd be interested to hear them

I'm hoping that Helen might be eccentric.

It's hard to tell though with the show not giving her more footage. She could be really horrible to give out the other side of the argument but we just don't know which is poor editing on Ch5's part.

[Cherie]

Originally Posted by Marsh.

Surely evicting them would be the best thing.

Sarah is clearly an addict with other problems such as insomnia and should not be in the house.

People are also confusing her being an alcoholic with "contributing". It's quite sick in a way.

I think they know she is unlikely to be evicted over three Americans, so it was mean spirited if they genuinely think she is fragile

[Marsh.]

Originally Posted by Cherie

I think they know she is unlikely to be evicted over three Americans, so it was mean spirited if they genuinely think she is fragile

Maybe they genuinely want Sarah out regardless of that?

Her being "fragile" isn't a free pass. That's her mess, she put herself in the show.