[Brillopad]

https://news.vice.com/story/extremis...about-the-left

Right or left - extremists from both sides are as bad as each other. To vilify one group whilst at the same time making excuses for the other is undefendable.

[Tom4784]

Well no, until the 'extreme left' start murdering people then they are not as bad. I'm quite tired of this whole 'both sides are to blame' **** in light of recent events. Neo Nazis are to blame for Charlottesville, the left didn't arm them, the left didn't make that driver kill an innocent bystander. The Left didn't put a gun in the hands of the man that killed Jo Cox, the left didn't cause that attack on the mosque by a Right wing extremist a few months ago.

Right Wing Terrorism is a problem and not one you can blame the left for, it's a disgusting case of scapegoating to do so.

[Toy Soldier]

The whole thing has become increasingly tribal and no longer has anything to do with the actual politics or anyone's genuine personal beliefs; "left" and "right" have become meaningless, we have to suffer an endless onslaught of buzzwords and buzzphrases. People (most with very little genuine political understanding) pick "a side" and then adopt the rhetoric of that side. The whole world has turned into a boring, petty playground. Except it's a playground where people actually get hurt.

[Alf]

Originally Posted by Dezzy

Well no, until the 'extreme left' start murdering people then they are not as bad. I'm quite tired of this whole 'both sides are to blame' **** in light of recent events. Neo Nazis are to blame for Charlottesville, the left didn't arm them, the left didn't make that driver kill an innocent bystander. The Left didn't put a gun in the hands of the man that killed Jo Cox, the left didn't cause that attack on the mosque by a Right wing extremist a few months ago.

Right Wing Terrorism is a problem and not one you can blame the left for, it's a disgusting case of scapegoating to do so.

Remember a few months back when that Bernie supporter opened fire on republican party members playing baseball, Which left Steve Scalise in a critical condition, and the guy was only stopped by being taken out? Or did you forget?

[Alf]

Originally Posted by Dezzy

Well no, until the 'extreme left' start murdering people then they are not as bad. I'm quite tired of this whole 'both sides are to blame' **** in light of recent events. Neo Nazis are to blame for Charlottesville, the left didn't arm them, the left didn't make that driver kill an innocent bystander. The Left didn't put a gun in the hands of the man that killed Jo Cox, the left didn't cause that attack on the mosque by a Right wing extremist a few months ago.

Right Wing Terrorism is a problem and not one you can blame the left for, it's a disgusting case of scapegoating to do so.

Remember women being beating by protesters, because a gay Englishman was going to give a speech in Berkley? Or did you forget?

[Dominic]

Yes the extreme left is awful so is the extreme right

[Alf]

You only see what your eyes want to see
How can life be what you want it to be? You're frozen
When your heart's not open

Words of the Leftie, Madonna.



She also said

"I've often thought about blowing up the White house"

[Tom4784]

Originally Posted by Alf

Remember a few months back when that Bernie supporter opened fire on republican party members playing baseball, Which left Steve Scalise in a critical condition, and the guy was only stopped by being taken out? Or did you forget?

A crazed gunman prick with no ties to extremism does not make a compelling argument that the Left are as much to blame as Nazi terrorists.

Keep scapegoating for Nazis though.

[Tom4784]

Originally Posted by Alf

Remember women being beating by protesters, because a gay Englishman was going to give a speech in Berkley? Or did you forget?

Again, students in a safezone bubble beng twats and lashing out because they have no real life experience (or links to extremism) is not a good comparison to actual terrorism.

Keep trying, you might make a valid point one day.

[Brillopad]

Originally Posted by Dezzy

Well no, until the 'extreme left' start murdering people then they are not as bad. I'm quite tired of this whole 'both sides are to blame' **** in light of recent events. Neo Nazis are to blame for Charlottesville, the left didn't arm them, the left didn't make that driver kill an innocent bystander. The Left didn't put a gun in the hands of the man that killed Jo Cox, the left didn't cause that attack on the mosque by a Right wing extremist a few months ago.

Right Wing Terrorism is a problem and not one you can blame the left for, it's a disgusting case of scapegoating to do so.

No the left just went there to cause trouble and inflamed the situation. They knew exactly what they were doing and got the reaction they expected enabling them to behave the same way.

As the article showed there have been plenty of left wing attacks that any logical thinking person can't turn round and blame the right for.

[Tom4784]

Originally Posted by Brillopad

No the left just went there to cause trouble and inflamed the situation. They knew exactly what they were doing and got the reaction they expected enabling them to behave the same way.

As the article showed there have been plenty of left wing attacks that any logical thinking person can't turn round and blame the right for.

So you're defending Nazis, I'm not surprised.

[Alf]

Yes Dezzy, we're all Nazis. Well worked out.

You do make me laugh.

[Toy Soldier]

Originally Posted by Alf

Yes Dezzy, we're all Nazis. Well worked out.

You do make me laugh.

Naw, just Nazi sympathisers.

[Alf]

Originally Posted by Toy Soldier

Naw, just Nazi sympathisers.

Name me one Nazi I've sympathised with?

[Toy Soldier]

Originally Posted by Alf

Name me one Nazi I've sympathised with?

John.

[Tom4784]

Originally Posted by Alf

Yes Dezzy, we're all Nazis. Well worked out.

You do make me laugh.

If someone refuses to condemn Nazis for their actions and instead look to vindicate them by blaming the left then it's only common sense to assume they have sympathies for the Nazis based on those actions.

[Alf]

Originally Posted by Toy Soldier

Naw, just Nazi sympathisers.

I've been banned for much less on this forum, then what you're accusing me of here.

[Alf]

Originally Posted by Dezzy

If someone refuses to condemn Nazis for their actions and instead look to vindicate them by blaming the left then it's only common sense to assume they have sympathies for the Nazis based on their actions.

Go look at the first post I made on this subject, in the original thread.

What is the first thing I say? I'll tell you and you can go check it out.

I said "Terrorist bastard"

[Toy Soldier]

Originally Posted by Alf

I've been banned for much less on this forum, then what you're accusing me of here.

As Dezzy says though it's a simple and demonstrable statement of fact; anyone who attempts to find reason for the actions of Nazis or who suggests that they were provoked (and hence, more justified) in their actions is, by definition, sympathising with said Nazis and is therefore a Nazi sympathiser.

No judgement.

[Alf]

Originally Posted by Toy Soldier

As Dezzy says though it's a simple and demonstrable statement of fact; anyone who attempts to find reason for the actions of Nazis or who suggests that they were provoked (and hence, more justified) in their actions is, by definition, sympathising with said Nazis and is therefore a Nazi sympathiser.

No judgement.

But I'm not defending them, I'm merely pointing out the hypocrisy from lefties who are just as bad.

I'm saying the extremist on both sides of the scale are shyt-houses.

[Toy Soldier]

Originally Posted by Alf

Go look at the first post I made on this subject, in the original thread.

What is the first thing I say? I'll tell you and you can go check it out.

I said "Terrorist bastard"

To be fair I was referring to Brillo's posts more than yours but - being totally upfront here - I do have a habit of tarring with the same brush when it comes to a handful of 4 or 5 members. I think understandably. Try to understand. Be a TS sympathiser .

[Brillopad]

Originally Posted by Dezzy

So you're defending Nazis, I'm not surprised.

Just as I expected.

[Brillopad]

Originally Posted by Dezzy

If someone refuses to condemn Nazis for their actions and instead look to vindicate them by blaming the left then it's only common sense to assume they have sympathies for the Nazis based on those actions.

So what does that make lefties who refuse to condemn the extreme left for their actions?

[Brillopad]

Originally Posted by Toy Soldier

To be fair I was referring to Brillo's posts more than yours but - being totally upfront here - I do have a habit of tarring with the same brush when it comes to a handful of 4 or 5 members. I think understandably. Try to understand. Be a TS sympathiser .

If you want to call me a nazi for pointing out that there are extremists on both sides, there are, that is your problem not mine. I justified nothing unlike Dezzy's attempted justification of leftist thugs in post 2.

[Toy Soldier]

Originally Posted by Brillopad

If you want to call me a nazi for pointing out that there are extremists on both sides, there are, that is your problem not mine.

I didn't call you a Nazi.