Home Menu

Site Navigation


Notices

Serious Debates & News Debate and discussion about political, moral, philosophical, celebrity and news topics.

Reply
 
Thread Tools Search this Thread Display Modes
Old 21-08-2017, 06:37 AM #1
Denver's Avatar
Denver Denver is offline
I Cant Breathe
 
Join Date: Aug 2013
Location: HomeTown
Posts: 57,035

Favourites (more):
BB2023: Tom
Strictly 2020: Bill Bailey


Denver Denver is offline
I Cant Breathe
Denver's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2013
Location: HomeTown
Posts: 57,035

Favourites (more):
BB2023: Tom
Strictly 2020: Bill Bailey


Default Internet trolls will now face prosecution

Quote:
Internet trolls will face prosecution for hate-filled online rants in the same way they would if they had abused people in the streets under new legal guidelines.

Hate crimes perpetrated on social media will be taken as seriously as ‘offline’ offences as part of a clampdown on unacceptable cyber behaviour, it will be announced today.

The Crown Prosecution Service said bullies will be treated with the ‘same robust and proactive approach used with offline offending’.

CPS policy statements have been updated to take account of the mounting number of cases sparked by abuse in cyber space.

Alison Saunders, the Director of Public Prosecutions, said: ‘Hate crime has a corrosive effect on our society and that is why it is a priority area for the CPS.

‘It can affect entire communities, forcing people to change their way of life and live in fear.’

She added: ‘These documents take account of the current breadth and context of offending to provide prosecutors with the best possible chance of achieving justice for victims.

‘They also let victims and witnesses know what they should expect from us.’

The guidance for prosecutors comes after MPs revealed how they suffered a horrific spate of anonymous personal abuse online during the election campaign.

Community groups monitoring anti-Semitic and Islamophobic abuse also report that a significant proportion of incidents involve the internet.

The revised documents cover different strands of hate crime - racist and religious; disability; and homophobic, biphobic and transphobic.

They say: ‘Hate crime can be perpetrated online or offline, or there can be a pattern of behaviour that includes both.

‘The internet and social media in particular have provided new platforms for offending behaviour.’

The CPS will also recognise children ‘may not appreciate the potential harm and seriousness of their communications’.

Prosecutors should also understand the changing nature of platforms and their policies for taking down material, while being alert to the need to identify ‘originators’ as well as ‘amplifiers or disseminators’, according to the documents.

The CPS emphasised that it has always considered each case on its individual merits and prosecutes offences, whether committed online or offline, where there is sufficient evidence and it is in the public interest.

Elsewhere, the policy documents acknowledge that victims of biphobic hate crime have different experiences and needs to those affected by homophobic and transphobic offences.

The CPS also said it recognises it has a responsibility to actively remove barriers to justice for disabled victims and witnesses.

There was a surge in reports following the EU referendum in June 2016, while figures released earlier this month show forces registered a spike around the terrorist attacks that hit the UK earlier this year.

In 2015/16 the CPS completed a record 15,442 hate crime prosecutions.

The conviction rate across all strands of hate crime increased from 82.9 per cent in 2014/15 to 83.2 pre cent in 2015/16.
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/arti...-approach.html
__________________

Spoiler:

[/CENTER]

Denver is offline   Reply With QuoteReply With Quote
Old 21-08-2017, 06:57 AM #2
Dominic's Avatar
Dominic Dominic is offline
hot tamale
 
Join Date: Aug 2013
Posts: 8,046

Favourites (more):
BBUSA22: Janelle
Survivor 40: Michele
Dominic Dominic is offline
hot tamale
Dominic's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2013
Posts: 8,046

Favourites (more):
BBUSA22: Janelle
Survivor 40: Michele
Default

This is ****ing tragic
__________________

Spoiler:



Last edited by Dominic; 21-08-2017 at 06:58 AM.
Dominic is offline   Reply With QuoteReply With Quote
Old 21-08-2017, 06:59 AM #3
Denver's Avatar
Denver Denver is offline
I Cant Breathe
 
Join Date: Aug 2013
Location: HomeTown
Posts: 57,035

Favourites (more):
BB2023: Tom
Strictly 2020: Bill Bailey


Denver Denver is offline
I Cant Breathe
Denver's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2013
Location: HomeTown
Posts: 57,035

Favourites (more):
BB2023: Tom
Strictly 2020: Bill Bailey


Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by Dominic View Post
This is ****ing tragic
How? you think people should be allowed to make death threats online and get away with it?
__________________

Spoiler:

[/CENTER]

Denver is offline   Reply With QuoteReply With Quote
Old 21-08-2017, 07:20 AM #4
JTM45 JTM45 is offline
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Jul 2009
Location: Usa
Posts: 9,881

Favourites (more):
CBB2024: Fern Britton
BB2023: Olivia
JTM45 JTM45 is offline
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Jul 2009
Location: Usa
Posts: 9,881

Favourites (more):
CBB2024: Fern Britton
BB2023: Olivia
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by Adam. View Post
How? you think people should be allowed to make death threats online and get away with it?
Sadly some people confuse 'freedom of speech' with freedom to make people's lives hell to the extent that they don't want to live any longer. Usually the same bunch who deny that there is really such a thing as 'hate speech', even if their words incite others to physically harm or even kill someone.

I would imagine it'll be difficult to enforce these new policies but it's a start at least and many of these kinda' people aren't the smartest so they probably will be easier to catch. Good thing too!

Last edited by JTM45; 21-08-2017 at 07:24 AM.
JTM45 is offline   Reply With QuoteReply With Quote
Old 21-08-2017, 07:32 AM #5
Toy Soldier Toy Soldier is offline
-
 
Join Date: Jul 2013
Posts: 30,350


Toy Soldier Toy Soldier is offline
-
 
Join Date: Jul 2013
Posts: 30,350


Default

poor LT
Toy Soldier is offline   Reply With QuoteReply With Quote
Old 21-08-2017, 07:56 AM #6
Liberty4eva's Avatar
Liberty4eva Liberty4eva is offline
Fighting the PC Culture
 
Join Date: Feb 2011
Location: USA
Posts: 1,473

Favourites (more):
CBB9: Karissa & Kristina Shannon
BB13 USA: Rachel
Liberty4eva Liberty4eva is offline
Fighting the PC Culture
Liberty4eva's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2011
Location: USA
Posts: 1,473

Favourites (more):
CBB9: Karissa & Kristina Shannon
BB13 USA: Rachel
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by Toy Soldier View Post
poor LT
Theoretically I shouldn't be worried. We still have a first amendment (and a second should things ever get really, really tyrannical). Bullying is morally wrong but if someone is getting bullied online and it bothers them they don't have to be online.


Last edited by Liberty4eva; 21-08-2017 at 08:20 AM.
Liberty4eva is offline   Reply With QuoteReply With Quote
Old 21-08-2017, 08:20 AM #7
Kizzy's Avatar
Kizzy Kizzy is offline
Likes cars that go boom
 
Join Date: Jan 2012
Posts: 41,755


Kizzy Kizzy is offline
Likes cars that go boom
Kizzy's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2012
Posts: 41,755


Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by Liberty4eva View Post
Theoretically I shouldn't be worried. We still have a first amendment (and a second should things ever get really, really tyrannical). Bullying is morally wrong but if someone is getting bullied online and it bothers them they don't have to be online.
So they should accept the abuse? Why, it wouldn't be acceptable to hound people in the street, with that fuzzy logic you could say they should stay indoors, why is it ok online?
__________________
Kizzy is offline   Reply With QuoteReply With Quote
Old 21-08-2017, 08:30 AM #8
LeatherTrumpet's Avatar
LeatherTrumpet LeatherTrumpet is offline
Right Flower
 
Join Date: Oct 2009
Posts: 94,216


LeatherTrumpet LeatherTrumpet is offline
Right Flower
LeatherTrumpet's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2009
Posts: 94,216


Default

Good luck police catching a internet cafe 14 year old in Thailand slagging off Charlotte Church
LeatherTrumpet is offline   Reply With QuoteReply With Quote
Old 21-08-2017, 08:37 AM #9
Underscore's Avatar
Underscore Underscore is offline
beyonce of waltham forest
 
Join Date: Jul 2017
Location: Yorkshire/London
Posts: 6,080

Favourites (more):
BB2023: Trish
BB19: Lewis F
Underscore Underscore is offline
beyonce of waltham forest
Underscore's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2017
Location: Yorkshire/London
Posts: 6,080

Favourites (more):
BB2023: Trish
BB19: Lewis F
Default

Good
__________________
Quote:
Originally Posted by Sullen Girl View Post
i hope we all die soon


Spoiler:



ST☆RS (TiBB's CBB): 6th/12

I'm a TiBB Member 4: 3rd/16 & Highest Placed All-Star (1st/8)
TiBB on Ice: 4th/15
ST☆RS (TiBB's CBB) 2: 3rd/17
TiBB OTT3: 2nd/13
Underscore is offline   Reply With QuoteReply With Quote
Old 21-08-2017, 08:43 AM #10
Liberty4eva's Avatar
Liberty4eva Liberty4eva is offline
Fighting the PC Culture
 
Join Date: Feb 2011
Location: USA
Posts: 1,473

Favourites (more):
CBB9: Karissa & Kristina Shannon
BB13 USA: Rachel
Liberty4eva Liberty4eva is offline
Fighting the PC Culture
Liberty4eva's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2011
Location: USA
Posts: 1,473

Favourites (more):
CBB9: Karissa & Kristina Shannon
BB13 USA: Rachel
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by Kizzy View Post
So they should accept the abuse? Why, it wouldn't be acceptable to hound people in the street, with that fuzzy logic you could say they should stay indoors, why is it ok online?
Being abused in person where the person can potentially be hit or threatened with being hit is totally different than being in your house talking to someone hundreds of miles away through media. Pretending they are the same is silly, Kizzy, and I really don't have to say more than that.
Liberty4eva is offline   Reply With QuoteReply With Quote
Old 21-08-2017, 08:44 AM #11
LeatherTrumpet's Avatar
LeatherTrumpet LeatherTrumpet is offline
Right Flower
 
Join Date: Oct 2009
Posts: 94,216


LeatherTrumpet LeatherTrumpet is offline
Right Flower
LeatherTrumpet's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2009
Posts: 94,216


Default

just ban twitter


problem solved
LeatherTrumpet is offline   Reply With QuoteReply With Quote
Old 21-08-2017, 08:45 AM #12
Underscore's Avatar
Underscore Underscore is offline
beyonce of waltham forest
 
Join Date: Jul 2017
Location: Yorkshire/London
Posts: 6,080

Favourites (more):
BB2023: Trish
BB19: Lewis F
Underscore Underscore is offline
beyonce of waltham forest
Underscore's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2017
Location: Yorkshire/London
Posts: 6,080

Favourites (more):
BB2023: Trish
BB19: Lewis F
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by LeatherTrumpet View Post
just ban twitter


problem solved
Twitter > Facebook ngl
__________________
Quote:
Originally Posted by Sullen Girl View Post
i hope we all die soon


Spoiler:



ST☆RS (TiBB's CBB): 6th/12

I'm a TiBB Member 4: 3rd/16 & Highest Placed All-Star (1st/8)
TiBB on Ice: 4th/15
ST☆RS (TiBB's CBB) 2: 3rd/17
TiBB OTT3: 2nd/13
Underscore is offline   Reply With QuoteReply With Quote
Old 21-08-2017, 08:58 AM #13
Kizzy's Avatar
Kizzy Kizzy is offline
Likes cars that go boom
 
Join Date: Jan 2012
Posts: 41,755


Kizzy Kizzy is offline
Likes cars that go boom
Kizzy's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2012
Posts: 41,755


Default

The only people who will be dead against this will be trolls, for everyone else especially if you have been a victim it will be great news.
__________________
Kizzy is offline   Reply With QuoteReply With Quote
Old 21-08-2017, 09:14 AM #14
LeatherTrumpet's Avatar
LeatherTrumpet LeatherTrumpet is offline
Right Flower
 
Join Date: Oct 2009
Posts: 94,216


LeatherTrumpet LeatherTrumpet is offline
Right Flower
LeatherTrumpet's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2009
Posts: 94,216


Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by Kizzy View Post
The only people who will be dead against this will be trolls, for everyone else especially if you have been a victim it will be great news.
Yes I would imagine the Police will be jumping with joy
LeatherTrumpet is offline   Reply With QuoteReply With Quote
Old 21-08-2017, 09:18 AM #15
Kizzy's Avatar
Kizzy Kizzy is offline
Likes cars that go boom
 
Join Date: Jan 2012
Posts: 41,755


Kizzy Kizzy is offline
Likes cars that go boom
Kizzy's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2012
Posts: 41,755


Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by LeatherTrumpet View Post
Yes I would imagine the Police will be jumping with joy
A crime is a crime, threats are taken seriously as they should be what's the issue?
__________________
Kizzy is offline   Reply With QuoteReply With Quote
Old 21-08-2017, 09:36 AM #16
LeatherTrumpet's Avatar
LeatherTrumpet LeatherTrumpet is offline
Right Flower
 
Join Date: Oct 2009
Posts: 94,216


LeatherTrumpet LeatherTrumpet is offline
Right Flower
LeatherTrumpet's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2009
Posts: 94,216


Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by Kizzy View Post
A crime is a crime, threats are taken seriously as they should be what's the issue?
well you often tell us that we dont have enough police

now they have to be looking at twitter etc 24/7?

They are not exactly very good at dealing with burglary
LeatherTrumpet is offline   Reply With QuoteReply With Quote
Old 21-08-2017, 09:44 AM #17
Kizzy's Avatar
Kizzy Kizzy is offline
Likes cars that go boom
 
Join Date: Jan 2012
Posts: 41,755


Kizzy Kizzy is offline
Likes cars that go boom
Kizzy's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2012
Posts: 41,755


Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by LeatherTrumpet View Post
well you often tell us that we dont have enough police

now they have to be looking at twitter etc 24/7?

They are not exactly very good at dealing with burglary
And that is true, the internet is an area which is exploited by predators , it has to be addressed.
__________________
Kizzy is offline   Reply With QuoteReply With Quote
Old 21-08-2017, 09:55 AM #18
Liberty4eva's Avatar
Liberty4eva Liberty4eva is offline
Fighting the PC Culture
 
Join Date: Feb 2011
Location: USA
Posts: 1,473

Favourites (more):
CBB9: Karissa & Kristina Shannon
BB13 USA: Rachel
Liberty4eva Liberty4eva is offline
Fighting the PC Culture
Liberty4eva's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2011
Location: USA
Posts: 1,473

Favourites (more):
CBB9: Karissa & Kristina Shannon
BB13 USA: Rachel
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by Kizzy View Post
The only people who will be dead against this will be trolls, for everyone else especially if you have been a victim it will be great news.
Once government gets the power to prosecute people for hurting other people's feelings, where is the limit to their power? It enhances government power to solve a problem that does not require government. If someone is "abused" online maybe the solution is for them to get a thicker skin than going to Big Brother for a solution.

Last edited by Liberty4eva; 21-08-2017 at 09:56 AM.
Liberty4eva is offline   Reply With QuoteReply With Quote
Old 21-08-2017, 09:59 AM #19
Denver's Avatar
Denver Denver is offline
I Cant Breathe
 
Join Date: Aug 2013
Location: HomeTown
Posts: 57,035

Favourites (more):
BB2023: Tom
Strictly 2020: Bill Bailey


Denver Denver is offline
I Cant Breathe
Denver's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2013
Location: HomeTown
Posts: 57,035

Favourites (more):
BB2023: Tom
Strictly 2020: Bill Bailey


Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by Liberty4eva View Post
Once government gets the power to prosecute people for hurting other people's feelings, where is the limit to their power? It enhances government power to solve a problem that does not require government. If someone is "abused" online maybe the solution is for them to get a thicker skin than going to Big Brother for a solution.
Lets take into account Katie Prices son Harvey.

Do you think that family deserve the tweets they get on a daily basis taking fun of his disabilities and going as far as saying he should be put down?
__________________

Spoiler:

[/CENTER]

Denver is offline   Reply With QuoteReply With Quote
Old 21-08-2017, 10:03 AM #20
Kizzy's Avatar
Kizzy Kizzy is offline
Likes cars that go boom
 
Join Date: Jan 2012
Posts: 41,755


Kizzy Kizzy is offline
Likes cars that go boom
Kizzy's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2012
Posts: 41,755


Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by Liberty4eva View Post
Being abused in person where the person can potentially be hit or threatened with being hit is totally different than being in your house talking to someone hundreds of miles away through media. Pretending they are the same is silly, Kizzy, and I really don't have to say more than that.
Then why are there harassment laws? You cannot threaten and/or intimidate people without it being taken seriously.

Who's to say they are 100s of miles away? as with most abusers it is as likely to be someone known to you.
__________________
Kizzy is offline   Reply With QuoteReply With Quote
Old 21-08-2017, 10:05 AM #21
Kizzy's Avatar
Kizzy Kizzy is offline
Likes cars that go boom
 
Join Date: Jan 2012
Posts: 41,755


Kizzy Kizzy is offline
Likes cars that go boom
Kizzy's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2012
Posts: 41,755


Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by Liberty4eva View Post
Once government gets the power to prosecute people for hurting other people's feelings, where is the limit to their power? It enhances government power to solve a problem that does not require government. If someone is "abused" online maybe the solution is for them to get a thicker skin than going to Big Brother for a solution.
Threats to kill are an issue whether online, by phone or in person, why is that so hard to understand?
__________________
Kizzy is offline   Reply With QuoteReply With Quote
Old 21-08-2017, 10:10 AM #22
Niamh.'s Avatar
Niamh. Niamh. is offline
I Love my brick
 
Join Date: Jun 2009
Location: Ireland-The peoples Republic of Cork!
Posts: 142,456

Favourites (more):
BB19: Cian
IAC2018: Rita Simons


Niamh. Niamh. is offline
I Love my brick
Niamh.'s Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2009
Location: Ireland-The peoples Republic of Cork!
Posts: 142,456

Favourites (more):
BB19: Cian
IAC2018: Rita Simons


Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by Kizzy View Post
So they should accept the abuse? Why, it wouldn't be acceptable to hound people in the street, with that fuzzy logic you could say they should stay indoors, why is it ok online?
Yeah or a kid gets bullied in school, then he should not go to school lol
__________________

Spoiler:

Quote:
Originally Posted by GiRTh View Post
You compare Jim Davidson to Nelson Mandela?
Quote:
Originally Posted by Jesus. View Post
I know, how stupid? He's more like Gandhi.

Quote:
Originally Posted by Isaiah 7:14 View Post



Katie Hopkins reveals epilepsy made her suicidal - and says she identifies as a MAN
Quote:
Originally Posted by Livia View Post
Just because she is a giant cock, doesn't make her a man.
Niamh. is offline   Reply With QuoteReply With Quote
Old 21-08-2017, 10:22 AM #23
LeatherTrumpet's Avatar
LeatherTrumpet LeatherTrumpet is offline
Right Flower
 
Join Date: Oct 2009
Posts: 94,216


LeatherTrumpet LeatherTrumpet is offline
Right Flower
LeatherTrumpet's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2009
Posts: 94,216


Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by Niamh. View Post
Yeah or a kid gets bullied in school, then he should not go to school lol
yes but even in that example bullying still is rife and happens at every school despite guidelines and laws as it is hard to prove
LeatherTrumpet is offline   Reply With QuoteReply With Quote
Old 21-08-2017, 10:23 AM #24
LeatherTrumpet's Avatar
LeatherTrumpet LeatherTrumpet is offline
Right Flower
 
Join Date: Oct 2009
Posts: 94,216


LeatherTrumpet LeatherTrumpet is offline
Right Flower
LeatherTrumpet's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2009
Posts: 94,216


Default

I think it will be a nightmare to police, not saying it should not be but it will be a nightmare
LeatherTrumpet is offline   Reply With QuoteReply With Quote
Old 21-08-2017, 10:29 AM #25
Denver's Avatar
Denver Denver is offline
I Cant Breathe
 
Join Date: Aug 2013
Location: HomeTown
Posts: 57,035

Favourites (more):
BB2023: Tom
Strictly 2020: Bill Bailey


Denver Denver is offline
I Cant Breathe
Denver's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2013
Location: HomeTown
Posts: 57,035

Favourites (more):
BB2023: Tom
Strictly 2020: Bill Bailey


Default

Incidents will only be taken further if reported with sufficient evidence
__________________

Spoiler:

[/CENTER]

Denver is offline   Reply With QuoteReply With Quote
Reply

Bookmark/share this topic

Tags
face, internet, prosecution, trolls


Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off

Forum Jump


All times are GMT. The time now is 06:05 PM.

Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.11
Copyright ©2000 - 2024, vBulletin Solutions Inc.
 

About Us ThisisBigBrother.com

"Big Brother and UK Television Forum. Est. 2001"

 

© 2023
no new posts