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Old 26-08-2017, 05:23 AM #1
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I don't get the disdain some people have for this series

I actually thoroughly enjoyed it, it had a good mix of drama, romance, and fun. Sarah, Paul, Jemma, Chad, and Brandi carried the show but they made it brilliant.

For me it ranks in my Top 6 of C5 CBB along with CBB13, CBB17, CBB9, CBB16, and CBB19.
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It's the mood of the times, collective insanity is gripping the world these days and all institutions are under attack. I looked at the comments section under a CBB post in the Daily Express yesterday and it was wall to wall BB hate from mainly mindless brainwashed trolls who have probably never even watched BB.

The BB concept, of free, uncensored, live speech sealed it's doom well over a decade ago. I know there's not much free speech or live feed in the show anymore, but just the suggestion of such a revolutionary programme fills our controllers, including TV execs, with fear.

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It's the mood of the times, collective insanity is gripping the world these days and all institutions are under attack. I looked at the comments section under a CBB post in the Daily Express yesterday and it was wall to wall BB hate from mainly mindless brainwashed trolls who have probably never even watched BB.

The BB concept, of free, uncensored, live speech sealed it's doom well over a decade ago. I know there's not much free speech or live feed anymore, but just the suggestion of such a revolutionary programme fills our controllers, including TV execs, with fear.
I think you have a point johne, although BB is not as unfiltered as it used to be, it still stands out amongst other reality shows for facilitating a genuine camaraderie and interactive experience between the subjects and the viewers. Most of the reality shows here in the US - everything is much more structured, contestants are more directly coached and manipulated by producers, and editing is more condensed. Unfortunately - that seems to be the case in the UK now as well now ever since the introduction of shows like The Only Way Is Essex. For a show like BBUK to still be on the air is a triumph, but it's a shame people are quickly to attack it over other shows on the air that are 10x more fake, rigged, vapid - all the things they claim BB are guilty of.
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I've enjoyed some episodes, but then others I felt like I was sat waiting for it to finish. Overall I think it's been a good series though nothing to shout about.

If it wasn't for Sarah, Paul and Jemma there'd be no talking points.
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It's underrated, or more specifically exaggeratedly disliked.
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It was a good series that should have lasted longer so people like Brandi and Marissa and Amelia and such had more time to shine in a house dominated by Sarah. Sarah being controversial and then winning it + how long it took for this series to find its footing probably put people off it
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I thought it was a good series - WHAT I SAW OF IT.

I quit watching about 7 days from the final. What I hated was all the interesting people who made the headlines were being evicted leaving bores in there. The fact I have found out Amelia came second in the final, underlines what a crap last 2 weeks it was.

And I also was told by a friend that C5 actually brought back Paul, Brandi, Marissa, Jordan, etc, to help spice up the show again, after they'd been evicted because CBB bosses knew the best ones had been kicked out and the show was just dross with them not in it.

It was obvious Sarah was gonna win and love he or dislike her, she was a better winner than any of the rest. Least she did things. Said things. Was active on the show.

So good luck to her.
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I thought it was a good series - WHAT I SAW OF IT.

I quit watching about 7 days from the final. What I hated was all the interesting people who made the headlines were being evicted leaving bores in there. The fact I have found out Amelia came second in the final, underlines what a crap last 2 weeks it was.

And I also was told by a friend that C5 actually brought back Paul, Brandi, Marissa, Jordan, etc, to help spice up the show again, after they'd been evicted because CBB bosses knew the best ones had been kicked out and the show was just dross with them not in it.

It was obvious Sarah was gonna win and love he or dislike her, she was a better winner than any of the rest. Least she did things. Said things. Was active on the show.

So good luck to her.
Yeah the Paul and Brandi eviction along with people like Shaun dodging eviction every week and instead having the interesting ones put up sucked. Amelia did so well because of her day before the final symapthy edit I believe. The episode before the final where this all happens is pretty good and it's the only one I'd recommend out of the ones you haven't watched
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It wasn't perfect but it was still miles ahead of 1, 2, 5, 6, 7, 8, 11, and 18. When people keep calling it the "Worst CBB EVER!!!" they may want to think about other options in front of them.
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I don't get the disdain some people have for this series

I actually thoroughly enjoyed it, it had a good mix of drama, romance, and fun. Sarah, Paul, Jemma, Chad, and Brandi carried the show but they made it brilliant.

For me it ranks in my Top 6 of C5 CBB along with CBB13, CBB17, CBB9, CBB16, and CBB19.

I totally agree...it had it all.
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It had everything and was more of an enjoyable series compared to the usual drama fuelled ones with Perez, Bear, Farrah over ruling etc

It's up in my top 5 along with 17, 15, 13, 19 on C5. My favourite summer series (or possibly on par with 16)
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Yeah the Paul and Brandi eviction along with people like Shaun dodging eviction every week and instead having the interesting ones put up sucked. Amelia did so well because of her day before the final symapthy edit I believe. The episode before the final where this all happens is pretty good and it's the only one I'd recommend out of the ones you haven't watched
Paul so deserved to be in the final.

I wasn't his greatest fan but I have to admit he set that show alight, made headlines and was just a great housemate.

The fact he lost out in a vote to Helen and Derek was just too much for me. Brandi too. Not a great fan but she was a good housemate.
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Paul so deserved to be in the final.

I wasn't his greatest fan but I have to admit he set that show alight, made headlines and was just a great housemate.

The fact he lost out in a vote to Helen and Derek was just too much for me. Brandi too. Not a great fan but she was a good housemate.
. Plus he was just so unintentionally hilarious too; "She's goating me and goating me and goating me." "Just because it's the shizzle, doesn't mean it's the dizzle."
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Paul so deserved to be in the final.

I wasn't his greatest fan but I have to admit he set that show alight, made headlines and was just a great housemate.

The fact he lost out in a vote to Helen and Derek was just too much for me. Brandi too. Not a great fan but she was a good housemate.
Paul helped in making this series and you could tell he genuinely enjoyed cbb ans the people there despite how often he got into arguments lol I prob have bias towards Brandi because I follow her outside of this show but she was involved in quite a few great moments, including her and Jemma writing snakes on the walls and mirrors in the bathroom and chanting Danan to the jaws theme, her random disputes with Sandi that seemed to come out of nowhere. Both Brandi and Paul were great housemates yet the public don't have taste and decided to keep in the conman and the women that doesn't look like she knows where she is
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Paul helped in making this series and you could tell he genuinely enjoyed cbb ans the people there despite how often he got into arguments lol I prob have bias towards Brandi because I follow her outside of this show but she was involved in quite a few great moments, including her and Jemma writing snakes on the walls and mirrors in the bathroom and chanting Danan to the jaws theme, her random disputes with Sandi that seemed to come out of nowhere. Both Brandi and Paul were great housemates yet the public don't have taste and decided to keep in the conman and the women that doesn't look like she knows where she is
Tbf the lines WERE only open for around 20 minutes that night. I'm sure if they kept them open a day longer Paul would've almost certainly survived over Derek. Brandi never really had a chance of staying once she was up though.
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I agree.

When most people were saying they weren't enjoying this series, I was. It definitely lost steam towards the end; I really didn't care about the Amelia/Sam situation (though, I am happy she ended up beating him last night).

I think the reason most people found this series boring was because there was no clear antagonist or pivotal feuds, but I found that quite refreshing.
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One thing that really irked me about this series was the people who were 'big characters' (Sarah, Chad, Jemma, Paul, Sam) were REALLY big but it made Helen AND Derek AND Shaun (the most under-the-radar CBB housemate to last long of all time), to ALL exist and ALL of them making it to the end/near-end, which was especially annoying whilst Paul, Brandi, and even though i'm not a big fan of her Sandi as well.
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Tbf the lines WERE only open for around 20 minutes that night. I'm sure if they kept them open a day longer Paul would've almost certainly survived over Derek. Brandi never really had a chance of staying once she was up though.
Yh unfort ****ty decision by the producers to end a great task
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Some episodes were good, the majority were very average
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It's the mood of the times, collective insanity is gripping the world these days and all institutions are under attack. I looked at the comments section under a CBB post in the Daily Express yesterday and it was wall to wall BB hate from mainly mindless brainwashed trolls who have probably never even watched BB.

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IT was a great series...it went flat when Paul and Brandi left and we were left with people like Derek Helen Shaun and even Amelia...they offered nothing.
The rest of the cast were great entertainers and there was plenty of arguements and they gave us much to talk about...
I don't quite know what people want or expect these days???
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I really enjoyed it, and have enjoyed all the series for different reasons. and miss them when they finish.
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Definitely A Top 5 series, coming after 4, 13, 17 & 19
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For me it died when Paul and Brandi left and then dragged on to the final with not that many talking points in between.
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I keep comparing it to January which was brilliant. It wasnt terrible this summers cbb but it was boring at times. There is only so many times watching someone get pissed and kick off/act like a nutter is entertaining before it becomes boring.
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