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joeysteele · 09-09-2017, 05:11 PM

Time he slid off into the so called retirement he kept saying he intended to.
Otherwise he is going to look a real joke as his party is all but we'll and truly done with now.

Brillopad · 09-09-2017, 05:26 PM

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Time he slid off into the so called retirement he kept saying he intended to.
Otherwise he is going to look a real joke as his party is all but we'll and truly done with now.

I seem to remember we were all saying that about Labour not so long ago. Things can change very quickly.

I could see that the constant whining from the remoaners and their contant attempts to change/overturn Brexit could be a trigger for a resurgence for support for UKIP, especially with Corbyn's u-turn. It happened before and it could happen again.

joeysteele · 09-09-2017, 06:40 PM

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I seem to remember we were all saying that about Labour not so long ago. Things can change very quickly.

I could see that the constant whining from the remoaners and their contant attempts to change/overturn Brexit could be a trigger for a resurgence for support for UKIP, especially with Corbyn's u-turn. It happened before and it could happen again.

Mostly Con supporters were saying that about Labour.
I never ascribed to such rubbish.

Just as I would never have looked at the Con party being finished when it plummeted to just over 160 seats in 1997 to 2004.

They are the 2 main parties and for as long as the UK has the electoral system it has at present,one fact will likely always remain,only the Conservative or Labour party can really lead a govt.

UKIP however had a rise however failed to get any real success which they ought to have done in the 2010 and 2015 elections.
Really badly failing on both.

That, to me anyway now signals little as to positives for UKIP.

Oliver_W · 09-09-2017, 06:44 PM

The best UKIP could hope for would be to spin a yarn about making sure they have some presence in parliament to keep things ticking along...

Kizzy · 09-09-2017, 07:47 PM

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Like Corbyn addressed IRA rallies!

Calling for peace...What does farage ever want other than anarchy? The two are not even nearly comparable :/

Oliver_W · 10-09-2017, 09:46 AM

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Calling for peace...What does farage ever want other than anarchy? The two are not even nearly comparable :/

When has he ever wanted anarchy? How is self governance an anarchist proposal?

Brillopad · 11-09-2017, 08:22 PM

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When has he ever wanted anarchy? How is self governance an anarchist proposal?

Anarchy The word of the left. From my experience the left are the True anarchists.

JTM45 · 12-09-2017, 03:18 AM

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Anarchy The word of the left.

Anarchy has nothing to do with the ''left''.

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From my experience the left are the True anarchists.

Yet again you display your lack of knowledge and general ignorance. Par for the course really.

As i understood it (and i'm not in any way speaking for Kizzy nor would i . Merely stating how it came across to me) i believe Kizzy was probably referring to Farage seeking to creating chaos to disrupt what others are trying to do due to his complete lack of any real policies or anything constructive to bring to the table. He's never achieved anything in his entire 'career' other than making an arse of himself repeatedly.

Brillopad · 12-09-2017, 04:20 AM

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Anarchy has nothing to do with the ''left''.

Yet again you display your lack of knowledge and general ignorance. Par for the course really.

As i understood it (and i'm not in any way speaking for Kizzy nor would i . Merely stating how it came across to me) i believe Kizzy was probably referring to Farage seeking to creating chaos to disrupt what others are trying to do due to his complete lack of any real policies or anything constructive to bring to the table. He's never achieved anything in his entire 'career' other than making an arse of himself repeatedly.

Anarchy has everything to do with socialism and the left.

Yet again you display a lack of general ignorance and bias.

joeysteele · 12-09-2017, 09:49 AM

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Anarchy has nothing to do with the ''left''.

Yet again you display your lack of knowledge and general ignorance. Par for the course really.

As i understood it (and i'm not in any way speaking for Kizzy nor would i . Merely stating how it came across to me) i believe Kizzy was probably referring to Farage seeking to creating chaos to disrupt what others are trying to do due to his complete lack of any real policies or anything constructive to bring to the table. He's never achieved anything in his entire 'career' other than making an arse of himself repeatedly.

Well said again from you.
Nothing to add to what you've said from me at all

It seems too to some,the left are to blame for everything in govt or not.

Then you are the one unbelievably getting accused of bias.
Honestly it is beyond belief.

jaxie · 12-09-2017, 10:33 AM

I think it can be said that UKIP was a protest vote for those disenchanted with the main parties pro EU stance. Now the referendum vote has happened they aren't really relevant as a political party and they lack direction without Farage.

One thing you can say about him is he had very good instincts about the mood of the voting public, much better instincts than Labour or Tory leading figures.

Sorry to interrupt all the aggression, feel free to continue.

Oliver_W · 12-09-2017, 10:55 AM

Farage does have a certain charisma, something lacking among party leader these days.

arista · 12-09-2017, 12:12 PM

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Farage does have a certain charisma, something lacking among party leader these days.

Yes O. W.
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Kizzy · 12-09-2017, 01:05 PM

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Anarchy has everything to do with socialism and the left.

Yet again you display a lack of general ignorance and bias.

Left wing anarchy amounts to little more than civil disobedience and media bias... We are talking extreme right wing fascistic standpoints here, if you cannot separate the two in your mind then that for me smacks of more than just ignorance but a willful disregard for historical fact and social history.

DemolitionRed · 12-09-2017, 01:18 PM

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Anarchy has nothing to do with the ''left''.

Yet again you display your lack of knowledge and general ignorance. Par for the course really.

As i understood it (and i'm not in any way speaking for Kizzy nor would i . Merely stating how it came across to me) i believe Kizzy was probably referring to Farage seeking to creating chaos to disrupt what others are trying to do due to his complete lack of any real policies or anything constructive to bring to the table. He's never achieved anything in his entire 'career' other than making an arse of himself repeatedly.

There is so much truth in that last paragraph. Farage uses the strategy of distraction to gain popularity. His policies are nonsense but he's a clever man when it comes to crowd pleasing because he can pull public attention away from important issues and flood that distraction with insignificant information. The right wing tabloids supply's the problems and Farage steps in and offers solutions.

DemolitionRed · 12-09-2017, 01:29 PM

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Originally Posted by Brillopad

Anarchy has everything to do with socialism and the left.

Yet again you display a lack of general ignorance and bias.

You should listen to this before you throw around comments about people on here being ignorant.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yccBBzSHFAM

Kizzy · 12-09-2017, 02:01 PM

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Originally Posted by JTM45

Anarchy has nothing to do with the ''left''.

Yet again you display your lack of knowledge and general ignorance. Par for the course really.

As i understood it (and i'm not in any way speaking for Kizzy nor would i . Merely stating how it came across to me) i believe Kizzy was probably referring to Farage seeking to creating chaos to disrupt what others are trying to do due to his complete lack of any real policies or anything constructive to bring to the table. He's never achieved anything in his entire 'career' other than making an arse of himself repeatedly.

Bingo! He is little more than a rabble rouser... nothing he suggests has any basis in reality resulting in any workable policies, they are simply the ravings of a jumped up used car salesman.
This aging yuppie is hankering after the loadsamoney yesteryear when it was 12p a pint and you could say what the hell you liked to the 'coloureds'!