[Josy]

Do people get too easily offended about things these days? is pc attitude going too far?

I think it is in some cases, like sweets having to be taken from shelves for having a supposedly offensive name for example, I mean does something so minor even really matter in the bigger picture of life

Although I do think the internet has a lot to do with it also giving people that like to moan about the silliest trivial things a place to vent, it's like the Ofcom brigade lifting the phone and moaning about silly stuff on BB only on a bigger scale IMO

Opinions?

[Shaun]

Originally Posted by Josy

like sweets having to be taken from shelves for having a supposedly offensive name for example

not really on-topic but what example was this? I haven't heard anything like that

[Niamh.]

Originally Posted by Shaun

not really on-topic but what example was this? I haven't heard anything like that

This is exactly what i wanted to know as well

[Josy]

Originally Posted by Shaun

not really on-topic but what example was this? I haven't heard anything like that

The pound shop were selling sweets called 'nutter' (iirc it was the pound shop) anyway some of the stores had to remove them from the shelves due to people complaining it was offensive to people with a mental illness

[Shaun]

Originally Posted by Josy

The pound shop were selling sweets called 'nutter' (iirc it was the pound shop) anyway some of the stores had to remove them from the shelves due to people complaining it was offensive to people with a mental illness

Aaaaah right I see, yeah that is ridiculous.

[Brillopad]

Originally Posted by Josy

Do people get too easily offended about things these days? is pc attitude going too far?

I think it is in some cases, like sweets having to be taken from shelves for having a supposedly offensive name for example, I mean does something so minor even really matter in the bigger picture of life

Although I do think the internet has a lot to do with it also giving people that like to moan about the silliest trivial things a place to vent, it's like the Ofcom brigade lifting the phone and moaning about silly stuff on BB only on a bigger scale IMO

Opinions?

Undoubtedly in my opinion. Doing so creates more problems than it solves and creates hostility. It also undervalues real issues and real isms. Pointless childish nonsense.

[DemolitionRed]

I think some of its become ridiculous. There are so many nursery rhymes that have been taken off the bookshelf. Even Thomas the Tank Engine had to be modified!

I did see a someone selling 'slut puppies' in Greece... that made my day.

[Toy Soldier]

Yes, but as with anything, you get extremists at both ends. People see that it goes too far and find that ridiculous, and their answer is that we shouldn't bother considering these things at all, that everyone should just do whatever they want, that anyone disliking it is "ridiculous" and that ANY suggestion that people consider what they say before they say it is "PC gone mad" (usually with the caveat that is its an issue that's relevant to them personally, then it IS suddenly important).

As with most things in life, the answer lies somewhere in the middle. It can go too far, but if you go too far back the other way, then it won't go far enough and Poundland will be stocking liquorice sweets called "Li'l N*****s" and we'll have Auschwitz themed amusement park rides.

Though I honest to God wouldn't be surprised if some people would be fine with that. "It's good to remember the bad parts of history!"

[Amy Jade]

Some people are absoloutely pathetic when it comes to complaining. Every year during BB we will see a report that Ofcom were inundated with people who were offended by the show, such as last season when Chanelle was talking to Isabelle about sex. There were warnings before it, infact there were warnings during breaks and at the start yet people continued to watch - I can understand not liking it or being disgusted but why complain? Why watch actually? The show has tackled much worse, it's viewers know what it's about.

As for the 'Nutter' chocolate bar, that is so silly. I would just ban those complaining from the shop.

[Vicky.]

Some clearly go looking for offense. These people do seem to be larger in number by the day tbh.

As I just said in another thread...the relentless cries about microagressions and safe spaces...well are usually just attention seeking bollocks.

At the same time, some people seem to think that its their god given right to cause as much offense as possible and then cry about others being more sensitive. These people also seem to be growing in number

The nutters example you give is just silly. And a clear case of people just looking for reasons to take offense. Probably for attention or to prove to the world how 'right on' they personally are Look at me, I find this offensive ON BEHALF of the people it may offend, aren't I great. Silly, but fairly common.

[Kazanne]

Originally Posted by Josy

The pound shop were selling sweets called 'nutter' (iirc it was the pound shop) anyway some of the stores had to remove them from the shelves due to people complaining it was offensive to people with a mental illness

I suppose 'Black jacks' are off the menu aswell then ,too many snowflakes who love to moan about anything and everything,it's crazy, if something is black it's black,if something is white it's white and if something is nutty,it's nutty, all, this PC stuff is a load of old bollox imo.it's gone way too far.

[Shaun]

Originally Posted by Kazanne

I suppose 'Black jacks' are off the menu aswell then ,too many snowflakes

I wish they'd bring those back (sorry Josy, this is now a thread about sweets and chocolate).

[Toy Soldier]

Originally Posted by Amy Jade

Some people are absoloutely pathetic when it comes to complaining. Every year during BB we will see a report that Ofcom were inundated with people who were offended by the show, such as last season when Chanelle was talking to Isabelle about sex. There were warnings before it, infact there were warnings during breaks and at the start yet people continued to watch - I can understand not liking it or being disgusted but why complain? Why watch actually? The show has tackled much worse, it's viewers know what it's about.

As for the 'Nutter' chocolate bar, that is so silly. I would just ban those complaining from the shop.

I do think that entertainment (TV, films, games etc.) should be a different matter though... There should always be a place for satire, that's important, and a place for honesty in reality TV (though most of it is just trash now tbf) and in documentaries.

However I think people need to realise that, to use an example, Basil Fawlty frog marching around Fawlty Towers doing a Hitler salute is very different from Bob doing it round the pub. The South Park kids calling their black friend "Token" is very different from kids in a mostly white school calling the only black kid Token in reality (even as a joke), etc.

I think people also need to remember that it's different when you know people and are in private. Id never come out with half of what I'd say in front of my wife, or close friends, out loud in public and there's a perfectly good reason for that.

A good example of that was Emily from BB, who assumed that because it was OK for her to call her close black Uni friends "N***a" it would be fine to a relative stranger on national TV. It's not... It's different. Some common sense needs to be applied.

[Kizzy]

Of all people to start a 'pc gone mad' thread I wasn't expecting it to be you, I'm not sure what constitutes too far as much as I don't understand what 'pc' actually means, I have never had what I would consider a satisfactory answer to any request for a definition.

If people voice a concern, even in relation to something which to you may appear quite trivial don't mock it or dismiss it as unimportant because you can't personally relate.
That's how I feel 'PC' is encompassed, all things that personally you are confused by or ignorant of.

If there is offence caused accept that, it isn't a crime. Inventing blanket terms to render views as unnecessary isn't the way to go imo.

[Jordan.]

Yes I can't stand it, especially people who act offended on behalf of others

[Kizzy]

Originally Posted by Jordan.

Yes I can't stand it, especially people who act offended on behalf of others

That used to be called being empathic... I miss empathy it was great.

[Jordan.]

Originally Posted by Kizzy

That used to be called being empathic... I miss empathy it was great.

I guess some people just don't need to be patronised by others empathy.

[Kizzy]

Originally Posted by Jordan.

I guess some people just don't need to be patronised by others empathy.

So you are offended by other people being offended... I pity you.

[Jordan.]

Originally Posted by Kizzy

So you are offended by other people being offended... I pity you.

Screaming at it only taking two posts before you start throwing insults, it must be sad being this angry at life </3

[Kizzy]

Originally Posted by Jordan.

Screaming at it only taking two posts before you start throwing insults, it must be sad being this angry at life </3

Where is the insult? That is essentially what you said ... people being offended on behalf of others you find patronising, therefore it offends your sensibilities clearly.

I do feel for you that you don't understand how that reads to other people, I'm not angry just disappointed.

[thesheriff443]

Its as much about who will be offended or who someone might think will be offended than what's being said.
They selling a new drink called, pussy

[Jordan.]

Originally Posted by Kizzy

Where is the insult? That is essentially what you said ... people being offended on behalf of others you find patronising, therefore it offends your sensibilities clearly.

I do feel for you that you don't understand how that reads to other people, I'm not angry just disappointed.

Nowhere did I say I am offended I merely referred to it as being annoying and you started getting up in arms. You've just set a perfect example of the type of person that this thread is referring to so thank you for being such a cliche.

[Withano]

Would depend on each individual circumstance. A lot of people try and validate their dickheady opinions with "pc gone mad, you're the problem, not me" but there are occasions where political correctness gets OTT. I think most people have a very similar understanding of what is and isn't acceptable. The super-pc people and the people who go out of their way to not be pc aren't really taken that seriously

[Ashley.]

I do believe it would be easier for all of us if we weren't to get offended by, what I would say are trivial matters. But I agree, in this day and age there's always going to be a group of people who take offense at these things, whether it be a brand name, a fancy-dress costume... I also believe there's quite a large barrier now on what we can and can't say, sometimes because it offends people, and more-so because we think it might offend people. This "PC attitude" (although I hate that phrase... can we change it?) has definitely altered our choices, more than anything.

But then I think nowadays it's quite difficult to establish a boundary between what is offensive and what isn't. I'm quite happy for people to take offense at racism, sexism because these are wide problems in society but at the same time, I'd be a hypocrite to suggest that someone is "in the wrong" for taking offense at something that they perceive to be racist, or sexist, even if I do find it trivial. Like I said, different groups take offense at different things as trivial as they may seem.

I've gone off on a bit of a tangent but my point is basically that, offense is such a grey area these days that nobody can really say that something is or isn't offensive. And I do think that's a problem.

[Kizzy]

Originally Posted by Jordan.

Nowhere did I say I am offended I merely referred to it as being annoying and you started getting up in arms. You've just set a perfect example of the type of person that this thread is referring to so thank you for being such a cliche.

You're the one getting up in arms on behalf of others though, can you see how this comes across as a lack of self awareness?
What makes your annoyance/offence towards the person expressing offence any different? Do you feel yours to be any more valid and justified because it's not under the banner you class as 'pc'?