[Denver]

Originally Posted by LeatherTrumpet

rubbish. Its YOUR responsibility to get proper sleep not theirs ffs

They over work me and when i spoke to the manger i was ignored but i wouldnt expect you to understand as you love slavery and torture

[Livia]

Originally Posted by Adam.

Say im entitled to 5 weeks paid sick leave a year

If you have a doctor's note and you've let them know in plenty of time (whatever your contract says about notification of sickness), and you're entitled to paid sick leave, I find it hard to believe they'd sack you. But like I said, if you've not worked there for two years you can't claim unfair dismissal if they did.

[Denver]

My doctor has said im an accident waiting to happen so it doesnt just affect me but everyone i work with

[Denver]

Originally Posted by Livia

If you have a doctor's note and you've let them know in plenty of time (whatever your contract says about notification of sickness), and you're entitled to paid sick leave, I find it hard to believe they'd sack you. But like I said, if you've not worked there for two years you can't claim unfair dismissal if they did.

But i could have a case against terrible working conditions

[Livia]

Originally Posted by Adam.

But i could have a case against terrible working conditions

Not if you've not been there two years.

[Vicky.]

Gotta be honest, your replies in here make it look like you are just wanting them to sue them for something tbh

[Denver]

Originally Posted by Livia

Not if you've not been there two years.

What about the fact my contract says im meant to work only 30 hours but they make me work 43 hours?

[DemolitionRed]

Originally Posted by Cherie

You need everything in writing, its you word against theirs at the moment, if you have passed your probationary period then I would say you can't be sacked though as others have said if it is in the contract that you work at the discretion of your manager or something they can let you go I guess, citizens advice is the place to take this

This^
Have you finished your probationary period? if not, they can have a probationary meeting and say your not suitable for the job they employed you to do.

Does it state in your contract that you are expected to do a couple of nights a fortnight? If it does, they can't insist you to do more. If you have done nights up until now but you are now finding that nights are making you ill, that's proof enough that your contract of work is making you ill. They do have a legal obligation to look after your health and should attempt to work around the problem with you but if your on probation, they likely aren't going to do that and like Livia and Vicky said, they can sack you without reason for up to two years.

Are you in a union? if so, this is a job for them to sort out for you. If your not in a union then log and date everything, from the conversations you have with your manager, the dates and appointments with your doctor and so on.

What sort of work is it if you don't mind me asking?

[Denver]

Originally Posted by Vicky.

Gotta be honest, your replies in here make it look like you are just wanting them to sue them for something tbh

Tbh i really like my job and the people i work with but things need to change because its asking its toll on me

[DemolitionRed]

Originally Posted by Adam.

What about the fact my contract says im meant to work only 30 hours but they make me work 43 hours?

Nobody can make you work longer than your contracted hours. You simply say 'no'. Lots of people work longer than their contracted hours but its their choice. You can't say they make you because they can't.

[Denver]

Originally Posted by DemolitionRed

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Have you finished your probationary period? if not, they can have a probationary meeting and say your not suitable for the job they employed you to do.

Does it state in your contract that you are expected to do a couple of nights a fortnight? If it does, they can't insist you to do more. If you have done nights up until now but you are now finding that nights are making you ill, that's proof enough that your contract of work is making you ill. They do have a legal obligation to look after your health and should attempt to work around the problem with you but if your on probation, they likely aren't going to do that and like Livia and Vicky said, they can sack you without reason for up to two years.

Are you in a union? if so, this is a job for them to sort out for you. If your not in a union then log and date everything, from the conversations you have with your manager, the dates and appointments with your doctor and so on.

What sort of work is it if you don't mind me asking?

I ave finishe probation i was told i had passed my probation in September

[Denver]

Originally Posted by DemolitionRed

Nobody can make you work longer than your contracted hours. You simply say 'no'. Lots of people work longer than their contracted hours but its their choice. You can't say they make you because they can't.

they schedule me for that many hours and i cant just not turn in

[Livia]

Originally Posted by Adam.

What about the fact my contract says im meant to work only 30 hours but they make me work 43 hours?

I suspect they've used the word "flexible" in connection with your working hours and also included the term "and other duties".

[DemolitionRed]

And are they waking nights or sleep-overs?

[Denver]

Originally Posted by DemolitionRed

And are they waking nights or sleep-overs?

Im awake all night

[Livia]

Lots of people do night work you know, Adam

[DemolitionRed]

Originally Posted by Adam.

they schedule me for that many hours and i cant just not turn in

No but presumably you get your rota a couple of weeks or a month before hand? You need to have a conversation with your manager.

[Denver]

Originally Posted by Livia

Lots of people do night work you know, Adam

But human bodies work in different ways

[Vicky.]

Originally Posted by Adam.

they schedule me for that many hours and i cant just not turn in

You can. Give them as much notice as possible just to be nice. But don't turn up just because they put you down for stuff you aren't contracted for, if you don't want to do extra, and especially if the extra is making you ill. I am certain someone else working there would be grateful for the extra hours..given the state of things today. Its near impossible to pick up extra hours for most people.

[Livia]

Originally Posted by Adam.

But human bodies work in different ways

Sounds like this isn't the job for you anyway.

[Denver]

Originally Posted by DemolitionRed

No but presumably you get your rota a couple of weeks or a month before hand? You need to have a conversation with your manager.

I get it a week before and ive spoke to him and all i get back is things will change soon bare with me and its been 3 months now

[Denver]

Originally Posted by Livia

Sounds like this isn't the job for you anyway.

Well its the perfect job when im doing days/lates.

You cant expect people to be ok putting there body through hell and making themselves ill

[DemolitionRed]

Originally Posted by Livia

Lots of people do night work you know, Adam

I can't do nights. At one point in time I had to but it nearly killed me, especially when the shifts were one night on and one night off. I felt so spaced out and just couldn't adjust my body clock accordingly.

I have friends who have done nights for years and they get by on about 5 hours sleep a day. Night shifts are just more suited to some people.

[Vicky.]

It might be worth looking for another job. Even if you enjoy this one. It does not sound like you are compatible with the team tbh They want you to work nights, you don't want to. You say working conditions are awful. they put you down for hours you don't want. You seem to not have a good working relationship with managers if you think that you HAVE to cover extra hours rather than just speaking to them about it,...yeah...not working

[Tom4784]

'Flexible' only goes so far. Thirteen hours over contract is beyond the realms of 'flexible'

Give them warning and try to compromise, if nights are a problem then offer to work extra hours during the day instead.